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Okay nameless you have made your point why do you care so much for people being on board with your opinion?; I agree with you but who cares, we will find out soon enough. Why don't you just sit back now and wait for the results instead of cluttering up the thread. I come here for updates not to scroll through pages of pointless arguments.
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Devon, will you consider to copy the growth factor mixture of Histogen as they have good result.
With your delivery method I think the result will be even better.
I mean IGF-1 alone is not likely to make dramatic result.Comment
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Yeah could be interesting using a mix of stuff proved have some sort of effect at least, like caffeine http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214716Comment
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I'm quite sure if Follicept uses Histogen mixture it'll have result similar to Histogen trial, which is over 50% increase!
But will this violate laws of Fda?Comment
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Does anyone know if there are any potential side effects that might occur when using Follicept? (IGF-1)
Are there any known side effects linked to the use of IGF-1 at all?Comment
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I assume the above site's list of symptoms relate to injections of IGF-1, as the most prevalent use of IGF-1 is as a performance enhancer for athletes and bodybuilders.
As Devon mentioned though, Follicept's delivery mechanism involves extremely low doses of IGF-1. The dosage is so low that it will not go systemic and will be virtually unnoticed by the body.
Therefore although the symptoms of IGF-1 do exist, I'm not quite sure how prevailing they are with Follicept's technique. I think the FDA would have had a field day with Follicept if they felt otherwise.Comment
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here's my problem with the way this is panning out:
there's this assumption that, since follicept is not charging anyone and not even releasing the product unless they are satisfied with the results, there's no risk involved whatsoever, and if it doesn't work, there's no harm done. i disagree with that. i think coming to this forum and generating the kind of frenzy that's been generated here without knowing with absolute certainty that it works, and without even having the chief component of your treatment in your possession is a form of harm. "safe. effective. affordable." huh? why are you saying this if you don't know whether it works on humans? that's an unproven claim. it's blatant false advertisement.
and while the hypothetical failure of this product won't harm anyone financially, it's going to harm a hell of a lot of people psychologically. that's a big deal to me. i've been on this ride before, where you are checking the forums religiously for any updates, counting down the days, literally praying at night for the release of a product-- only to find out 3-4 months later that it doesn't work and you're still completely out of luck. it creates a sense of hopelessness and fear that you're never going to get your hair back, that nothing will ever work for you, that you're going to be ugly and miserable for the rest of your life.
putting that into the minds of some of the 17-year-old kids on this forum who are absolutely desperate for a safe and effective treatment is not professional. i appreciate the transparency of this company, i really do. i appreciate the efforts going into this treatment and i hope it works and we're all better off. but i just feel the need to point out that if it this doesn't work, it's not like some totally neutral moment, where everything is erased from our minds and we're in the exact same place we were before we knew about follicept. we're much worse off. we've expended serious emotional energy, we've hoped, we've prayed, and we've been let down yet again.
please keep this perspective in mind as you go forward with your endeavors. good luck.Comment
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I totally agree with this message,one of the most sensible comments - I've been here before along with a lot of others,this was on another forum 7-8 years ago - I was a big follower of Intercytex.I used to phone Dr Farjo's clinic on a regular basis for updates,as they was doing the trials on behalf of intercytex.
What we all got in the end was a big let down.
Another point no one seems to of put forward is if it as successful don't you think one of the big medicine companies would be wanting to buy it for a lot of millions..
Also can we have a stop of the nonsense postings.
I'm older now,not as bothered about hairloss,but I will still be watching..
Good Luck Follicept..Comment
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yeah... really terrible of them to let us know they were testing something. I much rather what we usually deal with, randomly stumbling across clinical trial announcements in prospectuses and patents... It's so terrible having open communication and tons of information about a hairloss-product effort. Ugh... i really hate it.
next time folliciept, just let us fester in despair.Comment
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Devon has commented on the possibility of other companies wanting a piece of the action if it works. If I recall, he said that this effort is near and dear to Prometheon's heart, and they would not give up the treatment to anyone that they believed would screw it up, or table it, etc. We won't have to worry about whoever runs Propecia buying Follicept just to end it so that people will still buy Propecia.
On the note of psychological harm - yeah, I'd be unhappy if it doesn't work out. The science seems sound and the workers are passionate, but in the end, no one knows. It is not wise to get emotionally invested just yet. I feel for the youngins who might be looking at this as a be-all-end-all - it'd be great if this was the answer. But we shouldn't get invested yet. Excited, sure, but disappointment is not to correct response when Follicept has admitted that it's not a sure thing. Still though...they've got to have some reason for faith. They watched the mice grow hair. Hell, maybe the people applying it to the mice noticed their own finger hairs getting darker and thicker.
I dunno though. It would really suck if it didn't work but I believe the Follicept team knows more than we do about the treatment and its potential. There's a reason for their confidence, for them putting together a website and ad campaign and reaching out to AGA sufferers.
I hope this is the week. Devon said "the week of the 17th". Well, that's Friday, so this would be that week. We'll know soon whether the emotional investment is something worthwhile.Comment
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He also promised there will be a videochat with him and dr. Hsu for this week. Hype.Comment
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That is quite exciting. Hope they have good news! Here's how I see it going down:
Countdown ends.
Devon and Dr. Hsu appear from behind 80's glam rock-type hairdos.
Dr. Hsu grabs the mic.
"Follicept is now available at your local pharmacy."
Drops mic.
Baldness cured.
...heh. One can dream.Comment
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