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  • Illusion
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 500

    Originally posted by Keki
    If the igf fail will remain only bim, if allergan doesn't confirm phase 3 we are ****ed for the next 30 years when we will have serious stem cell growth factor and not the prp shit we have now.
    Basically next weeks will be one of the most important of our life, IT MUST WORKS, i can't sleep anymore i must know now if i'm ****ed or not i can't focus to anything anymore, i'm walking like a zombie looking for a mirror and other guys head, i'm going to explode very soon
    Get your shit together man. Besides, you haven't even tried fin right? You still have some options left then. The AA-route might not be the most attractive route (sides) but at least we know it works.

    Also, some people on here are talking like follicept is going to be a cure, I think we're already very lucky if this stuff outperforms minoxidil. Just my $0.02

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    • Keki
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 232

      We don't know the real potential of igf-1on scalp, while is studied for decades and it regulate our beard for example no one succeed, if it works completely at his 100% of potential yes we have a cure or something very near, no i haven't tried fin cus i know my body, i have low libido and fina is the last thing my body need, and i don't even know what will happen if i get sides and have no weapon against my aga, in 3 years i will go bald at this rate, i was a nw1 3 years ago and i'm a 2.5 now barely covering everything, so yes for me a successfull trial is life changing for my future, a minox like product is enough to get 2 years of hairs back and waiting for bim or seti if lucky...

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      • Hairismylife
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 383

        Originally posted by Keki
        We don't know the real potential of igf-1on scalp, while is studied for decades and it regulate our beard for example no one succeed, if it works completely at his 100% of potential yes we have a cure or something very near, no i haven't tried fin cus i know my body, i have low libido and fina is the last thing my body need, and i don't even know what will happen if i get sides and have no weapon against my aga, in 3 years i will go bald at this rate, i was a nw1 3 years ago and i'm a 2.5 now barely covering everything, so yes for me a successfull trial is life changing for my future, a minox like product is enough to get 2 years of hairs back and waiting for bim or seti if lucky...
        Set will only maintain your hair.
        We should pray for Replicel and SM.

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        • Illusion
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 500

          Originally posted by Keki
          We don't know the real potential of igf-1on scalp, while is studied for decades and it regulate our beard for example no one succeed, if it works completely at his 100% of potential yes we have a cure or something very near, no i haven't tried fin cus i know my body, i have low libido and fina is the last thing my body need, and i don't even know what will happen if i get sides and have no weapon against my aga, in 3 years i will go bald at this rate, i was a nw1 3 years ago and i'm a 2.5 now barely covering everything, so yes for me a successfull trial is life changing for my future, a minox like product is enough to get 2 years of hairs back and waiting for bim or seti if lucky...
          I get your concerns but truth is you don't know whether fin will actually make your libido worse than it already is. Saying you don't know what to do when you get sides because you then don't have any weapon against MPB isn't a valid argument either, because you don't even know if you're going to have sides in the first place.

          Look, I'm not trying to spark up a discussion in this thread but I'm just trying to say that, for someone that seems so desperate about his hair, I find it weird you haven't even given fin a chance. Like I said, fin is not ideal but we know it works pretty decently at halting hair loss at the very least.

          Honestly mate, if I were you I'd strongly consider going on fin. It will likely be good for your hair and it might put your mind at ease. The latter might even be more important than the former. If you get sides while on fin and you think the sides are worse enough to quit the drug, then quit fin. But otherwise you might be missing out on a good shot to keep your hair.

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          • dus
            Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 87

            Originally posted by Keki
            Basically next weeks will be one of the most important of our life
            lol. Prepare to be disappointed.

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            • Keki
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2015
              • 232

              Originally posted by Illusion
              I get your concerns but truth is you don't know whether fin will actually make your libido worse than it already is. Saying you don't know what to do when you get sides because you then don't have any weapon against MPB isn't a valid argument either, because you don't even know if you're going to have sides in the first place.

              Look, I'm not trying to spark up a discussion in this thread but I'm just trying to say that, for someone that seems so desperate about his hair, I find it weird you haven't even given fin a chance. Like I said, fin is not ideal but we know it works pretty decently at halting hair loss at the very least.

              Honestly mate, if I were you I'd strongly consider going on fin. It will likely be good for your hair and it might put your mind at ease. The latter might even be more important than the former. If you get sides while on fin and you think the sides are worse enough to quit the drug, then quit fin. But otherwise you might be missing out on a good shot to keep your hair.
              I haven't tried fin before becouse i was ok with my hairs till the last summer, just minor vertex thinning ad no other issue, in 1 year everything collapsed and i advaced a nw, i just want to wait another month to see if follicept can really help, if i reverse somehow half nw or more so i can avoid fin for a while it's better, otherwise i will get it next month that's for sure

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              • Hairismylife
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 383

                Originally posted by dus
                lol. Prepare to be disappointed.
                I really don't like this kind of comment with no points but just spread nonsense negative speculation.

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                • maomao
                  Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 30

                  Originally posted by Keki
                  If the igf fail will remain only bim, if allergan doesn't confirm phase 3 we are ****ed for the next 30 years when we will have serious stem cell growth factor and not the prp shit we have now.
                  If you checked this website one month ago, all you would have to be hopeful for is bim. But look! One month difference and something new had just appeared!

                  New stuff is concocted all the time. Just because it's not in sight now, doesn't mean it's not right around the corner :-)

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                  • dus
                    Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 87

                    Originally posted by Hairismylife
                    I really don't like this kind of comment with no points but just spread nonsense negative speculation.
                    You mean rational speculation.

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                    • Hairismylife
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 383

                      Originally posted by dus
                      You mean rational speculation.
                      How rational?
                      You know nothing that supports your comment that Follicept will fail.
                      I really dont understand how failure of Fol will benefit you that makes you hope it fails.

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                      • nameless
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 965

                        Originally posted by dus
                        lol. Prepare to be disappointed.
                        That's probably how it's going to go. It probably won't work. Most things don't work so the odds are heavily against Follicept. I think the approach seems plausible but there are a lot of "ifs". We don't even know if the dose they use will be sufficient and then there's the whole issue of the vehicle being right for the job. We don't know the vehicle is going to take IGF-1 to the exact right spot and keep it there. There's also the issue that even if IGF-1 is one of the growth factors needed to reverse hair loss other growth factors may also have to be added to the mix to make the treatment work. I'd say there's a 99% chance it won't work and a 1% chance it will work.

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                        • dus
                          Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 87

                          Originally posted by Hairismylife
                          How rational?
                          You know nothing that supports your comment that Follicept will fail.
                          I really dont understand how failure of Fol will benefit you that makes you hope it fails.
                          Where did I say that I hope it would fail? My point was more along the lines of don't get too emotionally invested in a speculation. 20 years of prior failed products have proven that it does not pay to do this.

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                          • tf2legend
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 24

                            Originally posted by dus
                            Where did I say that I hope it would fail? My point was more along the lines of don't get too emotionally invested in a speculation. 20 years of prior failed products have proven that it does not pay to do this.
                            The past doesn't dictate the future. The Follicept team is trying out something new that hasn't been done before. No one here knows if this thing will work or not. Lets not jump to conclusions without any evidence.

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                            • burtandernie
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 1563

                              Well random speculation does have one thing in its favor - odds. Odds are most MPB treatments simply fail to produce any significant results so why think otherwise without any proof?

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                              • tf2legend
                                Junior Member
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 24

                                Originally posted by burtandernie
                                Well random speculation does have one thing in its favor - odds. Odds are most MPB treatments simply fail to produce any significant results so why think otherwise without any proof?
                                Again, those odds that you speak of are based on the past. This is something new that's being tried. You cant put odds on something that hasn't been performed yet.

                                Too many people here are speaking with conviction like they have spent countless hours in the lab and have performed this method themselves. I ask you, where is your scientific background? Where is your scientific research? Where are you credentials?

                                All you can do is wait and not speak blindly

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