Follica

[brunobald]

In other news Biopsy punches are quite cheap..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-5mm-8mm-Piercing-STERILE-Biopsy-punch-DERMAL-IMPLANT-TOOL-UK-CHOOSE-SIZE-/350655767084?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Tattoos_BodyArt_SM&var=620077239908&hash=item51a4b6622c

Anyone know what lithium gluconate or lithium chloride is and its safety?

[brunobald]

ME TOO!!! And im not even taking, propecia, minox or anything else.

I feel so bad that I didnt start taking pictures when I started using my 1.5mm derm-stamp, its been six weeks and Im seeing my velus hair getting thicker and my hairline is starting to fill in and come back again. Im so lucky I caught the miniaturizing hairs in time.

Take some pics now man. It may still improve.

[Westonci]

I use the 1.5mm, hurts like hell. My whole head is covered with peach fuzz now, feels really funny, I rub it all day haha. Some thin black ones are starting to come in. If all the fuzz turns into terminal hair, I'd have a full head of hair. But I don't want to get too optimistic yet.. I'll have pics when the results become more obvious on camera.

ME TOO!!! And im not even taking, propecia, minox or anything else.

I feel so bad that I didnt start taking pictures when I started using my 1.5mm derm-stamp, its been six weeks and Im seeing my velus hair getting thicker and my hairline is starting to fill in and come back again. Im so lucky I caught the miniaturizing hairs in time.

[hellouser]

I feel like this is a meaningless update. I'm glad that Follica is still around and working on a hair loss treatment, but giving us no information about a timeline or what could be expected from a treatment is really irritating. What does "soon" even mean anyway? A few months, a few years, sometime before the end of the current geologic era?

Seriously?

Meaningless? Rather than the timeline, they pretty much spilled the beans with their method which provides INCREDIBLE insight to it with far more value than a timeline. I can't understand why you would think its 'meaningless' Even if they provided a timeline, how would we or even they know how set that timeline would be given the fact that the FDA is so full of shit and would stall further progress anyway? Follica is in it to make money, the FDA is working against them. I wouldnt count on them giving a timeline because the FDA would somehow screw it up.

[Thinning@30]

I feel like this is a meaningless update. I'm glad that Follica is still around and working on a hair loss treatment, but giving us no information about a timeline or what could be expected from a treatment is really irritating. What does "soon" even mean anyway? A few months, a few years, sometime before the end of the current geologic era?

[DesperateOne]

It says early stage thinning MPB.

So no hope for slick NW's.

So this is about as useful as finasteride without sides, and completely useless for anyone NW3+

Wounding theory has absolutely nothing to do with the level of Norwood you're at. Assuming you don't have some weird genetic immune system desease, your body will respond the same as an early Norwood. That being said, we already have known for years that the higher Norwood you are, the harder it is to come back. I like to think of it like a farm, if you have a corn field that has been dried up for years, it will take much longer to get it there, but if it still has some crops, then it will be easier since it should still have nutrients.

If you're a doctor coming out with a new procedure, of course you're going to choose the best candidate, it's just common sense. You are however, not allowed legally to claim it will work on worse cases simply because you didn't test on them, does that mean it will not work for NW6-7? Of course not, this procedure is about wounding, in fact you should be able to get hair in your arse if that's what you want.

Me and some of the members on another forum made real progress we believe on a new method of application. We came up with it based on the recent arise of the patents, I will be trying this new method out and will report back.

[UK_]

It says early stage thinning MPB.

So no hope for slick NW's.

So this is about as useful as finasteride without sides, and completely useless for anyone NW3+

[brunobald]

Early stage pattern hair loss? So this is still not for the unfortunate ones? And exactly when does it stop being early stage hair loss? NW3 and up?

No it should work anywhere in any type of skin, regardless of current hair situation.

[the_dude78]

Here is an updated scenario taken from the 2013 patent


A male subject with early stage pattern hair loss is seated in a stationary examination chair

Early stage pattern hair loss? So this is still not for the unfortunate ones? And exactly when does it stop being early stage hair loss? NW3 and up?

[brunobald]

Here is an updated scenario taken from the 2013 patent


Example 1 Method of Treatment of Skin by Disruption and Formation of Void Spaces

A method according to the present invention for effecting treatment of the skin on a human scalp is performed as follows. A male subject with early stage pattern hair loss is seated in a stationary examination chair. A clinician unseals a kit comprising a handpiece and a set of four containers. A first container comprises 1 mL of a composition comprising lithium gluconate. A second container comprises 5 mL of a composition comprising lithium gluconate. A third container comprises 1 mL of a composition comprising particles of lithium chloride. A fourth container comprises 5 mL of a composition comprising particles of lithium chloride.

The clinician first links the handpiece to a fractional laser generator, and then powers on the handpiece using a manual control. After a few moments, wireless communication is established between the handpiece and a computer onto which software for controlling the handpiece has previously been loaded.

The clinician asseses the scalp of the subject, and upon determination that the subject has a relatively minor degree of hair loss, selects the container comprising 1 mL of a composition comprising 8% lithium gluconate and the container comprising 1 mL of a composition comprising particles of lithium chloride. The handpiece includes two chambers for accommodating containers, and the clinician loads a container into each of the two chambers.

The handpiece is positioned about 5 cm above the surface of an area of the subject's scalp that is selected for treatment because of significantly thinning hair at that location. Using another manual control, the clinician activates a treatment protocol for disruption, formation of void spaces, and application of physiologically active composition to selected the target area. The generator activates a CO2 laser on the handpiece, and in accordance with the software protocol, the computer configures the laser so that it applies an ablative fractional pattern at 10,600 nm onto the target area. This pattern is sufficient to remove substantially all of the stratum corneum and epidermis from the portion of the target area onto which the laser is directed. The clinician moves the handpiece over the surface of the skin until an area measuring about 5 cm by 5 cm is treated. At the same time that the laser is being used to remove the stratum corneum and epidermis from the treatment area, the software protocol also directs the computer to configure the laser so that it intermittently forms a fractional ablative pattern that is effective to form void spaces in the dermis tissue at the treatment area. The void spaces are oriented at a substantially perpendicular angle relative to the surface of the skin, and extend to a depth of about 1 mm from the surface of the exposed dermis. Thus, translation of the handpiece over the surface of the skin is effective both to remove the stratum corneum and epidermis and to form void spaces by removal of dermis tissue during such translation.

The software-directed computer than commands the handpiece to deactivate the laser and a sequence begins for the application of physiologically active composition from the containers onto the injured target area. The clinician positions the handpiece about 5 cm above the surface of the injured skin, and begins translation of the handpiece over the surface of skin as the applicators are activated and begin applying physiologically active composition to the skin by spraying. The physiologically active composition is a mixture of the composition from the first container and the composition from the second container. The handpiece includes a mixing apparatus that combines the contents of the first container with the contents of the second container prior to activation of the applicator. By moving the handpiece over the injured target area, the clinician coats the exposed dermis with the mixed composition until the combined contents of the first and second containers are exhausted. When this occurs, the clinician deactivates the handpiece.

The clinician then applies a topical anaesthetic spray comprising 10% benzocaine to the injured target area. Next, a wand capable of generating ultrasonic vibration is placed in contact with the injured skin and activated. The clinician performs several passes of the wand over the entire surface of the injured target area in order to encourage penetration of the applied lithium chloride particles into the void spaces.

The preceding process is optionally performed iteratively with respect to additional target areas. Optionally, each target area is subject to injury by the fractional laser before any target area is contacted with physiologically active composition or subjected to ultrasonic vibration. Thus, the stratum corneum and epidermis may be removed and the void spaces may be formed with respect to all target areas prior to the application of any physiologically active composition or ultrasonic vibration, followed by the application of composition and ultrasonic vibration to all target areas. After ultrasonic vibration, the clinician may apply additional topical anaesthetic, antimicrobial compositions, bandaging, or any combination thereof, which marks the end of the treatment session for the subject.

[brunobald]

Found it on google patents.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20130204238

These patents are actually quite nice to read make a change from the usuall gobbledygook.

[brunobald]

Guys and Girls this is the patent we need to get hold of.

http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=US90343222&recNum=1&maxRec=19&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=Pub+Date+Desc&queryString=FP%3A%28follica%29&tab=NationalBiblio

If was published less than one month ago. 08.08.2013 there was also a euro patent filed for the same thing 6 months prior so the euro patent might appear first. Remember these patents are applied for years before they are granted/published so it would be safe to assume Follica are way ahead of anything we find in patents. Which is a good thing, who knows where they are at.

[DesperateOne]

What I want to know is that now that we have a good lead on a cure, why are people still bothering with pointless shit like nigam, igrow, dr gho and other snake oils. This needs to be our main priority, I know some are shedding like crazy right now.

[Hairismylife]

I use the 1.5mm, hurts like hell. My whole head is covered with peach fuzz now, feels really funny, I rub it all day haha. Some thin black ones are starting to come in. If all the fuzz turns into terminal hair, I'd have a full head of hair. But I don't want to get too optimistic yet.. I'll have pics when the results become more obvious on camera.

how long you have been bald?

[Koga]

I use the 1.5mm, hurts like hell. My whole head is covered with peach fuzz now, feels really funny, I rub it all day haha. Some thin black ones are starting to come in. If all the fuzz turns into terminal hair, I'd have a full head of hair. But I don't want to get too optimistic yet.. I'll have pics when the results become more obvious on camera.