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I totally disagree with you. I don't even have the slightest inkling why you believe what you believe. Look at the study below and it tells us how we can get a good amount of hair back in the very near term"
I really do not understand why more of us are not working together to find a way to make this treatment available to us. This stuff can clearly get us back a good amount of hair so we will be satisfied with our hair while we wait for cell based therapies to become effective.
We need to do exactly what was done in the above study. If we do that we have a very good probability of regaining enough hair so that we can comfortably wait for something better to come along. And the best thing about it is that if we work together we could find a way to get this treatment very soon. I think we could probably get it by the end of the year if we work together.
I emailed the one doctor in the study who has an email address 2 weeks ago. He has not responded. That tells me that this study is the real deal and this treatment is the real deal because if he was some charlatan he would have been all over me with immediate reply after reply after reply trying to get my money. But he's not.
This treatment is our short-term answer and we all should work together so that we can get this treatment. And we should do the treatment exactly the same as the scientists in the study did it with no deviation from what they did. What they did is complicated but we should do exactly what they did.
They started with adipose stem cell extract. Then they added some ingredients of their own and created a mixture. They injected this mixture into the scalp skin periodically at intervals not just one date. They also created a topical form of the mixture for subjects to use and the subjects also used that. We should do the exact same thing and if we do then we should get the same great results.Comment
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I have no idea how much you understand. Judging by the way you write, probably not a lot. And I don't seem to remember any controversy about anything Dr. Xu is doing. He's basically where everyone else is at: trying to create something that resembles an inductive hair germ, and also trying to find a way to multiply or make enough DP cells in order to construct these germs. Whether they can expand the cells and then restore inductivity is yet to be known- it might be necessary to make them from scratch, which is what Dr. Xu is working on. I really would love to be hopeful and think that in 8-10 years they could be putting hair back on bald guys, but the evidence for that just doesnt stack up. clinical trials alone can take longer than that, and thy haven't even really taken the first steps. my best hope is that something like replicel or histogen or even CB (though Im doubtful about the efficacy and release date for that too, not to mention rubbing topicals on your head every day is lame) comes out in the next decade and is good for maintaining. I'd be pretty happy with that.Comment
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That adipose treatment seems like it could help maintain a bit. Hard to tell since the most dramatic results on a male were on a guy taking finasteride. Also seems like it would be expensive, 4 treatments and then who knows how often you have to re-up, probably several times a year. that could pretty much break the bank if you're not a millionaire. Would be interesting to see it tested in the USA, you guys should definitely get the HT doctors to look at it. What about Dr. Cole?Comment
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Plus nameless if you think anyone can do this themselves you are retarded. Even HT docs don't have the proper facilities do do this kind of thing yet.Comment
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Desmond, bring forth the good news!Comment
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You are right, I probably do not understand everything, because I don´t want to, I have better things to do. But coming here every day to make negative posts, like you do isn´t very smart too. Never heard of it? Well than you didn`t understand a lot either my friend. Heard of Dr. Yamanaka? Dr. Xu(not your secret lover, another one)?Comment
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Retarded? Dude you need to grow up.
And the study results are much better than merely maintaining. There is considerable regrowth.
That aside, I never said do it ourselves. I don't even think it could be done in America except as clinical trial. But there are places in the world where it could be done.Comment
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Stepping into the unknown always carries the risk of failure. But as long as the reward outweighs failure it's always worthwhile at least in my mind anyway. P.S. What's the point of being miserable and negative when positivity can make every day better than it would have been.
Also Dr Lindner and Atac are really enthusiastic about how close they are! I got the feeling they are holding back on something big. And now that they're launching their hair cloning website, I'm even more certain.
What really blew me away was they were trialling with 3D cultures, and super low adherent culturing surfaces (polycarbonates) in early 2011! That's way before Jahoda and the taiwanese. They're just not publishing all their findings.
I think the sceptics will have a healthy surprise in the next 2 years
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Agreed about optimism, and I admire your ability to stay light. Hope you're right about progress too! Science is definitely making larger leaps than ever. what ever happened to the Lindner presentation and interview though? Thanks desmondStepping into the unknown always carries the risk of failure. But as long as the reward outweighs failure it's always worthwhile at least in my mind anyway. P.S. What's the point of being miserable and negative when positivity can make every day better than it would have been.
Also Dr Lindner and Atac are really enthusiastic about how close they are! I got the feeling they are holding back on something big. And now that they're launching their hair cloning website, I'm even more certain.
What really blew me away was they were trialling with 3D cultures, and super low adherent culturing surfaces (polycarbonates) in early 2011! That's way before Jahoda and the taiwanese. They're just not publishing all their findings.
I think the sceptics will have a healthy surprise in the next 2 yearsComment
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This may be of some help:
Notice that Dr. Uwe Marx is heading the site... but its a general site, not so much dedicated to hair cloning.Comment
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No offense Desmond but this is at least a decade away from practical usage. I don't want to do nothing while waiting for this.Stepping into the unknown always carries the risk of failure. But as long as the reward outweighs failure it's always worthwhile at least in my mind anyway. P.S. What's the point of being miserable and negative when positivity can make every day better than it would have been.
Also Dr Lindner and Atac are really enthusiastic about how close they are! I got the feeling they are holding back on something big. And now that they're launching their hair cloning website, I'm even more certain.
What really blew me away was they were trialling with 3D cultures, and super low adherent culturing surfaces (polycarbonates) in early 2011! That's way before Jahoda and the taiwanese. They're just not publishing all their findings.
I think the sceptics will have a healthy surprise in the next 2 yearsComment
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