Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

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  • DesperateOne
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 289

    Originally posted by Arashi
    Of course, that was in 2012, when nobody could expand DP cells while getting those cells to from Hair follicles and grow hair ! Jahoda solved that part a year later. And now, another year later, several research groups have been working on improving that method and who knows, those chinese might have cracked it. So yeah, you can say we are damn close.
    Arashi, what are your thoughts in the melatonin study, do you see even a slight chance of some merit?

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    • tonypizza
      Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 47

      Originally posted by hellouser
      That's also an insane amount of money GUARANTEED for the next '10-20 years' while the FDA and other health ministries stall and crap all over biotechs ability to progress their trials at an acceptable pace.

      We could help fund a clinic and competent doctor do this through crowdfunding itself. It'd be an amazing opportunity for them get a business started FOR FREE and then earn cash after as well!
      Keep in mind you'd be subject to taxes of the foreign country plus that of your citizenship. Also keep in mind you'd be earning money in the Indian Rupee, which is about 1:40 the American Dollar, and you'd have to spend part of that to convert it back to the American Dollar.

      Also, medical professionals seeking licensure in another country have to sit that country's exams, and once having passed them (no easy task when you're in a foreign country and do not know their testing system or emphasis), you're going to lose your licensure in your home country at the end of the year, as you have to be actively practicing for a certain number of days in that province/state (depends state-to-state) the prior year, in addition to completing CE credits.

      Also, no Canadian or American company is going to cover you for malpractice insurance while you practice in another country.

      So there's that...

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      • garethbale
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 603

        Originally posted by tonypizza
        Keep in mind you'd be subject to taxes of the foreign country plus that of your citizenship. Also keep in mind you'd be earning money in the Indian Rupee, which is about 1:40 the American Dollar, and you'd have to spend part of that to convert it back to the American Dollar.

        Also, medical professionals seeking licensure in another country have to sit that country's exams, and once having passed them (no easy task when you're in a foreign country and do not know their testing system or emphasis), you're going to lose your licensure in your home country at the end of the year, as you have to be actively practicing for a certain number of days in that province/state (depends state-to-state) the prior year, in addition to completing CE credits.

        Also, no Canadian or American company is going to cover you for malpractice insurance while you practice in another country.

        So there's that...

        No, you would probably get some kind of double taxation relief which would be at the lower of the tax on foreign gains and the tax liability in your home country.

        This is offered by the UK government and probably operates in other jurisdictions as well. No way would two governments tax you as it would depend on where your gains were remitted to.

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          Originally posted by tonypizza
          Keep in mind you'd be subject to taxes of the foreign country plus that of your citizenship. Also keep in mind you'd be earning money in the Indian Rupee, which is about 1:40 the American Dollar, and you'd have to spend part of that to convert it back to the American Dollar.

          Also, medical professionals seeking licensure in another country have to sit that country's exams, and once having passed them (no easy task when you're in a foreign country and do not know their testing system or emphasis), you're going to lose your licensure in your home country at the end of the year, as you have to be actively practicing for a certain number of days in that province/state (depends state-to-state) the prior year, in addition to completing CE credits.

          Also, no Canadian or American company is going to cover you for malpractice insurance while you practice in another country.

          So there's that...
          This is all very true.

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          • garethbale
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 603

            Originally posted by hellouser
            This is all very true.
            Not all of it.

            You wouldn't be taxed on the same income twice. It would be either at the foreign rate or your own country's rate.

            You'd most likely get double taxation relief if taxed twice.

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            • jgold
              Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 57

              this forum sucks. all it has done to me is drag out false hope. by the time this treatment is even available, and who the hell knows if it will even come to fruition, it will be 10 years down the line, all of my hair will be gone and god dammit. super angry right now

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              • tonypizza
                Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 47

                Originally posted by garethbale
                Not all of it.

                You wouldn't be taxed on the same income twice. It would be either at the foreign rate or your own country's rate.

                You'd most likely get double taxation relief if taxed twice.
                As a Canadian citizen, the only situation I'm aware of where that applies is if I do business in the USA. A Memorandum of Understanding in the Canada-USA Tax Treaty which specifically addresses double taxation was introduced in 2005.

                The purpose is to encourage bilateral trade under NAFTA. This does not apply internationally.

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                • BoSox
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 697

                  Originally posted by jgold
                  this forum sucks. all it has done to me is drag out false hope. by the time this treatment is even available, and who the hell knows if it will even come to fruition, it will be 10 years down the line, all of my hair will be gone and god dammit. super angry right now
                  Bro, I'm with you to. But you have to look at the big picture, they have come so far in just little time. This opens up many more possibilities. I'm confident we're going to be just fine.

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                  • 35YrsAfter
                    Doctor Representative
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1418

                    Originally posted by BoSox
                    Bro, I'm with you to. But you have to look at the big picture, they have come so far in just little time. This opens up many more possibilities. I'm confident we're going to be just fine.
                    Effective hair loss treatments have progressed at a snail's pace. On the other hand, when I was in my early twenties, plugs were the only treatment available for MPB sufferers. Hair loss research evidently has not been treated as a priority over the years like heart disease, cancer, AIDS, etc.. Interesting that current oral and topical treatments such as Avodart, Propecia, and Rogaine were originally developed to treat other disorders.

                    35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
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                    • simba
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 103

                      Originally posted by jgold
                      this forum sucks. all it has done to me is drag out false hope. by the time this treatment is even available, and who the hell knows if it will even come to fruition, it will be 10 years down the line, all of my hair will be gone and god dammit. super angry right now
                      Your hair will be gone but youll be able to get it back.

                      Another way to look at it is that if you went completely bald tommorow you would only have to deal with it for 6-8 years, but seeing as itll be slower then that youll only have to deal with it for 2-4 years.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                        Effective hair loss treatments have progressed at a snail's pace. On the other hand, when I was in my early twenties, plugs were the only treatment available for MPB sufferers. Hair loss research evidently has not been treated as a priority over the years like heart disease, cancer, AIDS, etc.. Interesting that current oral and topical treatments such as Avodart, Propecia, and Rogaine were originally developed to treat other disorders.

                        35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                        forhair.com
                        Cole Hair Transplant
                        1070 Powers Place
                        Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                        Phone 678-566-1011
                        email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                        The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
                        Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                        It's because society has made it clear that balding men don't deserve the respect they should.

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                        • breakbot
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 101

                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          It's because society has made it clear that balding men don't deserve the respect they should.
                          You are crazy, you just don't respect yoursef and you think that everybody is like you. Respect has nothing to do with hair.

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            Originally posted by breakbot
                            You are crazy, you just don't respect yoursef and you think that everybody is like you. Respect has nothing to do with hair.
                            Then why are so many women repulsed by balding men?
                            Why is the stereotype of a complete failure of a man also include baldness? Why does the media treat baldness as an acceptable condition to humiliate someone over (see example here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T7rnF7_0XM ).
                            Why are ONLY men ridiculed and humiliated over hair loss, but not women?

                            Do you know of ANY condition that receives this much DISRESPECT?

                            Respect has EVERYTHING to do with this condition... and we DO NOT GET IT. You gotta be kidding yourself if its respecting yourself based on an aesthetic thats an EXTERNAL factor that society judges you on.

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                            • Hicks
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 291

                              would you want a bald women (i.e., no hair on the top of her head)?

                              Hair loss progressed because more money is flowing around. I wish more atheletes would come out for HTs like Welker

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                              • Dazza
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 264

                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                Why are ONLY men ridiculed and humiliated over hair loss, but not women?
                                Has a point to be honest. Media wouldn't laugh at a woman with hairloss.

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