Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

[hellouser]

I wonder how many suicides occur each year as a result of hair loss and social withdrawal.

Social withdrawal we'll never know... If it's not acceptable to be bald and not acceptable for men to show weakness, you'll rarely see a man open up about his hair loss affliction. Men with hair loss get ZERO empathy.

[BoSox]

I really wish we could get Spencer's opinion about this. I just explained to my brother that they finally solved hair loss, but I'm worried that I'm getting his hopes up.

I'm fortunate, been on propecia since 07, saved most my hair. My poor brother since then has lost most his hair, and hasn't been the same since. As much as I want this to be true, I want it more for my brother and others in the same situation.

Please hurry.

[Thinning87]

Men are often very private regarding the demoralizing impact hair loss has on their lives. Being the victim of bad hair transplant surgery is worse than being bald.

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Is it really? And what should we do if we want a good hair transplant instead? I have a feeling you want us to get a hair transplant.

[hellouser]

Is it really? And what should we do if we want a good hair transplant instead? I have a feeling you want us to get a hair transplant.

Of course he does... that soliciting sign off after every post of his is evidence of that. He'd be out of a job if transplants were (and should be) irrelevant in exchange for superior and proper alternatives.

However, transplants will still have their place anyway so they got nothing to worry about.

[35YrsAfter]

Is it really? And what should we do if we want a good hair transplant instead? I have a feeling you want us to get a hair transplant.

I work at Dr. Cole's office and I'm also a patient from 2006. I had poor hair restoration work when I was younger and had to live with it for many years. My brother lost his hair and shaves his head. That is preferable IMO to an unnatural hair transplant. I'm speaking from experience. I'm personally not interested in anyone getting anything they don't want.


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[Arashi]

I tend to agree with him though. You have to be extremely cautious when going to a 3rd world country like India. Look what happened with Dr Nigam. He injected people with animal serum without centrifuging the animal cells. That's extremely dangerous and could very well lead to cancer.

I'm not saying people shouldnt do experimental treatments, but they do need to be very careful, cause I think most of the people who went to Nigam didnt realize what danger they've put themselves in ...

[hellouser]

I tend to agree with him though. You have to be extremely cautious when going to a 3rd world country like India. Look what happened with Dr Nigam. He injected people with animal serum without centrifuging the animal cells. That's extremely dangerous and could very well lead to cancer.

I'm not saying people shouldnt do experimental treatments, but they do need to be very careful, cause I think most of the people who went to Nigam didnt realize what danger they've put themselves in ...

But here's the thing;

If the cells are being multiplied and turned into follicles, you're essentially cloning the organ that would need to be implanted into a recipient area... but you don't need to implant the follicle to see for safety, you can check the follicle for inconsistencies beforehand.

It's an exact duplicate... there should be zero problems.

[Arashi]

But here's the thing;

If the cells are being multiplied and turned into follicles, you're essentially cloning the organ that would need to be implanted into a recipient area... but you don't need to implant the follicle to see for safety, you can check the follicle for inconsistencies beforehand.

It's an exact duplicate... there should be zero problems.

But the thing is that 'checking' is exactly what people like Nigam do NOT do ! Of course, if everything would be checked correctly and if they wouldnt do blatantly idiotic things like injecting uncentrifuged animal serum, then in theory it could be relatively safe. But we're talking about India and people like Nigam.

I'm not saying they're all Nigams out there. In fact I'm sure there will be some bright and honest doctors out there. But just saying, India is not the first world and you have to be very cautions when deciding to do experimental treatments in such countries.

[hellouser]

But the thing is that 'checking' is exactly what people like Nigam do NOT do ! Of course, if everything would be checked correctly and if they wouldnt do blatantly idiotic things like injecting uncentrifuged animal serum, then in theory it could be relatively safe. But we're talking about India and people like Nigam.

I'm not saying they're all Nigams out there. In fact I'm sure there will be some bright and honest doctors out there. But just saying, India is not the first world and you have to be very cautions when deciding to do experimental treatments in such countries.

And guys like him deserve to have their shit kicked in. Why this hasn't happened yet is a mystery in itself. We'd need a CREDIBLE maverick to take lead on stem cell methods... perhaps someone in the states opening up a clinic in India just to bypass the FDA's bullshit regulations?

[HairBane]

And guys like him deserve to have their shit kicked in. Why this hasn't happened yet is a mystery in itself. We'd need a CREDIBLE maverick to take lead on stem cell methods... perhaps someone in the states opening up a clinic in India just to bypass the FDA's bullshit regulations?

I doubt someone in the USA will do that.. but I hope so. Maybe someone should start looking for some reputable doctors/bio phds in Asia and approaching them with a multi-million dollar opportunity though.

[hellouser]

I doubt someone in the USA will do that.. but I hope so. Maybe someone should start looking for some reputable doctors/bio phds in Asia and approaching them with a multi-million dollar opportunity though.

Well the potential is definitely there for any competent hair transplant doctor, hell, even Dr. Cole said he'd go to that 'drug resistant tuberculosis infested place' aka India (his words!) to meet with Mr. Nigam.

[cichlidfort]

Arashi, you mentioned that once the last final step was cracked you would then crack a bottle of champagne- was this the step you were referring too?

[Arashi]

Arashi, you mentioned that once the last final step was cracked you would then crack a bottle of champagne- was this the step you were referring too?

Well I like cracking open bottles of champagne anyway haha But it's a good question. I think we really need to see it work on skin and preferably on human skin. I'm really hoping and actually kind of expecting that some of the researchers will demonstrate that at WCHR 2014 in May. As Desmond showed us (http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=15636), there are several presentations on this subject from six (!!) research groups, including the one from Jahoda (P081), so fingers crossed ! If it's shown to work on human skin, even just transplanted onto a mouse, then yeah, that definitely is a huge milestone !

[ar50]

Hey Arashi.

suppose if it works on (human) skin: about how long do you think it will take, hypothetically, till this method will be available for us?
And how does this work?

I am sorry I dont understand all the medical terms my English is not very good.

[Arashi]

Hey Arashi.

suppose if it works on (human) skin: about how long do you think it will take, hypothetically, till this method will be available for us?
And how does this work?

I am sorry I dont understand all the medical terms my English is not very good.

Officially ? Years. It needs to go through years of clinical trials, so I guess 7-9 years would be realistic. But that's in the Western world. Of course I'm hoping that in some Asian countries for example it can come earlier due to shorter trial periods and then there will most probably be clinics offering this in unregulated countries like India, although that does certainly come with risk as outlined before ...

But before we even talk about that ... let's see what WCHR in May brings us ...