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  • baldie42
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 9

    Googled & found this,is this the confirmation we need to show there's a good chance it might work???

    "IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor)" is a very important growth factor produced in cells throughout the body and it plays critical roles not only in promoting the physical growth but in boosting the immune system and healing power of the body. The growth factor is also produced in the hair follicle and promotes hair growth by proliferating keratinocytes, thereby improving alopecia. IGF-1 is decreased due to any reasons such as stress and aging, which induces hair loss. Therefore, promotion of IGF-I production by the safe method is critical for maintenance of normal hair growth and also for restoration of hair growing power in patients with alopecia.

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    Good Luck Follicept

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    • Hairismylife
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 383

      Originally posted by baldie42
      Googled & found this,is this the confirmation we need to show there's a good chance it might work???

      "IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor)" is a very important growth factor produced in cells throughout the body and it plays critical roles not only in promoting the physical growth but in boosting the immune system and healing power of the body. The growth factor is also produced in the hair follicle and promotes hair growth by proliferating keratinocytes, thereby improving alopecia. IGF-1 is decreased due to any reasons such as stress and aging, which induces hair loss. Therefore, promotion of IGF-I production by the safe method is critical for maintenance of normal hair growth and also for restoration of hair growing power in patients with alopecia.

      See link



      Good Luck Follicept
      Arasia, Nameless and Swooping are going to say: It's just not going to work.

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      • DerekM228
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 20

        BAM!!! -- https://twitter.com/follicept/status/588006347079286784

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        • GSD
          Member
          • Apr 2015
          • 75

          Good news!!

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          • grayfoxxx
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 8

            wowowowowow

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            • serenemoon
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 210

              Originally posted by gsd

              wooohooooooooo!!

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              • Jagger
                Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 59

                Originally posted by GSD
                That is excellent! Let's hope it doesn't get, like, eaten/drank by some sort of comedic janitor character.

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                • follicept
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 251

                  Alright everybody. Looks like I had lots to catch up on, since I actually enjoyed my weekend for the first time in a long time this weekend

                  So here goes, in no particular order (hang with me, some good news in here).

                  Nameless, I know you apologized and appreciate that. However, to address your points briefly: it's fine to want equity for helping, but not to feel entitled to it. If I could arrange that and allow you guys to invest at all, at a discount or not, I would. Unfortunately, the SEC has pretty strict laws and I don't think I'd like prison. Your support was beneficial but not critical, and we accepted help, we didn't enlist it. There was no contract to exchange services.

                  We were aware of the suppliers you all found already, though DerekM228s email response allowed me to push my science team to ask different and better questions that ultimately led to us securing the sample. To think that we were about to abandon this project which as you say could generate insane revenue because we hit a little speed bump on supply is ridiculous. I was ready to walk away from the forums, not the project, based on the flaming and negativity.

                  Saying that this has been a low effort endeavor is downright offensive to me. You have no clue what we have gone through to work on this. Once we are more stable and on our way, I will share if you want. And you don't know me- to say I would only help people with expectation of something in return is counter to who I am. I go out of my way to help people any way and time I can, with the only reward being that maybe I made someone's like just a bit easier for them.

                  Even if we just broke even on this project and could help millions of people, we absolutely would. And will, with other medications/diseases.

                  We are remembering you guys by keeping you updated every step of the way, giving you input into the process, and as early access and good a price as possible.


                  On the vehicle and mechanism: I forget who said it, but it's correct to say the way it works is we are delivering it right to the destination rather than getting into circulation and hoping it gets to the DP.

                  On the product: one "unit" will be one month's treatment- 12 doses. 3x/week for 4 weeks. TBD how many months we will have to wait between treatments, might be individual, maybe 1-3 months. We think pulse therapy/ taking months off is key to this treatment. Still working out pricing for Indiegogo, but given 1 month is actually a couple months treatment since you take time off, it may be a higher price but still competitive on the average monthly cost of competitors. Will update once we calculate costs of manufacturing, etc. As for limits, we will probably do something like 1 unit, 3 units, and 6 units (1 year or so worth), though those prices will be at a premium for those who want to secure supply. This will help us raise more funds to scale up for full release sooner, so we will really need your help here!

                  Regarding how this is panning out: Your points are well taken, but we didn't anticipate this response, and thought the best thing to do would be to engage. We didn't anticipate the frenzy or the supply issue, and the product is designed to be safe effective and affordable. Nothing false about that. I understand the psychological let down, and no one will be more disappointed than me. That said, no one is responsible for your own happiness, and it's not in our hands to ensure your psychological well being. Believe me, I understand let downs and praying every night for an outcome. There have been times where I was beyond disappointed, and have sought counseling when I needed help to get back on my feet. I recommend doing the same to anyone who struggles with any issues like this. Hair doesn't define you, this forum doesn't define you, and you have value as a human being. Never hand anyone the keys to your happiness. That's your responsibility. I would feel terrible about letting you all down, but your reaction to that is up to you. I truly respect and appreciate your perspective, but disagree on a few points. Regardless, thank you for sharing them.

                  For our glam entrance- Dr. Hsu actually is a bit of a rock star, so that could happen!! Wouldn't that be awesome!!

                  We don't know anything you don't, we are just confident in the science behind it. And it's not false advertising- it is designed to be that way, and we will not sell it if all 3 aren't true.


                  For the questions about long term treatment, we will continue to monitor test subjects over a year or more (though we will likely release much sooner once we know it works) to see how long people can wait between use cycles, etc. We may also create an anonymous database for you guys to use to post and track results so we can get some insight over the long term and contribute to understanding of AGA.

                  We saw one paper that indicates we can see growth in as little as 12 days. Obviously time will tell.

                  3/4 were answered but quick to make Follicept from IGF-1. We will use Trichoscan to count hair.

                  Re: the FDA, this will not be an FDA- approved product. They aren't involved in the process. Much like vitamins or cosmetics, they say "these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA." They always have power to step in and question or stop sales of a product if they feel there is a safety risk. It's their job. That's why we are doing everything to rigorous standards and completing trials, so if they ever did raise questions, we could answer them effectively. We of course will comply with any of their direction, but we are confident that we are giving you a safe and effective product that will not raise any major concerns. No different than many many products out there already.

                  We expect positive results with women and diffuse loss, but will likely limit trials to men to get a homogenous population to determine effectiveness with most certainty. We are not sure how long the pores we think we are creating with the formulation stay open, so again, we must stress that this is designed to be a standalone therapy and cannot recommend use with other products.

                  Finally, check it out: Christmas came early.



                  Now we're ironically waiting on delivery of the other components, and will make up a batch as soon as we get them in. I am getting a haircut asap and will let you know/ post pics and video when I begin. Probably early next week, as I am travelling this weekend.

                  Thanks everybody!!

                  Devon

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                  • follicept
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 251

                    Originally posted by Jagger
                    That is excellent! Let's hope it doesn't get, like, eaten/drank by some sort of comedic janitor character.
                    I don't think any of the posters you are referring to work around here

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                    • nameless
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 965

                      Originally posted by Hairismylife
                      Arasia, Nameless and Swooping are going to say: It's just not going to work.
                      I never said it won't work. I said the odds are against it.

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                      • Hairismylife
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 383

                        Thanks Devon!

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                        • breakbot
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 101

                          Wow!Amazing! A vial with igf1!!!I can't hold my tears!!

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                          • stayhopeful
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 280

                            just poppped a bo nerrrr ..... lol


                            i neeeeed follllicepppt nowwwwwwwwwwwww


                            GOOD LUCK TEAM FOLLICEPT WOOT WOOT

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                            • nameless
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 965

                              If you define snake-oil as an INTENTIONALLY deceptive product then I'm 99% sure that Follicept is NOT snake-oil because I highly doubt that the treatment is an INTENTIONAL deceit. It's obvious that Follicept is genuinely trying to determine if IGF-1 can reverse hair loss inside of the Follicept vehicle. It's doubtful that it will work but if it doesn't work it won't be because of anything inappropriate by Follicept. That's as plain as the noses on our faces.

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                              • stayhopeful
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 280

                                Originally posted by nameless
                                If you define snake-oil as an INTENTIONALLY deceptive product then I'm 99% sure that Follicept is NOT snake-oil because I highly doubt that the treatment is an INTENTIONAL deceit. It's obvious that Follicept is genuinely trying to determine if IGF-1 can reverse hair loss inside of the Follicept vehicle. It's doubtful that it will work but if it doesn't work it won't be because of anything inappropriate by Follicept. That's as plain as the noses on our faces.
                                look at nameless striking a conciliatory tone all of a sudden.... now that he sees the vile is here and ready to go LoL

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