Further Follicept civil conversation

[StayThick]

So I was advised to wash it off which I did. The area doesn't look like it experienced an allergic reaction just because I checked in bright lighting after leaving the scalp alone from rubbing and its not red at all. It just literally caused my hair to start coming out but only in the crown area where there is obviously still hair, but none in the hairline area which is more or less extremely thin/bald. That's the confusing part.

Don't know what to make of this. I'll consider one more application on Monday, but this might be a short trial. Sorry guys, I'm just alarmed by what occurred.

[serenemoon]

That really sucks. I am so sorry. It sounds like an allergic reaction to me...

[follicept]

Update:I am now a few hours removed from my second dose of Follicept's treatment and I'm very, very concerned. My crown area hours after my 2nd application started produce the dreaded "itch" and it felt slightly inflamed.

I rubbed the area and I can officially say I'm shedding hair like I have never seen before. Small clumps were coming out as I rubbed slightly vigorously over the area of itch. I don't know what to make of this and I'm considering stopping due to the volume of loss already even after 2 doses!

This sucks. I've never seen this much fall in such a short period nor have I experienced a shed like this ever! I emailed Devon and I'm debating on what to do. Wanted to share.

Really sorry to hear that! Dr. Hsu is on the phone with StayThick now. Sounds like an allergic reaction to the components. We haven't had any other subjects report any adverse events at all. Some might suggest that it could mean the treatment is working, but not sure if he should continue if it is an allergic reaction.

[Keki]

Very strange i don't think they have some sort of aggressive ingredients in their formulation, try to put a little of follicept on your arms and scratch a little like an allergy test

[StayThick]

Update:I am now a few hours removed from my second dose of Follicept's treatment and I'm very, very concerned. My crown area hours after my 2nd application started produce the dreaded "itch" and it felt slightly inflamed.

I rubbed the area and I can officially say I'm shedding hair like I have never seen before. Small clumps were coming out as I rubbed slightly vigorously over the area of itch. I don't know what to make of this and I'm considering stopping due to the volume of loss already even after 2 doses!

This sucks. I've never seen this much fall in such a short period nor have I experienced a shed like this ever! I emailed Devon and I'm debating on what to do. Wanted to share.

[serenemoon]

Good luck StayThick!

[Nhc]

I'll wait for good feed back.

[just2hairs]

Thanks and good luck, Staythick! It's good to see a senior member doing something productive, and not just come on here to be almighty and beating their chest.

[luca10]

Good luck!!

[noisette]

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Wish me luck.

Good luck bro.

[Dimoxynil]

Good luck mate. All the best with it

[Sogeking]

I always welcome testing potential treatments. Have to say I am sceptical about this working but I definitely want it to work. I hope you get regrowth StayThick. And I hope you'll keep us posted.

[StayThick]

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For those that do not know, I was given the opportunity by Devon and Dr. Hsu @ Follicept to meet with them, pick their brain, find out more about the company, their motives, and ultimately be a part of the current friends and family trial they have going on at the moment. I didn't think Devon would take me up on my initial offer on here to want in on the trial and for the purposes of tracking my experience and findings on this forum, but he did. Considering the majority backlash he has received here, he did relay the offer and I took him on it. I hope it's helpful for the community since I live in FL and have been member for a few years now. If anybody wants to even question me, point their finger and say I work for Follicept or some other lunacy, challenge my integrity, or any of the other nonsense I have seen day in and day out on this forum for years then I will say right now....go bleep yourself and simply don't follow the thread.

About my experience, my experience was a positive one. I got a first hand glance at their operation and had the luxury of meeting with Dr. Hsu himself at his home to have an open dialogue regarding this potential hair loss treatment. I can say this, Dr. Hsu is a very intelligent dude and he explained the science behind this treatment and his strong belief in his proprietary delivery vehicle, which he believes is key to all this obviously.

I do not know if this will work. My honest opinion? Devon and Dr. Hsu do not know if this will work 100%, but what I do know is that Dr. Hsu believes in this enough to attempt a small, quick trial to gather any information he can from the individuals trialing it. They wasted no time guys. They wanted to see if this has potential right now on humans or not versus having to wait for funding, etc. to start to a proper trial. I have no problem being a guinea pig for something I believe is safe. I just don't. It's that simple.

The attached picture is the 12-gel vials I have for the month. I was told to apply each on M-W-F for 4 straight weeks and then wait. Wait to see if the effects (if any) continue, get worse, or stay stagnate. That's the interesting part. The team doesn't know what to expect after this time period, but Dr. Hsu has a theory and wants to see the effects after treatment. BTW- I am currently taking no hair-loss treatments as I have stopped Rogaine for quite some time and Propecia. Shampoo I use is Revita if anybody cares to know that.

I have already taken baseline photos, but will take a few more tonight to post on this forum and this forum only. Let's see if this shows promise or not. Hopefully, I can provide my insight and experience to help you all formulate your own opinion on this treatment. That's my goal. I hope this works to some degree.

Wish me luck.

[Swooping]

3 weeks is a very short time to judge a hair regrowth treatment. Granted that Follicept gave people the wrong hope that they expected to "see positive results in a few weeks." https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showth...ht=#post205061

Most people who have tried a hair regrowth treatment know that hair really does take time to regrow, and that it is not going to happen in a "few weeks", if it happens at all!

I think you need to give them at least 6 months to decide if it has the potential to regrow hair.

You could blame Follicept for being extremely naive and pushing this unrealistic hair growth time frame, but I also think we ourselves collectively are also to blame because we want to believe these claims.

It is like someone who wants to lose 14 pounds of weight in 2 weeks: it us very unrealistic to achieve it in reality!

Hair counts from minoxidil peak already at 12-16 weeks.

[Arashi]

You're right, it's easy to confuse AA for androgenic alopecia. There are other studies showing it is effective too such as http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4134641/

Yeah that's AGA. However again, a pilot study without control. And also again, PRP might be very different from administering growth factors directly. The idea with PRP is that it secretes growth factors. Yet it might really be something else to inject growth factors directly. And then there's Follicept, who only injects one growth factor, which also happens to be the growth factor LEAST associated with hair growth:

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