AAPE Trials - I'll be experimenting with it

[nofintowin]

The doctor does a bunch of things, but has been doing PRP for a few years now (originally he did it for pain - i.e. joints, etc, but started doing it for hair a while back). So, he understands a lot about hair, etc and has attended numerous conferences. Convincing him to do the AAPE was easy as he's open to alternative forms of medicine

[champpy]

Also sorry if I missed it, but is your doc a hair transplant doc or just your GP or something?

I would also like to know what type of doctor is doing this for you, as I would be on board for trying. Ive contacted some cosmetic places that do micro needling but they don't seem to want to attempt this at all

[LMS]

Also sorry if I missed it, but is your doc a hair transplant doc or just your GP or something?

[LMS]

So one month in and no noticeable change in hair quality, shedding etc?

[bananana]

I'll probably post pics at the 2 month petiod (for t=0, t=1 months, t=2 months). I had my first treatment around 4 weeks ago, my second treatment yesterday, and my third treatment is scheduled for June 17. The doc has been taking some pics of me before each session, so I'll ask him to send me these (though we're not using a thricoscan and I don't think the pics are the best, but they should do)

So far, no side effects, no additional shedding. Treatments are pretty simple, takes 20 mins (by injection). I don't use any topical anaesthesia creams. Pretty much follow the study's protocol in terms of dosage, and we inject my ENTIRE scalp. My doc has been using a 30-G needle, so not too painful. He gave me a few injections in the area of my temples where my hair has receded as well, so it'll be obvious if there's any regrowth at any time. At the end of the treatment, he sprays on a layer of the AAPE all over my scalp, followed my some light microneedling. Head is usually sore for one day.

@ziggyz123 - it's already available. Read up. Just order the damn thing yourself and find any damn doctor to inject it, lol. Don't understand why people are waiting if times are desperate. The box of AAPE (that last for 6 treatments) costs $500 from prostemics. My doc charges me $100 per session, so total cost for 6 sessions is $1,100, which some docs alone charge for one session of PRP lol..

Tnx and good luck - keep us updated!

[nofintowin]

I'll probably post pics at the 2 month petiod (for t=0, t=1 months, t=2 months). I had my first treatment around 4 weeks ago, my second treatment yesterday, and my third treatment is scheduled for June 17. The doc has been taking some pics of me before each session, so I'll ask him to send me these (though we're not using a thricoscan and I don't think the pics are the best, but they should do)

So far, no side effects, no additional shedding. Treatments are pretty simple, takes 20 mins (by injection). I don't use any topical anaesthesia creams. Pretty much follow the study's protocol in terms of dosage, and we inject my ENTIRE scalp. My doc has been using a 30-G needle, so not too painful. He gave me a few injections in the area of my temples where my hair has receded as well, so it'll be obvious if there's any regrowth at any time. At the end of the treatment, he sprays on a layer of the AAPE all over my scalp, followed my some light microneedling. Head is usually sore for one day.

@ziggyz123 - it's already available. Read up. Just order the damn thing yourself and find any damn doctor to inject it, lol. Don't understand why people are waiting if times are desperate. The box of AAPE (that last for 6 treatments) costs $500 from prostemics. My doc charges me $100 per session, so total cost for 6 sessions is $1,100, which some docs alone charge for one session of PRP lol..

[Ziggyz123]

Yeah, those results are really impressive and I don't usually let myself get my hopes up over this kind of stuff. I hope doctors start trying this out because prp seems to be a joke.

[JHtotheT]

do you have a link to the study?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25834689

More detail:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4379938/

Impressive results! Quote from the study: "RESULTS: Hair numbers were significantly increased after treatment in both male (including those without finasteride administration) and female patients"

[Hairismylife]

Yeah! We are cured?

[Ziggyz123]

Noob question, but when is this supposed to be available? I read about a doctor in Orange County using stem cells derived from fat, but the results were "eh"

[joachim]

Did you read the study released march 26 2015? (Hair regeneration treatment using adipose-derived stem cell conditioned medium: follow-up with trichograms - hirotaro Fukuoka, MD, PhD, and Hirotaka Suga, MD, PhD)

It states that the participants received treatment every 3-5 weeks for a total of 6 sessions.

Their conclusion after follow ups: "Hair numbers significantly increased after treatment in both male (including those without finasteride administration) and female patients.

They did however follow them up for about 2 years after initial treatment.

do you have a link to the study?

[Sogeking]

Well 3/0.02 = 150 injection spots.

I worded my question wrong. One application of the treatment is as it was said 3-4 millilitres, however I actually meant how many sessions and it was said 6 in post below so I'm good.
@robodoc
Yeah some good results were noted after 1 year has passed. So this has some potential but in the long run.

[JHtotheT]

Here is my comment on AAPE. It has potential and may help or slow down hair loss but here is bad news. I read the AAPE study, looked at the results and definitely feel it helps but....the best results come from 2 years of use and not complete reversal of hair loss. So as I have said before AAPE used in conjunction with other remedies may result in an additive effect. Other remedies are Nizoral, Minoxidil, Finasteride, supplements and good health habits.

If you can afford around $2,000/year then you can try it. Getter closer but not there yet.

Did you read the study released march 26 2015? (Hair regeneration treatment using adipose-derived stem cell conditioned medium: follow-up with trichograms - hirotaro Fukuoka, MD, PhD, and Hirotaka Suga, MD, PhD)

It states that the participants received treatment every 3-5 weeks for a total of 6 sessions.

Their conclusion after follow ups: "Hair numbers significantly increased after treatment in both male (including those without finasteride administration) and female patients.

They did however follow them up for about 2 years after initial treatment.

[robodoc]

Here is my comment on AAPE. It has potential and may help or slow down hair loss but here is bad news. I read the AAPE study, looked at the results and definitely feel it helps but....the best results come from 2 years of use and not complete reversal of hair loss. So as I have said before AAPE used in conjunction with other remedies may result in an additive effect. Other remedies are Nizoral, Minoxidil, Finasteride, supplements and good health habits.

If you can afford around $2,000/year then you can try it. Getter closer but not there yet.

[Swooping]

How many times? Meaning how many times do you have to inject those 3-4 milliliters?

Well 3/0.02 = 150 injection spots.