piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp

[Dan26]

this is not a court of law we reasopnable doubt and innocent till proven guilty, forget it! we require evidence it WORKS!

im hopeful but again the message to all sufferes, plan your future as if this does not work and dont part with your hard earned $$ until we know it works

[chimera]

Wow you know even if they do ever find the cure hair won't do it alone you also need a brain

... Yeah... I went full retard there...

[Thinning87]

I think he undestands that, and what he is trying to say is, how often does scammers let people trial their product for free?... yeah, I know it has happend before, but it is still rare...

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Wow you know even if they do ever find the cure hair won't do it alone you also need a brain

[gainspotter]

I'm thinking about the full possibilities of this device (if it works)

It is obviously using regeneration through wounding somehow, and it is tailored for hairloss but in time what's to say they can't make a device that works the same for skin regeneration.
Granted, they would have to change a few things but people already dermaroll for acne with modest results so this, if all goes well could have many uses.

Who knows, I could end up getting I.D'd again lol

[NeedHairASAP]

This is exactly the core of the matter. Hence, IF (!) Pilox were scammers, they'd start pumping their product way before it was available. Then when it comes out, they maximized the amount of people buying it and that's what it's all about, selling as many products as quickly as possible before people realize it doesn't work.

About the trials, not sure what to think of that, this might indeed be a positive sign ...

Thats the same strategy whether they are scammers or not.

Yoram is publishing in a peer reviewed journal and seems pretty honest. He also is taking the protocol of proving his efficacy very seriously. Everything looks decent so far.

Just please don't scare the guy away. Its not often we get to communicate eith people like this.

[bananana]

As I said this morning, we should all refrain from comments until new info comes in. Pls stop with the speculation, the truth is these are the best mpb related photos ever seen, and that gives me hope.

You cant possibly compare this to nigam or laser helmets photos.

[chimera]

This is exactly the core of the matter. Hence, IF (!) Pilox were scammers, they'd start pumping their product way before it was available. Then when it comes out, they maximized the amount of people buying it and that's what it's all about, selling as many products as quickly as possible before people realize it doesn't work.

Good point I guess...

[Arashi]

Many scammers (keratene, trx, follexen, etc) work knowing that their products will be short lived, they are after the big quick cash, which they know will irremediable stop after people have had enought time to prove it's lack of efficiency.

This is exactly the core of the matter. Hence, IF (!) Pilox were scammers, they'd start pumping their product way before it was available. Then when it comes out, they maximized the amount of people buying it and that's what it's all about, selling as many products as quickly as possible before people realize it doesn't work.

About the trials, not sure what to think of that, this might indeed be a positive sign ...

[chimera]

Hahahhahah

He fails to mention the item is not for sale YET

I think he undestands that, and what he is trying to say is, how often does scammers let people trial their product for free?... yeah, I know it has happend before, but it is still rare...

Many scammers (keratene, trx, follexen, etc) work knowing that their products will be short lived, they are after the big quick cash, which they know will irremediable stop after people have had enought time to prove it's lack of efficiency. But by letting other people trying it before, the guys from piloxll won't have the same licenses...

Of course... that is just assuming that those trial are not a scam too...

[lilpauly]

Hahahhahah

He fails to mention the item is not for sale YET

people are trialing it now for FREE!!!

[Thinning87]

arashi i undterstand . u fail to mention that this item is not for sale. u fail to mention that israeli are trying this device for free. he is sharing as much info as he can .

Hahahhahah

He fails to mention the item is not for sale YET

[Thinning87]

Hasn't it been always like that ? Without a doubt the hairloss industry is the the most heavy invested snakeoil salesmen industry in the world. Regardless of what it is, chances are just small that a new therapy/med/treatment is real.

Regarding Pilox I'm too very skeptical. Of course it might be for real but the whole thing smells a bit weird. Like, a pilogics representative goes to a hairdresser with a book full of result photo's for a product that's in prototype stage and almost a year from being released. So on the one hand there's all this 'hush hush' and on the other hand there's a book already with results photo's that pilogic representatives show to anyone who's interested. That just seems odd. Why is there a book in the first place, what's the goal of it and why does a representative take it to a local hairdresser and show it to anyone who cares, including clients ?

And then Yoram joins the forums but refuses to answer any questions regarding the mode of action, how this thing is supposed to grow hair, but only says stuff about how good it works... That's ok but if he refuses to talk about how it works, then what's the use of joining the forums, other than creating a big sales show. It all strikes me as the creation of one big hype.

Of course I might be wrong and Yoram should be treated with respect on the forums until we have evidence, but honestly I think the odds are dim that there's something real here.

If it looks like a scam, has no credible story behind it like a scam, and seems to easily regrew most of your hair like a scam, then it is a .......

[doke]

actually i own an igrow helmet and only been using a month and my hair is in a lot better condition then when i started i had good results from hairmax but the helmet im going to keep on using and its easy to use.
I am really happy that i also got it for £295 so never payed full price i will keep you guys updated but as fda passed hairmax and igrow there is certainly a benefit for me in using lasers.

[NeedHairASAP]

arashi i undterstand . u fail to mention that this item is not for sale. u fail to mention that israeli are trying this device for free. he is sharing as much info as he can .

+1

Stop scaring the guy away arashi. If it doesn't work we'll know soon enough...without you scaring away our only source of information.

[hellouser]

BTW, I have a feeling it's going to be a product like this: http://www.igrowlaser.com/results/ even the result photo's look similar.

Problem is, laserhelmets dont work ...

The results photos from PiloxII look way better than the ones from the use of a helmet.