piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp

[lilpauly]

Hasn't it been always like that ? Without a doubt the hairloss industry is the the most heavy invested snakeoil salesmen industry in the world. Regardless of what it is, chances are just small that a new therapy/med/treatment is real.

Regarding Pilox I'm too very skeptical. Of course it might be for real but the whole thing smells a bit weird. Like, a pilogics representative goes to a hairdresser with a book full of result photo's for a product that's in prototype stage and almost a year from being released. So on the one hand there's all this 'hush hush' and on the other hand there's a book already with results photo's that pilogic representatives show to anyone who's interested. That just seems odd. Why is there a book in the first place, what's the goal of it and why does a representative take it to a local hairdresser and show it to anyone who cares, including clients ?

And then Yoram joins the forums but refuses to answer any questions regarding the mode of action, how this thing is supposed to grow hair, but only says stuff about how good it works... That's ok but if he refuses to talk about how it works, then what's the use of joining the forums, other than creating a big sales show. It all strikes me as the creation of one big hype.

Of course I might be wrong and Yoram should be treated with respect on the forums until we have evidence, but honestly I think the odds are dim that there's something real here.

arashi i undterstand . u fail to mention that this item is not for sale. u fail to mention that israeli are trying this device for free. he is sharing as much info as he can .

[Arashi]

BTW, I have a feeling it's going to be a product like this: http://www.igrowlaser.com/results/ even the result photo's look similar.

Problem is, laserhelmets dont work ...

[Arashi]

does anyone remember stemcelex that was a few years ago and we all got into that and it turned out to be a scam now im not saying pil is but the isr technion piliel turned out to be another hype that did not do anything for mpb.

Hasn't it been always like that ? Without a doubt the hairloss industry is the the most heavy invested snakeoil salesmen industry in the world. Regardless of what it is, chances are just small that a new therapy/med/treatment is real.

Regarding Pilox I'm too very skeptical. Of course it might be for real but the whole thing smells a bit weird. Like, a pilogics representative goes to a hairdresser with a book full of result photo's for a product that's in prototype stage and almost a year from being released. So on the one hand there's all this 'hush hush' and on the other hand there's a book already with results photo's that pilogic representatives show to anyone who's interested. That just seems odd. Why is there a book in the first place, what's the goal of it and why does a representative take it to a local hairdresser and show it to anyone who cares, including clients ?

And then Yoram joins the forums but refuses to answer any questions regarding the mode of action, how this thing is supposed to grow hair, but only says stuff about how good it works... That's ok but if he refuses to talk about how it works, then what's the use of joining the forums, other than creating a big sales show. It all strikes me as the creation of one big hype.

Of course I might be wrong and Yoram should be treated with respect on the forums until we have evidence, but honestly I think the odds are dim that there's something real here.

[doke]

by the way the israel piliel that really regrew hair had growth factors in it which were insulin,hgh and thyroxine and these were removed from osmotics fns formula and they say these growth factors did not help in hair loss well the original formula did work so why remove them ingredience it maybe that the product could not be sold due to the fda any thoughts guys.
I wish we could get the prof lindenbraums gel formula.

[doke]

Im not sure if antiandrogens are any good in later stage of mpb ie:shiny bald but there is talk by cotsalaris that hairs can still be regrown on shiny heads as they never die but thats the product many of us want and ru may still help some but like all the drugs they seem to give up after a year or more and many still get bad sheds inbetween so is psi which is hard to get hold of stable and pgd2 the answer or cure even if it is somehave bought the oc and pg and it has not worked and thats our problem we do not know the correct dose delivery and may have to have someway to force it into the scalp skin would that be by injecting or some wounding as in scalp roller so at this time mpb still sucks and is winning.
Are we wasting money or even damaging our health by buying experimental drugs not yet tested for safety in humans we might be and thats where this disorder makes us desporate to try anything and im guilty of that.

[yeahyeahyeah]

now everyone of us gets excited about a new hair loss natural or drug that comes along and if they have pics even more but does anyone remember stemcelex that was a few years ago and we all got into that and it turned out to be a scam now im not saying pil is but the isr technion piliel turned out to be another hype that did not do anything for mpb.
Now ru58841 has had its followers since rousell in france trialed it and everyone for many years wanted to get on it it was said b y some to be the mother of all antiandrogens but was non systemic and well tolerated and now people can get it from kane and also a ready mixed version from mpb treatments that is in kb solution and stable for six months people are looking for other so called cures.
I have had these hypes about products since i started losing my hair back in the 80s and thats a long time ago?and i have spent a load of money on some of these things but never got any regrowth exceipt on minoxidil and progestorone in the early stages of my mpb and then when i heard about ru and some started getting hold of it and getting good results thats what i wanted to try and in the early days there was some stability and quality issues but we can use it now.
I hope that pgd2 and cb and oc does work but at this time more are still getting results on ru.

The pics are fake

[doke]

now everyone of us gets excited about a new hair loss natural or drug that comes along and if they have pics even more but does anyone remember stemcelex that was a few years ago and we all got into that and it turned out to be a scam now im not saying pil is but the isr technion piliel turned out to be another hype that did not do anything for mpb.
Now ru58841 has had its followers since rousell in france trialed it and everyone for many years wanted to get on it it was said b y some to be the mother of all antiandrogens but was non systemic and well tolerated and now people can get it from kane and also a ready mixed version from mpb treatments that is in kb solution and stable for six months people are looking for other so called cures.
I have had these hypes about products since i started losing my hair back in the 80s and thats a long time ago?and i have spent a load of money on some of these things but never got any regrowth exceipt on minoxidil and progestorone in the early stages of my mpb and then when i heard about ru and some started getting hold of it and getting good results thats what i wanted to try and in the early days there was some stability and quality issues but we can use it now.
I hope that pgd2 and cb and oc does work but at this time more are still getting results on ru.

[bananana]

Guys,

there will be opposing opinions now, but I would like that we refrain ourselves from clogging this topic with countless "it's the cure/it's not the cure" posts.

Please try to post only when we have some new info/pics or something important on the subject. I wouldn't want this to turn into another nigam thread.

Anyways, I wish us all the best in the new year, I have a feeling this one could be the best so far!

[yeahyeahyeah]

Small photo? Click on it. I think you're looking at the thumbnail. Otherwise, head on over to Hair Loss Talk and have a look at the large photos there... there are MANY.

There is clear regrowth in the photographs, granted some photos are not as bright then others, but you can clearly see more hair in areas which were slick bald.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I hope that this is the real deal.

Will use this, get a hair transplant (to restore my NW1) and move on with my life.

Does anyone know when this will be released?

[hellouser]

Part of my skepticism is that first picture the guy has a lot of hair in that bald area its just really small and the second picture its a lot longer which makes it deceptively look as if he grew all that hair. Really its just longer and you cant tell how much new hair is really growing there, but it looks better longer I guess
If that was all new hair growing on that complete bald spot I would admit that is impressive. I would still argue the front is the most important and results for everything seem to be weak there.

Small photo? Click on it. I think you're looking at the thumbnail. Otherwise, head on over to Hair Loss Talk and have a look at the large photos there... there are MANY.

[locke999]

8 months could turn into 2 years and then 5 years, you guys know how it is.

At this point, if you can take fin then take it. If you can't then learn to deal with hair loss, don't let it take over your life as if you lost a limb or anything. It is not that debilitating.

[burtandernie]

Personally I am more hype for something like CB 03 01 or some powerful topical AA. I just want to keep hair without fin.

[burtandernie]

If this is not impressive to you, I really think you should reexamine your expectations from MPB healing procedures. At least for 21st century.

Part of my skepticism is that first picture the guy has a lot of hair in that bald area its just really small and the second picture its a lot longer which makes it deceptively look as if he grew all that hair. Really its just longer and you cant tell how much new hair is really growing there, but it looks better longer I guess
If that was all new hair growing on that complete bald spot I would admit that is impressive. I would still argue the front is the most important and results for everything seem to be weak there.

[KJ1982]

No one knows anything more about the release yet, TravisB.

All that we have to go on is this alleged planned release within the coming year, at around eight months from now. I've seen others claiming that it will be during 2014 without being any more specific than that.

Even if this device is genuine and limited to release strictly within Israel, I don't think it would be very long before those of us outside the country could source one from within.