First Pics of 3D spheroidal DP aggregate @ Dr. Nigam's Lab

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  • UK_
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2691

    #61
    Beard cells would be my first port of call, yes, because beard cells are actually STIMULATED by androgens.

    So the more androgenic you are the more hair you will grow, kind of like baldness in reverse.

    We would become masters of the multiverse.

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    • didi
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1360

      #62
      Originally posted by UK_
      Look, if Nigam can show regeneration with this technique and it is guaranteed not some scam PRP injection instead then I will be booking to go and see him to have thinning areas treated.

      Can anyone give a timeframe of when we should know whether this procedure will work or not?

      Anyones guess, dr Nigam said it himself that HM will be available in 2017..so I wouldn't get too excited about it


      as for doubling, its already happening at his clinic in Mumbai if you believe him, that's the only type of HT Nigam offers to his customers since stopped with FUE/FUT/biofibre back in May
      He does approx. 100 patients a month, that's quite a few guys

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      • UK_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2691

        #63
        Originally posted by didi
        Anyones guess, dr Nigam said it himself that HM will be available in 2017..so I wouldn't get too excited about it


        as for doubling, its already happening at his clinic in Mumbai if you believe him, that's the only type of HT Nigam offers to his customers since he ditched FUE/FUT back in May
        He does approx. 100 patients a month, that's quite a few guys
        Wait so this procedure wont be available until 2017? Sorry I havent been keeping up with the posts.

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        • didi
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1360

          #64
          if everything goes smoothly then yes,according to Nigam...I mean that's what he was claiming a few months ago...

          but you never know with him, he changes protocols and techniques on a weekly basis and I find it hard to keep up with all happenings


          He worked out donor doubling which is cure if you think abt it..and is available NOW!!!

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            #65
            Originally posted by mari0s
            Not just that, you have made every post in this thread complaining about Nigam, whats's the point with that? Just to provoke like ironman?
            The point is that I finally hope that it gets into Nigam's brain that people won't accept fake images anymore. He needs to come up with something REAL. We've asked him before, he never did. What else can we do than keep complaining ?

            To put into practice Jahoda work on human, a western company need at list 10+ years (assuming they start today). That photos proves that Nigam did it in 3 months. If he will not obtain good results he can still tring to change protocols or approach without wasting years and years (Replicel is still on DSC cells because using DP or 3D culture would require to start new trials for scratch and another 10 years)
            Sorry, but that photo proves nothing. Any Western company could do the same and shoot a photo of cultured cells. Nothing illegal about doing that in the Western world. Injecting them back, that would be illegal in any Western world. And that's why we need Dr Nigams. But it's extremely frustrating because he's lying and cheating and never comes up with reliable proof. I guess I'm just extremely frustrated by that. If he would just be fair and honest, it would be awesome. But now we're stuck with Nigams and I'm afraid he won't better his life and in 6 month we'll still know nothing, we'll only get to see blurry pictures AGAIN. And he'll just photoshop some stuff again and he'll put some random numbers in before-after photo's. It's just extremely depressing.

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            • greatjob!
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 909

              #66
              Originally posted by UK_
              Beard cells would be my first port of call, yes, because beard cells are actually STIMULATED by androgens.

              So the more androgenic you are the more hair you will grow, kind of like baldness in reverse.

              We would become masters of the multiverse.
              That would be so great! I could pull a complete 180 and throw fin in the garbage and start juicing, lol

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              • bananana
                Inactive
                • Feb 2012
                • 524

                #67
                2 questions - 1. this method will be tested on Boldy?
                2. When will it happen?

                Theory sounds great, if this works - it would be wonderful!

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  #68
                  Originally posted by UK_
                  Beard cells would be my first port of call, yes, because beard cells are actually STIMULATED by androgens.

                  So the more androgenic you are the more hair you will grow, kind of like baldness in reverse.

                  We would become masters of the multiverse.
                  Wouldn't beard cells create growth of really THICK coarse hair that is ridiculously stiff? I wouldn't want that kind of hair on my head.

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                  • veca
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 219

                    #69
                    I spoke with Dr. Nigam this morning. I asked him if he would test the 3D ba completely bald scalp or diffuse thinning. I also asked him how he plans to document the case, he replied: "I will detail the documentation to you and also as in an earlier case and will shoot photos and post .. if people want any chnages in photos and will reshot. I will select patient who resides near the clinic. I would like to inject on a slick bald scalp and also on diffuse thinning scalp to compare result. Any photo trial will be done .. if members want changes in light, angle,, etc. .. i can shoot again. Yes .. first trial pics shoot will be done ... and than final shoot will be done .. once the trial pic shoot is acceptable. My mom have got total knee replacemnt .. i am little busy with that .. . neeed not worry .. we have started giviong 3D spheroid that most of the patients from yesterday. for them and will select a patient next week for a case study, a slick bald patient. "

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                    • veca
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 219

                      #70
                      Message from Dr. Nigam to Arashi : "either i am decieving or i am not decieving...just becuase you do not have the pics you require..is not substantial...reason to reach a conclusion..whether i am genuine or decieving..wait for more time..verdict will be out..i am saying what i see...they are deciding also on what they see on pics...both are correct"

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                      • gc83uk
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1339

                        #71
                        Originally posted by veca
                        I spoke with Dr. Nigam this morning. I asked him if he would test the 3D ba completely bald scalp or diffuse thinning. I also asked him how he plans to document the case, he replied: "I will detail the documentation to you and also as in an earlier case and will shoot photos and post .. if people want any chnages in photos and will reshot. I will select patient who resides near the clinic. I would like to inject on a slick bald scalp and also on diffuse thinning scalp to compare result. Any photo trial will be done .. if members want changes in light, angle,, etc. .. i can shoot again. Yes .. first trial pics shoot will be done ... and than final shoot will be done .. once the trial pic shoot is acceptable. My mom have got total knee replacemnt .. i am little busy with that .. . neeed not worry .. we have started giviong 3D spheroid that most of the patients from yesterday. for them and will select a patient next week for a case study, a slick bald patient. "
                        I don't see the point in using a diffuse patient. Please just concentrate on a NW7 slick guy. Something like this guy.

                        Message to Dr Nigam: Please try your procedure on a guy like that in the photo and if successful then all the negativity which you receive on these boards will be forgotten and will disappear over night. It really is that simple. And I am talking about doubling, none of this 2017 stuff. Give him 10k or 15k grafts and shock the world.

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                        • brunobald
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 169

                          #72
                          Originally posted by gc83uk
                          I don't see the point in using a diffuse patient. Please just concentrate on a NW7 slick guy. Something like this guy.

                          Message to Dr Nigam: Please try your procedure on a guy like that in the photo and if successful then all the negativity which you receive on these boards will be forgotten and will disappear over night. It really is that simple. And I am talking about doubling, none of this 2017 stuff. Give him 10k or 15k grafts and shock the world.
                          Speak for yourself mate 2017 stuff is what will blow my mind.

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            #73
                            Originally posted by gc83uk
                            I don't see the point in using a diffuse patient. Please just concentrate on a NW7 slick guy. Something like this guy.

                            Message to Dr Nigam: Please try your procedure on a guy like that in the photo and if successful then all the negativity which you receive on these boards will be forgotten and will disappear over night. It really is that simple. And I am talking about doubling, none of this 2017 stuff. Give him 10k or 15k grafts and shock the world.
                            The problem with 10k grafts is that its still on the low side! Average slick bald scalp size of an NW6 is around 250cm/2. If you're aiming for 10,000 grafts that translates to 40 grafts per square centimetre. 15k is 60 grafts at which point THEN becomes acceptable. A full out cure would be 20,000 grafts as that is normal socially accepted density because anything less than that, we all know society gimps us and sees us with LESS social worth.

                            My god I'm so fvcking pissed of theres no cure still in 2013. What a monumental failure by all of us to allow that to happen.

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                            • gc83uk
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1339

                              #74
                              Originally posted by brunobald
                              Speak for yourself mate 2017 stuff is what will blow my mind.
                              I don't give a toss about that at the moment. That's like running before you can walk, makes no sense.

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                              • gc83uk
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1339

                                #75
                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                The problem with 10k grafts is that its still on the low side! Average slick bald scalp size of an NW6 is around 250cm/2. If you're aiming for 10,000 grafts that translates to 40 grafts per square centimetre. 15k is 60 grafts at which point THEN becomes acceptable. A full out cure would be 20,000 grafts as that is normal socially accepted density because anything less than that, we all know society gimps us and sees us with LESS social worth.

                                My god I'm so fvcking pissed of theres no cure still in 2013. What a monumental failure by all of us to allow that to happen.
                                I agree that you'd need 20,000, but for the sake of proving that it's working 10,000 would be pretty much nail it for me. It's all about checking out the state of his donor after having 10,000 grafts taken out and having 100% regrowth. If that works, then ask him to go again and do another 10,000.

                                It's exactly this which I believe Dr Nigam can't do. I really want him to prove me wrong though!!! A bit of reverse psychology never hurt anyone before

                                Why would we need to wait for 2017 if we can do the above already? If I'm missing something then fair enough, please explain it to me.

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