So how close are we to a new 'cure'

[moore]

Here's another one

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2012/09/science-getting-closer-curing-baldness/56715/

"Essentially, every hair follicle on your head produces a hair every two to six years and then lies dormant for a few weeks or months. For those who suffer from baldness, these follicles simply stop waking up over time. Then, a breakdown in communication stops new skin cells from becoming follicles -- they become regular skin cells instead"

No hair follicles form after birth
(aderansresearch.com - dermoday.com - dermpathmd.com)

"Hair development begins in the third fetal month. By the fifth month, lanugo (thin hair) covers the fetus. At 5 months, lanugo disappears from every area except the scalp and eyebrows where coarser hair replaces it. Vellus (a film of delicate hair) eventually covers the rest of the body. Terminal hair is the early coarse scalp and eyebrow hair and later armpit and genital hair that grow during puberty. No new hair follicles develop after birth."

I hate them so much.

anyway, if you haven't read it yet:
Hair!: Mankind's Historic Quest to End Baldness (Google eBook)

http://books.google.it/books?id=omYBD2Ncn4YC

[clandestine]

ah camon, let's be positive..
Anyway..

http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/baldness-gene.htm

"Because hair loss has no cure and is a matter of vanity..."

I hate them so much when they publish such bullsh1t.

No words, I swear to fvck.

[fred970]

Vanity? Most of us just want to look normal for our age.

[moore]

ah camon, let's be positive..
Anyway..

http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/baldness-gene.htm

"Because hair loss has no cure and is a matter of vanity..."

I hate them so much when they publish such bullsh1t.

[thechamp]

We are ****ed no cure comming

[Morbo]

I was actually talking about the latest Cotsarelis research article which was reported earlier this year and appeared on this forum quite a few times. I'm currently on my mobile, I'll link you that one tomorrow.

I was referring to these

http://elitedaily.com/news/world/baldness-cure-reverses-genetics-market-years/

http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/News_Releases/2012/03/hair/

From George Cotsarelis:
Thank you for your interest in our research. If you have hair loss, we recommend seeing a dermatologist, as there are other causes of hair loss and some treatments currently available.

We are not performing any clinical trials at this time. The findings from this study have not yet led to any clinical trials. Please refer to the National Institutes of Health clinical trial site clinicaltrials.gov for ongoing hair loss studies.

Some media outlets have inaccurately reported that a drug may be available in two years. To clarify, if everything goes well, a treatment could start being tested in clinical trials within 2 years. The time to market, were the clinical trial successful, is more difficult to predict, but could be several more years after that pending FDA approval.

This research would not have been possible without public and private grants. If you would like support biomedical research directly, please consider supporting Penn's Dermatology research.

[greatjob!]

What's up with all this hate for follica. We need them!

This is a hairloss forum, hate and speculation is what it does best...

[Thinning87]

What's up with all this hate for follica. We need them!

[Morbo]

False.

Here's a video evidence of him saying, word for word 'If everything goes perfectly, its possible that within a few years we'll have something thats available as a new treatment.'

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaLaMBHIdBs

Skip past to 2:15 minute mark.

This was back in either end of 2010 as the video was posted on January 2nd, 2011. Even the women after said we could have a treatment in 3-4 years. Yeah? Well, its August, 2013 and there's still nothing. So either its by end of next year or another failed promise.

Also, funny how Cotsarelis says he doesnt want the public to use a cheese grater... yeah no shit! LOL, because if the theory is true and works as he claims it does, we could dermaroll and wound ourselves leaving him and Follica's plans to die without a product to SELL to us.

I was actually talking about the latest Cotsarelis research article which was reported earlier this year and appeared on this forum quite a few times. I'm currently on my mobile, I'll link you that one tomorrow.

[Desmond84]

I love the name of this thread....wish it could happen sooner rather than later!

Hellouser whats happening with our public awareness idea? I just read that we have a chemist on board as well working on a solution for cb...thats awesome!

I just heard back from one of the uni's I applied to and one if the researchers seems fascinated by tsuji labs work... we're meeting up on 9th september to see if I can do my phD on it....fingers crossed

[hellouser]

Actually Cotsarelis went on record later on saying he was misquoted by the article, there were no medical trials (nor did he reach an agreement with pharmaceutical companies yet), and if there was it would still take at least 5 years.

Offcourse the first '2 year cure'-article was reported by pretty much every media outlet, the correction by maximum 2.��

Anyway it's probably still somewhere on this site.

False.

Here's a video evidence of him saying, word for word 'If everything goes perfectly, its possible that within a few years we'll have something thats available as a new treatment.'

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaLaMBHIdBs

Skip past to 2:15 minute mark.

This was back in either end of 2010 as the video was posted on January 2nd, 2011. Even the women after said we could have a treatment in 3-4 years. Yeah? Well, its August, 2013 and there's still nothing. So either its by end of next year or another failed promise.

Also, funny how Cotsarelis says he doesnt want the public to use a cheese grater... yeah no shit! LOL, because if the theory is true and works as he claims it does, we could dermaroll and wound ourselves leaving him and Follica's plans to die without a product to SELL to us.

[Morbo]

Actually Cotsarelis went on record later on saying he was misquoted by the article, there were no medical trials (nor did he reach an agreement with pharmaceutical companies yet), and if there was it would still take at least 5 years.

Offcourse the first '2 year cure'-article was reported by pretty much every media outlet, the correction by maximum 2.��

Anyway it's probably still somewhere on this site.

[BaldAndHairy]

A realistic approach from Cotsarelis would be far more appreciated rather than leading on and fooling every hair loss sufferer who's heard of him. Unless of course, you're contempt with 2 year promises?

Obviously, you haven't been around long enough to know about Cotsarelis, which is probably true seeing how you're new to the forum and only got 12 posts.

"Around long enough"???? This forum is nothing but speculation, spam, and desperation.

I've worked in research and let me tell you, it is very complicated. Every baldness drug on the market right now was discovered by accident. Cotsarelis is working from the science into treatment--"translational research"-- with actual medical knowledge. That is hard. Nature is complicated.

Trying to deliver a positive honest message here to people..just seems to be a bunch of whiners on this forum who are so smart they are willing to put their money into a defunct company that is selling its erlenmeyer flasks.

Read Cotsarelis' patents. They are going to make holes in your head at artful angles, insert growth factor-containing gel in said holes, and you will have new hair follicles grow.

Then, you can maintain your hair with a combinatinon of rogaine, bimatoprost, and CRTH2 antagonists. May be a lot more.

You should take a molecular biology class. Seriously. You will learn a lot. Also, work in a lab. You will learn.

[hellouser]

That's pretty sad. Dr. Cotsarelis is a widely published medical scientist. People don't go into it for fame or money. And he's working for you.

Like, imagine a kid with cancer saying "f!@# my doctors, they can't help me out anymore. God damn them"

Grow up.

A realistic approach from Cotsarelis would be far more appreciated rather than leading on and fooling every hair loss sufferer who's heard of him. Unless of course, you're contempt with 2 year promises?

Obviously, you haven't been around long enough to know about Cotsarelis, which is probably true seeing how you're new to the forum and only got 12 posts.

[greatjob!]

That's pretty sad. Dr. Cotsarelis is a widely published medical scientist. People don't go into it for fame or money. And he's working for you.

Like, imagine a kid with cancer saying "f!@# my doctors, they can't help me out anymore. God damn them"

Grow up.

Yeah really f*ck that guy! He has only completely changed the current knowledge on mpb and nearly every treatment in development is either directly or in directly a result of his research, f*cking asshole! LOL!

Seriously some of you guys need to up your dosage and stop being such little bitching drama queens. Just because you want something, like a cure for mpb, or you think it should be easy doesn't make it so, or bring it to fruition.

It's ironic that people sitting on their ass on a hairloss forum are so angry at the people who are actually doing something to make a cure or better treatment a reality.