Dermarolling Community Trial

[Conpecia]

An article on the general non-hair related benefits of micro needling.

Is it possible that beginning derma rolling at an early age (20s) will maintain young skin better than doing so after most of the collagen is depleted in our 50s and 60s?

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

guys any results?

[hellouser]

guys any results?

Still none for me! I've been shedding pretty much constantly for the last two months.

I should report though, that with the level of dermarolling I've been doing, mainly harsh 'semi-wounding' which has caused some bleeding similarly to the effect of one of the youtube videos posted with the woman going across the guys face, I've been experiencing a massive SKIN shed. The wounds have been drastic enough that light scabs have appeared on my scalp which are breaking off in large chunks and look pretty damn gross. At the same time, I'm on Minoxidil twice a day on days where I dont dermaroll as well as being on CB between 1%-2% per day at 1ml of which for 4 days I used 0.9ml of PG and 0.1ml of Oleyl as the vehicle for CB.

Now, my scalp was itching like fcking crazy while using oleyl, and it increased the amount of shedding by the 4th day. It was also burning my scalp but I don't know how much damage it really did.

In any case, after the 4th day of oleyl I used the dermaroller more vigorously than ever and a couple days later I noticed a pretty bad shed, here's how it looks:



Thats after brushing my hair with my hands for about 1 minute. Insane huh?

Tough to say if thats from dermarolling, or from oleyl or from minox twice a day. I suspect its probably a combination of things but mostly at the hands of Oleyl.

[Tracy C]

Since Nizoral is used for skin infections in scalp, would it be good idea to use it in the day we dermaroll as a way to prevent some infection caused by it?

Washing your hair with Nizoral once a week is good idea if you are treating hair loss. I doubt that dermarolling makes any difference good or bad, adding Nizoral to your regimen is just a good idea.

after you guys roll what do you do?

Still waiting for my roller but I plan to clean the area with betadine and apply a very thin layer of Neosporin over the area.

guys any results?

It's too soon. For those who are following the protocol of the pilot study, I would not expect cosmetically significant results for at least four to six months. For those who are doing their own thing, who knows?

[DesperateOne]

Still none for me! I've been shedding pretty much constantly for the last two months.

I should report though, that with the level of dermarolling I've been doing, mainly harsh 'semi-wounding' which has caused some bleeding similarly to the effect of one of the youtube videos posted with the woman going across the guys face, I've been experiencing a massive SKIN shed. The wounds have been drastic enough that light scabs have appeared on my scalp which are breaking off in large chunks and look pretty damn gross. At the same time, I'm on Minoxidil twice a day on days where I dont dermaroll as well as being on CB between 1%-2% per day at 1ml of which for 4 days I used 0.9ml of PG and 0.1ml of Oleyl as the vehicle for CB.

Now, my scalp was itching like fcking crazy while using oleyl, and it increased the amount of shedding by the 4th day. It was also burning my scalp but I don't know how much damage it really did.

In any case, after the 4th day of oleyl I used the dermaroller more vigorously than ever and a couple days later I noticed a pretty bad shed, here's how it looks:



Thats after brushing my hair with my hands for about 1 minute. Insane huh?

Tough to say if thats from dermarolling, or from oleyl or from minox twice a day. I suspect its probably a combination of things but mostly at the hands of Oleyl.

So that's the new hair you grew or the only hair you have left do to shedding? You might be trying to much shit at a time.

[hellouser]

So that's the new hair you grew or the only hair you have left do to shedding? You might be trying to much shit at a time.

A lot of those hairs are finer/thinner hairs but some are also thicker terminal hairs. My hair cycles a lot though, I've lost and gained a lot of density since starting Minoxidil.

I'm really not on much though, only CB and Minox. oleyl/pg was just the vehicle for CB but I do know that another member on another forum tried oleyl/pg as well and said he was experiencing incredible shedding on it too, which my experience would only confirm that causes that. I also had the same side effects from it too; burning scalp, intense itching.

I've since dropped oleyl and am back on ethanol/pg to use for CB. Itching is GONE, scalp no longer burns and shedding during showers has decreased already. Now I just need to monitor shedding through out the day. So far, it has decreased but I'll know better in the coming weeks/months.

[Knockin on NW4]

U think the shed is because u are transitionning from RU to CB? how long were u off RU before starting CB? its cant be from rolling. Has to be from the transition and perhaps oleyl irritation

[clandestine]

hell are you using eth(70)/PG(30) vehicle for CB?

[DesperateOne]

A lot of those hairs are finer/thinner hairs but some are also thicker terminal hairs. My hair cycles a lot though, I've lost and gained a lot of density since starting Minoxidil.

I'm really not on much though, only CB and Minox. oleyl/pg was just the vehicle for CB but I do know that another member on another forum tried oleyl/pg as well and said he was experiencing incredible shedding on it too, which my experience would only confirm that causes that. I also had the same side effects from it too; burning scalp, intense itching.

I've since dropped oleyl and am back on ethanol/pg to use for CB. Itching is GONE, scalp no longer burns and shedding during showers has decreased already. Now I just need to monitor shedding through out the day. So far, it has decreased but I'll know better in the coming weeks/months.

lol well, I guess ethanol/pg will be better to start with. Did you think that oleyl/pg was going to be better for some reason?

Man that is a lot of hairs you lose, and that's not counting the ones you missed. I remember grabbing my hair and pulling a little would grab some hairs, but not that many. Is most of your hair brittle? or are they usually pretty thick.

[GreyGhost1864]

Guys....just a few of here are nw5 or greater. You Norwood 1.5 and 2's think you can go to your juvenile hairline. So stupid. A mature Norwood 3 hairline is perfect. So you youngsters keep what you got and you will do just fine. No woman wants to sleep with a little boys hairline. Just my thoughts.
Ghost

[Hicks]

Guys....just a few of here are nw5 or greater. You Norwood 1.5 and 2's think you can go to your juvenile hairline. So stupid. A mature Norwood 3 hairline is perfect. So you youngsters keep what you got and you will do just fine. No woman wants to sleep with a little boys hairline. Just my thoughts.
Ghost

Do you drink a lot?

Your posts are funny

[DesperateOne]

Do you drink a lot?

Your posts are funny

Yeah I think he does drink, or maybe it's just meth. At any rate, everyone wants better relative to their situation, to him a nw3 would be awesome.

I am now questioning the value of coming to the forum so often.

[Thinning87]

Still none for me! I've been shedding pretty much constantly for the last two months.

I should report though, that with the level of dermarolling I've been doing, mainly harsh 'semi-wounding' which has caused some bleeding similarly to the effect of one of the youtube videos posted with the woman going across the guys face, I've been experiencing a massive SKIN shed. The wounds have been drastic enough that light scabs have appeared on my scalp which are breaking off in large chunks and look pretty damn gross. At the same time, I'm on Minoxidil twice a day on days where I dont dermaroll as well as being on CB between 1%-2% per day at 1ml of which for 4 days I used 0.9ml of PG and 0.1ml of Oleyl as the vehicle for CB.

Now, my scalp was itching like fcking crazy while using oleyl, and it increased the amount of shedding by the 4th day. It was also burning my scalp but I don't know how much damage it really did.

In any case, after the 4th day of oleyl I used the dermaroller more vigorously than ever and a couple days later I noticed a pretty bad shed, here's how it looks:



Thats after brushing my hair with my hands for about 1 minute. Insane huh?

Tough to say if thats from dermarolling, or from oleyl or from minox twice a day. I suspect its probably a combination of things but mostly at the hands of Oleyl.

I don't think this is bad. Shedding is a sign of hair growth cycle regulation as you know. I wonder if the wounding and therefore the production of new follicles in the new skin might explain them shedding.

[hellouser]

I don't think this is bad. Shedding is a sign of hair growth cycle regulation as you know. I wonder if the wounding and therefore the production of new follicles in the new skin might explain them shedding.

No clue, but I'm almost certain it was/is the Oleyl. That shit burns itches irritates the scalp like crazy after repeated use. With the massive shed, I'm expecting massive results.

[StayThick]

Still none for me! I've been shedding pretty much constantly for the last two months.

I should report though, that with the level of dermarolling I've been doing, mainly harsh 'semi-wounding' which has caused some bleeding similarly to the effect of one of the youtube videos posted with the woman going across the guys face, I've been experiencing a massive SKIN shed. The wounds have been drastic enough that light scabs have appeared on my scalp which are breaking off in large chunks and look pretty damn gross. At the same time, I'm on Minoxidil twice a day on days where I dont dermaroll as well as being on CB between 1%-2% per day at 1ml of which for 4 days I used 0.9ml of PG and 0.1ml of Oleyl as the vehicle for CB.

Now, my scalp was itching like fcking crazy while using oleyl, and it increased the amount of shedding by the 4th day. It was also burning my scalp but I don't know how much damage it really did.

In any case, after the 4th day of oleyl I used the dermaroller more vigorously than ever and a couple days later I noticed a pretty bad shed, here's how it looks:



Thats after brushing my hair with my hands for about 1 minute. Insane huh?

Tough to say if thats from dermarolling, or from oleyl or from minox twice a day. I suspect its probably a combination of things but mostly at the hands of Oleyl.

Not going to lie. That right there would scare the hell out of me. Hell is that a typical shed because in my opinion that is extremely excessive. I have never shed like that. Sweet god.

Not sure if a shed like that means regrowth, but man....this sucks. If your hair is shedding like that considering all the treatments you're on, then I feel there is no hope. Wish you the best though. I sincerely hope that is a positive sign of what's to come.