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  • breakbot
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 101

    My only hope is that these persons are not scammers. Time will tell.

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    • Dimoxynil
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 125

      Originally posted by breakbot
      My only hope is that these persons are not scammers. Time will tell.
      This community is a con-artists dream. All you have to do is spend 30 mins reading over basic hair loss science and you can pass off as a doctor/expert without anyone questioning you ( not that I'm accusing follicept of this)

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      • liba
        Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 34

        Originally posted by follicept
        I wish that were the reason!! Haha. Hope to see soon. Will definitely let you all know when I start and then update with results. Of course, there is also the risk I go totally bald. Who knows haha. Doubt it, obviously, but never know.

        As far as the shipment: basically, there is one company that makes it, and it's for another indication. I have been in discussion but they are slow. I want to give them a little more time, and I kind of hinted that I get hundreds of emails per day, and would hate to have to point them to him for answers. That's my nuclear option, is turning you guys loose on them. But not ready for that yet. Pharma just moves very very slowly. We could still have a batch by summer or fall, assuming they get it to us soon. One sample/shipment can make enough for a month's worth for about 3k people, basically our private batch. So though we are delayed, we are far from derailed.
        Delay for a whole season? Seriously? That's really... too much to be honest... Is there nothing can be done to speed it up?

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        • ghostrider
          Member
          • Mar 2015
          • 49

          Follicep, can you make topical igf +minox?1+1=3?

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          • BiqqieSmalls
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 135

            Originally posted by ghostrider
            Follicep, can you make topical igf +minox?1+1=3?
            Minoxidil might hinder IGF-1's efficacy and therefore it would be pointless to make topical IGF-1 with Minoxidil.

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            • NeedHairASAP
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 1408

              maybe helpful for your trials?

              Reflectance spectroscopy for noninvasive evaluation of hair follicle stage.



              Abstract
              Hair follicle offers an excellent model for systems biology and regenerative medicine. So far, the stages of hair follicle growth have been evaluated by histological examination. In this work, a noninvasive spectroscopy was proposed by measuring the diffuse reflectance of mouse skin and analyzing the melanin value. Results show that the skin diffuse reflectance was relatively high when hair follicles were at the telogen stage and at the beginning of the anagen stage, and decreased with the progression of the anagen stage. When the hair follicle entered into the catagen stage, the diffuse reflectance gradually increased. The changes in the melanin content of skin had contrary dynamics. Substages of the hair follicle cycle could be distinguished by comparing the changes in melanin value with the histological examination. This study provided a new method for noninvasive evaluation of the hair follicle stage, and should be valuable for basic and therapeutic investigations on hair regeneration.

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              • burtandernie
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 1563

                Originally posted by Dimoxynil
                This community is a con-artists dream. All you have to do is spend 30 mins reading over basic hair loss science and you can pass off as a doctor/expert without anyone questioning you ( not that I'm accusing follicept of this)
                Yeah pretty true but just like many other desperate communities people really deserve it and bring it on themselves for buying so much snake oil. It just encourages more fraud and snake oil. Problems without good solutions or understanding like MPB are ripe for that kind of thing because no one really knows much about anything so people just try whatever the new flavor of the month treatment that springs up

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                • liba
                  Member
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 34

                  Originally posted by follicept
                  Jagger, I know you will! Haha. And the private batch will likely have to be US only first, but not positive on that. Probably first 3k. Not sure yet.

                  Hopeeman- Still shooting for fall in the US. Looking into regulations and logistics for other countries, but trust me, if for no other reason than the money, we want it to be ASAP. We have great incentive to get it to you as fast as humanly possible.
                  Devon,
                  I'm kinda lost here, are you saying that you won't get any igf-1 at all before fall? So what would happen to the proposed trial? Would it be skipped all over and you're gonna take in some possible report from the first consumers as a reference instead? To be honest, if that is the case it would undermine some of your previous claims I'm afraid. I really think a tiny experimental batch, like an amount for 20 people 1 month, would still be possible to manage, thus you can hold a minimum trial very soon, and report some finding beforehand as planned.
                  Also, what is "fall in the US" referring to? Does that mean the private batch or the general launch to public? Would that be to possible to ship to Canada then? Thanks a lot.

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                  • tf2legend
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 24

                    Originally posted by liba
                    Devon,
                    I'm kinda lost here, are you saying that you won't get any igf-1 at all before fall? So what would happen to the proposed trial? Would it be skipped all over and you're gonna take in some possible report from the first consumers as a reference instead? To be honest, if that is the case it would undermine some of your previous claims I'm afraid. I really think a tiny experimental batch, like an amount for 20 people 1 month, would still be possible to manage, thus you can hold a minimum trial very soon, and report some finding beforehand as planned.
                    Also, what is "fall in the US" referring to? Does that mean the private batch or the general launch to public? Would that be to possible to ship to Canada then? Thanks a lot.
                    He said they're still going for the fall release, not getting the shipment in fall..

                    I believe they're having some supply issues at the moment from their distributor for whatever unspecified reason and they're trying to fix this issue as soon as possible.

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                    • liba
                      Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 34

                      Originally posted by tf2legend
                      He said they're still going for the fall release, not getting the shipment in fall..

                      I believe they're having some supply issues at the moment from their distributor for whatever unspecified reason and they're trying to fix this issue as soon as possible.
                      Hopefully it would be like what you are saying. But we should still hear what follicept has to say about this problem.

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                      • Keki
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 232

                        Originally posted by tf2legend
                        He said they're still going for the fall release, not getting the shipment in fall..

                        I believe they're having some supply issues at the moment from their distributor for whatever unspecified reason and they're trying to fix this issue as soon as possible.
                        I don't know how the supply thing works, but i linked them how H&W deliver their topical fina to europe, basically the same similar gel product, and the same pharmacy (but i think there are lot of pharmacy like them) use igf-1 for some cream aswell so they have the active ingredient, if some early results show up we european can order from that, we can test it aswell early and we can have a larger number of "summer batch"

                        - they have no issue because they alredy sell a cosmetic with igf-1, it's a pharmacy (and they have a physical shop too so not only a lab) so every safety certificate possible
                        - we european don't have to suffer for a whole year before we can get follicept if works
                        - the collaboration can speed up the testing and no supply issue for the next months, i think that pharmacy have alredy their channel of active ingredient supply
                        - follicept have a way to sell in europe

                        it's a win win win

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                        • lupero83
                          Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 36

                          Exogenous IGF-1 promotes hair growth ...


                          Devon when he thinks you may begin treatment ?.

                          If you can post pictures of follicept running many foreros we could donate an amount to assist in marketing procedures .
                          regards

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                          • BoSox
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 697

                            Follicept? More like Foll A Shit. This ain't going to do anything for hair loss. Even if it does, won't be good enough.

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                            • Hairismylife
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 383

                              Originally posted by BoSox
                              Follicept? More like Foll A Shit. This ain't going to do anything for hair loss. Even if it does, won't be good enough.
                              Your comment base on what?

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                              • DerekM228
                                Junior Member
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 20

                                Originally posted by BoSox
                                Follicept? More like Foll A Shit. This ain't going to do anything for hair loss. Even if it does, won't be good enough.
                                Classic.

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