WCHR 2014 Presentations (Community-funded)

[greatjob!]

wow I go away for a while and you guys send Desmond to South Korea! Good work guys! However I have to say I am quite disappointed, it seems that we now know for sure nothing is coming soon, I was hoping Follica was getting close. So outside of some out of nowhere cure we are all screwed.

[JZA70]

Soooooo?

So instead of wondering if things are 10+ years away, now you know.

I'm hoping Jahoda will make a new video snickering about how it's been 30 years since he published his first paper. I have a feeling that everyone who's 25+ will likely not benefit from any of this research.. It'll likely be too late for most of us.

What's the point of suffering from hair loss during the prime years of your life (20-35) only to get a full mop of hair back when you're 45. Like I said before, it will be SUCH a kick in the teeth if that happens. I don't know about you, but I DON'T want to know what I missed out on during the course of my prime years, no thanks. It's now or never. I have a feeling JFSI would go into an even more depressed state if that happened, seeing how much of his life he missed out on.

It's beyond me why Tsuji Labs, Cotsarelis, Jahoda/Christiano and Lauster's team don't get together under one roof and solve this issue TOGETHER. Unless some sort of major collaboration happens, this could very well take a LONG time. Not to mention, what's so hard about working together ? Each team has valuable information and maybe, just maybe, when they combine their efforts, we might actually have something to look forward too.

[FREDERIK]

Soooooo?

[sascha]

Hello Desmond I donīt know if you read this stuff but... Would it be possible for you to talk with Spencer about what we found out to clear things up. It seems that a lot of people are more confused than before the WCHR have a nice one

[hellouser]

the replicel results we saw were very early on..i guarantee they had better results in order to get the investors money

If they're culturing in 3D, we should see some results. Which begs the question:

Aderans proved to give some results and completely halt further loss with 2D culturing of DP cells. The industry trolled us once again and pulled funding from finishing Phase III trials (I would have easily paid to halt further loss).

But why are you still dicking around with all this hypothetical crap about Dr. Jahoda's methods working or not? We know that follicles don't disappear, they simply miniaturize. So why are we NOT currently running trials culturing DP cells in 3D and injecting them back in...? If Replicel is hoping to rejuvenate existing miniaturized follicles, then 3D cultured DP cells injected back in should work similarly and perhaps give better results than their 2D cultured counterparts.

WHY is the industry trolling us so god damn hard?! WHY is everything taking so god damn long?!

[FearTheLoss]

the replicel results we saw were very early on..i guarantee they had better results in order to get the investors money

[rdawg]

Yeah it's not dead but it's not exactly tap dancing. The fact they clearly haven't been able to attract an investor, and the fact they've started to diversify, are both bad signs IMO.

The results were good but not stellar and I don't think they were good enough to really get anybody interested enough to fund the next stage.

Which is pretty much the story with Aderans too. Ironically the only one to get an investor is Replicel, who seem to have had the worst results of the three. Go figure.

it's possible Replicel had the best theory of the three or showed the japanese company something they really liked so they invested in it. Replicel in theory is very intriguing, just underwhelming with early results.

Still we havent heard from Histogen in over a year and doesnt look like we will any time soon, either way, would it have been much better than BIM or CB which both look to be on track to release within a few years?

[Sogeking]

Yeah it's not dead but it's not exactly tap dancing. The fact they clearly haven't been able to attract an investor, and the fact they've started to diversify, are both bad signs IMO.

The results were good but not stellar and I don't think they were good enough to really get anybody interested enough to fund the next stage.

Which is pretty much the story with Aderans too. Ironically the only one to get an investor is Replicel, who seem to have had the worst results of the three. Go figure.

Yes. I myself am confused by this outcome. I still hope REplicel has at least tried to do something to improve effectiveness.
Histogen had some results, but that failed merger cost them...

[Pate]

No. It's more like 'histogen is in limbo'

Yeah it's not dead but it's not exactly tap dancing. The fact they clearly haven't been able to attract an investor, and the fact they've started to diversify, are both bad signs IMO.

The results were good but not stellar and I don't think they were good enough to really get anybody interested enough to fund the next stage.

Which is pretty much the story with Aderans too. Ironically the only one to get an investor is Replicel, who seem to have had the worst results of the three. Go figure.

[hellouser]

Hey, sorry, nothing to do but...is Histogen already dead?
Thanks

No. It's more like 'histogen is in limbo'

[FREDERIK]

Hey, sorry, nothing to do but...is Histogen already dead?
Thanks

[nameless]

I tried to contact the docs who did the testing but they did not respond. But this is not a bad sign. It's actually a good sign. It shows they aren't a bunch of charlatans looking to sell some gimmick. It means that there's a high probability that the study is legit. The people involved aren't trying to sell anything. It appears that they only ran the study to see what would happen. Now we need to figure out a way to get some doctor to try it where it's legal.

[rhysmorgan]

While we are waiting we should do this:

http://www.balancehairrestoration.co...stem-cells.pdf

This is good...is there any info on if they are releasing it?

[nameless]

No offense Desmond but this is at least a decade away from practical usage. I don't want to do nothing while waiting for this.

While we are waiting we should do this:

http://www.balancehairrestoration.com/wp-content/uploads/using-proteins-secreted-by-adipose-derived-stem-cells.pdf

[Sogeking]

Stepping into the unknown always carries the risk of failure. But as long as the reward outweighs failure it's always worthwhile at least in my mind anyway. P.S. What's the point of being miserable and negative when positivity can make every day better than it would have been.

Also Dr Lindner and Atac are really enthusiastic about how close they are! I got the feeling they are holding back on something big. And now that they're launching their hair cloning website, I'm even more certain.

What really blew me away was they were trialling with 3D cultures, and super low adherent culturing surfaces (polycarbonates) in early 2011! That's way before Jahoda and the taiwanese. They're just not publishing all their findings.

I think the sceptics will have a healthy surprise in the next 2 years

No offense Desmond but this is at least a decade away from practical usage. I don't want to do nothing while waiting for this.