So how close are we to a new 'cure'

[hellouser]

By saying something like that about propecia, it shows how stupid your thought process is. Propecia has changed lives and like any other drug there is side effects, some really bad but only to few people. You're on your way in becoming the next Joe from Staten Island, and because you have that sort of mentality... Sooner or later you will lose it all and have nothing to show for it. You don't have much time, I suggest you reflect.

More complacency.

The passiveness from so many of you is shameful. Makes me wonder why you'd even bother to come onto the forums if you've already got your miracle 'cure' from Propecia. If its good enough, live your life.

We're here in the cutting edge forum to find alternatives. If you want to brag about a 20 year old drug that isnt a cure, I suggest you do it elsewhere.

[DesperateOne]

I'm not betting on Nigam or Gho, in fact I have doubts about BOTH and the prices Gho is charging is a slap to the face of anyone suffering from AGA. Theyre not solutions, only supplements to a shitty bandaid thats known as propecia. I'm demanding a proper treatment right NOW. Not 10 years from now. And I'm sure as hell not going to be satisfied with propecia, that fvcking devils pill, still being on the market. It should have run its course a LONG time ago and we're supposed to still accept it?

NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

By saying something like that about propecia, it shows how stupid your thought process is. Propecia has changed lives and like any other drug there is side effects, some really bad but only to few people. You're on your way in becoming the next Joe from Staten Island, and because you have that sort of mentality... Sooner or later you will lose it all and have nothing to show for it. You don't have much time, I suggest you reflect.

[hellouser]

I don't quite get your logic or your Canadian reference, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Every other month there is some crazy new thread started and the "debate" begins. The militant attitude that some guys have on this forum is nutty.

What's wrong with focusing on reality and working with what we have today? Either come to terms with it like JJJrS, waste your life debating over Gho, Nigam and all the rest of the overhyped "cures", or treat your hair loss with the real options we have today. That's it! Ranting about things will not get you any closer to happiness and your time is just ticking away.

I'm not betting on Nigam or Gho, in fact I have doubts about BOTH and the prices Gho is charging is a slap to the face of anyone suffering from AGA. Theyre not solutions, only supplements to a shitty bandaid thats known as propecia. I'm demanding a proper treatment right NOW. Not 10 years from now. And I'm sure as hell not going to be satisfied with propecia, that fvcking devils pill, still being on the market. It should have run its course a LONG time ago and we're supposed to still accept it?

NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

[J_B_Davis]

2018-2020 its not so far, especially for all young guyz with nw 1-2, in 2020, i will have 28 so thats cool, and i will try everything to keep my hair until 2020 to enjoy my life as better as i can

That's a great attitude! Stay positive.

[bibz]

2018-2020 its not so far, especially for all young guyz with nw 1-2, in 2020, i will have 28 so thats cool, and i will try everything to keep my hair until 2020 to enjoy my life as better as i can

[J_B_Davis]

Because a superior alternative would then exist? Why should people meddle with a pill that has unknown long term side effects on your liver and short to permanent effects on your dick?

Its been 20 years since propecia was put on the market. Are you that complacent to think its perfectly fine that this SHIT is still sold without a superior alternative? You've got a very 'canadian' way of thinking... passive aggressive.. 'meh, what are you gonna do'.

That kind of lazy attitude will NEVER bring you a cure.

I don't quite get your logic or your Canadian reference, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Every other month there is some crazy new thread started and the "debate" begins. The militant attitude that some guys have on this forum is nutty.

What's wrong with focusing on reality and working with what we have today? Either come to terms with it like JJJrS, waste your life debating over Gho, Nigam and all the rest of the overhyped "cures", or treat your hair loss with the real options we have today. That's it! Ranting about things will not get you any closer to happiness and your time is just ticking away.

[Scientalk56]

I'm between a NW3V - NW4, still in my mid 20s, and began dealing with hairloss when I was 16/17 so I know first-hand that it's not easy, especially if you're young. Of course, life would be better with a full head of hair. But it's not the end of the world and a lot of people can make it into an even bigger problem than it actually is. It took me a while to get to the acceptance stage but eventually I did.

For a lot of people, like myself, there really is no other option. I'm not going to take chances with possible side-effects from fin. I'm not interested in getting a scar from a HT, especially with a limited donor supply and no way of halting my hairloss. So I can either complain about it on the forums or move on and deal with it.

Agree with every word...

[JJJJrS]

Being prepared to live a life with hair loss is so much easier said than done though. I mean, if you're an NW 1.5 or 2, then no one is even gonna notice. But if you're more than an NW4, it's gonna limit you in many facets of life and no one is eager to lead a limited life.

I'm between a NW3V - NW4, still in my mid 20s, and began dealing with hairloss when I was 16/17 so I know first-hand that it's not easy, especially if you're young. Of course, life would be better with a full head of hair. But it's not the end of the world and a lot of people can make it into an even bigger problem than it actually is. It took me a while to get to the acceptance stage but eventually I did.

For a lot of people, like myself, there really is no other option. I'm not going to take chances with possible side-effects from fin. I'm not interested in getting a scar from a HT, especially with a limited donor supply and no way of halting my hairloss. So I can either complain about it on the forums or move on and deal with it.

[hellouser]

But even if better treatments come along, why should someone who has stopped their hair loss on Propecia, not be able to continue the treatment if they choose to? Why should alternatives "banish" Propecia if it's working for people?

Because a superior alternative would then exist? Why should people meddle with a pill that has unknown long term side effects on your liver and short to permanent effects on your dick?

Its been 20 years since propecia was put on the market. Are you that complacent to think its perfectly fine that this SHIT is still sold without a superior alternative? You've got a very 'canadian' way of thinking... passive aggressive.. 'meh, what are you gonna do'.

That kind of lazy attitude will NEVER bring you a cure.

[J_B_Davis]

Youre skewing my words.

I was implying that propecia should be banished with a better alternative.

But even if better treatments come along, why should someone who has stopped their hair loss on Propecia, not be able to continue the treatment if they choose to? Why should alternatives "banish" Propecia if it's working for people?

[hellouser]

Makes a lot sense. So you would prefer that Propecia be off the market so that everyone could continue to suffer like you? What about the millions of men who have success with it? Should it be ripped away from them because you think it should't be on the market? Do you actually think that putting "pressure" on a scientist is going to do anything but make you look nuts?

Face the facts, Propecia, a few experimental things, hair transplants and wigs are all we have . You can spend every minute on this forum bitching about it, calling doctors lazy or whatever but it's not going to change anything. If you don't take Propecia, you will probably end up bald, it's as simple as that. You are not going to change that fact by crying about it.

Youre skewing my words.

I was implying that propecia should be banished with a better alternative.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

Being prepared to live a life with hair loss is so much easier said than done though. I mean, if you're an NW 1.5 or 2, then no one is even gonna notice. But if you're more than an NW4, it's gonna limit you in many facets of life and no one is eager to lead a limited life.

[JJJJrS]

Hey guys, the last episode of The Bald Truth was pretty much dedicated to Cutting Edge Treatments!!!

Spencer and Joe discussed treatments for over 45 minutes I think and the jist of it was that Spencer doesn't think that anything ground-breaking will be coming in the immediate future...My personal feeling was that he is seeing not much happening at least till 2018-2020!

Joe even mentioned at some point that in 1998, when they were fresh on the air and discussing upcoming treatments, they never thought they would have this same conversation in 2013 in terms of no ground breaking hair loss solutions! They are a bit shocked about it as well...

Looks like fins our best friend for some time to come

It's interesting how much things have changed in such a short time. Just 3-4 years ago we had ARI, Replicel, HSC, ACell, HST. There was a lot of optimism that at least one or two of these treatments would turn into viable, effective options to reverse hairloss. Fast forward to today and I have minimal hope for any of these treatments, which I would never have guessed would happen only a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot in the pipeline to get too excited about either, other than CB possibly or whatever Cotsarelis, Tsuji etc. can come up with.

I think the best advice Spencer gives in that video is to move on with your life. Stop waiting for a cure. It's unlikely anything is going to pop up anytime soon. If something does, then great, but be prepared to live your life with hairloss.

After losing a bit of hope with these treatments, I personally decided to buzz my hair. For years I thought I would look terrible with a really short haircut and that my hairloss would be even more accentuated, but it's really not bad at all and the lack of maintenance is great, particularly for someone who has used concealers for a while. I also kept myself in good shape, got a tan, and just mentally worked on accepting my hairloss and stopped caring what others may think about it. It's brought me a lot of relief and I'm no longer as emotionally invested in this. I'll still keep up with the news but it's no longer an obsession.

[J_B_Davis]

Can't fvcking believe this... 2013 and no cure. Someone, somehow, needs to put a LOT more pressure on Dr. Lauster. I won't be satisfied unless theres a treatment available SOON. Not 2030, not 2020.... NOW. None of you should be satisifed with the fact that Finasteride is still on the market.

Makes a lot sense. So you would prefer that Propecia be off the market so that everyone could continue to suffer like you? What about the millions of men who have success with it? Should it be ripped away from them because you think it should't be on the market? Do you actually think that putting "pressure" on a scientist is going to do anything but make you look nuts?

Face the facts, Propecia, a few experimental things, hair transplants and wigs are all we have . You can spend every minute on this forum bitching about it, calling doctors lazy or whatever but it's not going to change anything. If you don't take Propecia, you will probably end up bald, it's as simple as that. You are not going to change that fact by crying about it.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

Can't fvcking believe this... 2013 and no cure. Someone, somehow, needs to put a LOT more pressure on Dr. Lauster. I won't be satisfied unless theres a treatment available SOON. Not 2030, not 2020.... NOW. None of you should be satisifed with the fact that Finasteride is still on the market.

Really. Amen to that. I can't imagine taking finasteride and dealing with these side effects for 7 more years.