AAPE Trials - I'll be experimenting with it

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  • robodoc
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    SNake oil??

    Originally posted by cr1mson
    Thank you for trialling this, I am keen to see what kind of results you get as I am in a similar position to you (NW2 Diffuse)
    I have had an experience with Prostemics and based on that I have some doubts about the company and the product.

    I have been waiting days to hear from them. Hopefully tomorrow I will know.

    I suggest not buying any product until I explain tomorrow but your money.

    I will post tomorrow.

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  • champpy
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    Yes thanks and please post as many links as you can. The better info i supply the better my chances of finding someone who will do it

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  • robodoc
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    Probable we have all seen but never hurts to post.

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  • robodoc
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    oh, I will draw up 0.3ml and try to come close to 0.02ml. The syringe is calibrated to choose 0.02ml. This is all speculation, needles get dull and injecting such a small amount, as I said, very difficult.
    I hope this method is temporary. I am looking for good device to administer and I think there is one one but don't have hours to search.

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  • Ziggyz123
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    Objective: Adipose-derived stem cells secrete various growth factors that promote hair growth. This study examined the effects of adipose-derived stem cell-conditioned medium on alopecia. Methods: Adipose-derived stem cell-conditioned medium was ...


    You may have already seen that link. If so, sorry!

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  • robodoc
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    Fair question. Until I find a device to apply that I like, the insulin syringe is my tool. As good as I am with a syringe, it is probabley impossible to get 0.02ml per dose. I am not concerned some injections may me more than the other. It should work if it is going to work.

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  • champpy
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    Ill look into that link tonight....

    I may have found a place here in Texas that will do the needling and apply the AAPE, but they are asking for some info about AAPE.

    Does anyone here have any good links (in English) that might help convince this clinic to give this a try? Studies, trials or usage instructions would be really helpful.

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  • nameless
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    Originally posted by nofintowin
    The doctor does a bunch of things, but has been doing PRP for a few years now (originally he did it for pain - i.e. joints, etc, but started doing it for hair a while back). So, he understands a lot about hair, etc and has attended numerous conferences. Convincing him to do the AAPE was easy as he's open to alternative forms of medicine
    nofintown, keep in mind that AAPE is the growth factors found in adipose derived stem cells. In the human body the adipose derived stem cells are supplying these growth factors to the follicles often not just once a month or once every few months. This means that you should perhaps do these injections somewhat frequently because you want to follow the example nature has laid out. Again, nature is supplying the follicles with these growth factors somewhat frequently, not just once a month or so.

    How often are you injecting the AAPE?

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  • Ziggyz123
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    Smart man ^^^

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  • stratowich
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    Intradermal injections and the technique are fairly simple. Can you get a nurse or other health professional to show you? Look up on the internet? Of course I know the technique so easy for me say. I am also going to do my own injections because insulin needles depending on the location are painless. The frontal scalp area and crown, if I recall, are not painful to inject.
    Maybe you can also give Poloxamers a shot. This is basically what Follicept is trying/tried to do with IGF-1. Poloxamer is a common biopolymer in intradermal drug-delivery. There is a possibility that this would work better than injections. This is a decent review to start reading about it: http://www.ualberta.ca/~csps/JPPS9_3...49Formated.pdf

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  • champpy
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    robo, do you just plan to add the aape formula into the insulin syringe and inject in multiple locations around your scalp? How do you know how much to give each injection site?

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  • robodoc
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    Intradermal injections and the technique are fairly simple. Can you get a nurse or other health professional to show you? Look up on the internet? Of course I know the technique so easy for me say. I am also going to do my own injections because insulin needles depending on the location are painless. The frontal scalp area and crown, if I recall, are not painful to inject.

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  • robodoc
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    I prefer to be wrong about AAPE but where are the results? Drug companies and researchers do not count, real world results count.

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  • champpy
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    Ok so perhaps Ill try to search for doctors that specifically do PRP or regenerative type medicine and start asking if this is possible. Thanks!

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  • Hairismylife
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    Originally posted by nofintowin
    The doctor does a bunch of things, but has been doing PRP for a few years now (originally he did it for pain - i.e. joints, etc, but started doing it for hair a while back). So, he understands a lot about hair, etc and has attended numerous conferences. Convincing him to do the AAPE was easy as he's open to alternative forms of medicine
    Looking forward to your update and regrowth.
    My concern is whether AAPE is safe.
    I would fly to US every five weeks to do AAPE if it's safe and effective.

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