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  • Cartech78
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    My fingers are crossed , i hope this is a home run . My qeustion is , how long to get it to the market if its the real deal .

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  • rdawg
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    Again just posting this article again, http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...t-Hair-Density

    They already stated significant statistical hair growth after a 135 day study(4.5 months), if the product worked continuously, then they would be seeing continued results even later.

    There is no bad news coming here, even in this ariticle it says they've seen enough to want pivotal(phase III) trials.

    the question is, is this a major breakthrough in regrowth(not necessarily a cure, but something that has a major effect), or just a small step forward( a super minoxidil).

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  • rdawg
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    Originally posted by champpy
    I take back my last post... if the drug didnt produce somewhat good results i cant imagine them presenting this in this way. Seems they are very confident in their product
    Judging by the way they talked about it(back in December they said they had significant response to the drug and we're talking NW4+ type of people, which would include diffuse thinners and such)

    Very promising, we already know the results weren't bad, I dont know why anyone thinks that(as they claimed to see significant regrowth) it's a matter of how good they actually were.

    If it's a continued growth, this would be amazing, if it's only an initial response which bumps you up a norwood or something, then it's still more promising than anything on the market.

    I'd say it's time to get fairly excited here.

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  • xyz123
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    Originally posted by Trouse5858
    I'm not sure you can read a whole lot into the participants' norwoods. It's just much easier to track, observe and photograph regrowth on patients who have less hair on their scalps. Even if the new hair that pops up doesn't make the person look drastically better overall, it's easier to definitively show that new hair has grown and it's not just lighting/ a combover.

    In any event, I want to be optimistic but the presentation is only going to be 12 minutes long? That doesn't sound like enough time to truly delve into the science behind a potential breakthrough drug in the industry or raise more funds from investors. Hopefully I'm wrong.
    Don't worry about the length of the presentation. This is a prestigious international academic conference and Samumed has been selected to present their results. It's the conference that dictates the presentation duration - not Samumed - everyone in that session gets 12 minutes. This is standard for any international conference - this is how important trials get reported these days. If the results are big, they'll get a ton of press - and everything else will follow. This whole development is very, very encouraging.

    Contrast this to Allergan's treatment of Bimatoprost - they weren't presenting those results anywhere - they snuck them into the middle of a quarterly report.

    Samumed is front and center at the world's biggest annual skin conference. You've gotta believe they've got something that they are excited about. To note - their osteoarthritis results that got a lot of publicity were posters at a conference - posters are not prestigious at all. Getting to present your results at a late breaking session - whole different level.

    This time - we've got reason to be excited.

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  • Trouse5858
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    Originally posted by Spaceboy
    We don't know what it will regrow exactly, but they did have high Norwoods in the test group. They claimed to have decently good results too. So... Time will tell. Like everything else
    I'm not sure you can read a whole lot into the participants' norwoods. It's just much easier to track, observe and photograph regrowth on patients who have less hair on their scalps. Even if the new hair that pops up doesn't make the person look drastically better overall, it's easier to definitively show that new hair has grown and it's not just lighting/ a combover.

    In any event, I want to be optimistic but the presentation is only going to be 12 minutes long? That doesn't sound like enough time to truly delve into the science behind a potential breakthrough drug in the industry or raise more funds from investors. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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  • burtandernie
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    Lets hope its good. A new treatment is just what the doctor ordered. Also maybe more exciting is it will define the future direction of further research much like propecia did back when it came out. Think how many years after propecia and even today the amount of research that went into AAs and androgens thanks to propecia. Big new treatments set the standards and define future paths.

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  • champpy
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    I take back my last post... if the drug didnt produce somewhat good results i cant imagine them presenting this in this way. Seems they are very confident in their product

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  • Spaceboy
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    We don't know what it will regrow exactly, but they did have high Norwoods in the test group. They claimed to have decently good results too. So... Time will tell. Like everything else

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  • BoSox
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    What's expected of this treatment? I'm guessing it won't regrow temple hair, but a better Minox type treatment?

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  • SriHanuman
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    Keep in mind that they were applying it only for 3 months.

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  • Reign
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    I will be at the meeting. Will let you know what information is released.

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  • Tenma
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    Great! They choose to present results at a very prestigious event.

    Cant wait

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  • xyz123
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    Originally posted by Tomtom21
    welp here it is boys... if any of you ****ers live in d.c you must attend that aad conference on march 5th i repeat march 5th. it is a saturday. samumed will be presenting phase II results according to the program information which can be found here:

    you guys can thank me later and lets ****ig hope this shit is what were all hoping boys!
    Nice find! The AAD is a huge meeting - way, way, way bigger than the Hair Congress. And their study is being presented as part of the late breaking research session - generally the most coveted and publicized spot. As the website states, this session is for "ground-breaking scientific developments in dermatologic research". And they are first among the whole line-up.

    Samumed's trial is essentially front and center at this meeting. You've gotta believe that they have some compelling results.

    All reasons to be very, very optimistic. Assuming the results look good, I suspect this will be all over the news. Excited.

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  • Seuxin
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    Regaining 1nw will be already amazing...

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  • TooMuchHairWontKillYou
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    Originally posted by Tomtom21
    welp here it is boys... if any of you ****ers live in d.c you must attend that aad conference on march 5th i repeat march 5th. it is a saturday. samumed will be presenting phase II results according to the program information which can be found here:

    you guys can thank me later and lets ****ig hope this shit is what were all hoping boys!
    Woow can't wait to hear news from them
    My hopes are very realistic. I think SM will be able to reverse max 1.5-2nw and thats very big deal I think ^_^

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