7th World Congress for Hair Research (2013)

[HARIRI]

Imagine Guys, A Finasteride product without sexual sides. It would be HEAVEN for us and will prevent us for having multiple HT surgeries especially for midscalp and crown. It would just be a Hairline thing! Propecia will lose buisness BIG TIME

[Pentarou]

It would be great if it will produced officially and be sold in every pharmacy in a reasonable price just like Rogaine. Lets wait and see.

As soon as this in in pharmacies legally, I'd switch from oral finasteride immediately. That extra scalp DHT inhibition = more hair. Or at least better maintenance. How is that not a good thing?

[clandestine]

The compound used to reduce systemic side effects for topical finasteride was hydroxypropyl-chitosan (HPCH) which is a film-forming agent, I think we should consider whether this would be an effective vehicle in the use of RU58841 in the reduction of systemic side effects and also to increase the efficacy at the scalp level (which it did for topical Finasteride).

Combining these two compounds COULD theoretically result in a fantastic topical to treat AGA, however, the main caveat is absorbtion, will the absorbtion of RU58841 be affected by the use of this vehicle?

Big post, important question.

[TravisB]

So, where are Histogen results?

[oppenheimer82]

The compound used to reduce systemic side effects for topical finasteride was hydroxypropyl-chitosan (HPCH) which is a film-forming agent, I think we should consider whether this would be an effective vehicle in the use of RU58841 in the reduction of systemic side effects and also to increase the efficacy at the scalp level (which it did for topical Finasteride).

Combining these two compounds COULD theoretically result in a fantastic topical to treat AGA, however, the main caveat is absorbtion, will the absorbtion of RU58841 be affected by the use of this vehicle?

very good question sir!

[clandestine]

The compound used to reduce systemic side effects for topical finasteride was hydroxypropyl-chitosan (HPCH) which is a film-forming agent, I think we should consider whether this would be an effective vehicle in the use of RU58841 in the reduction of systemic side effects and also to increase the efficacy at the scalp level (which it did for topical Finasteride).

Combining these two compounds COULD theoretically result in a fantastic topical to treat AGA, however, the main caveat is absorbtion, will the absorbtion of RU58841 be affected by the use of this vehicle?

Here it is online via shop:

http://vitivia.com/ecoformula.php

EcoFormula - Hydroxypropyl-Chitosan (HPCH) 1.0%

Some are considering incorporating into an RU regimen.

[MrBlonde]

Here it is online via shop:

http://vitivia.com/ecoformula.php

EcoFormula - Hydroxypropyl-Chitosan (HPCH) 1.0%

Some are considering incorporating into an RU regimen.

So now we have the agent that was used in topical Fin improving its DHT supression from 51% to 71%. Exisiting Fin an Ru effectiveness could be improved by using this in homebrews and reducing sides at the same time. A big big plus.

The absorbtion rate is the next caveat. If it improves fin by 20% isn't it a moot point? Whatever its loosing due to absorbtion is meaningless as its increasing the effectivness of what gets through so much more and knocking back the sides.

Isn't this a no brainer?

One more question, does this replace the vehicle altogether ie you mix your RU or Fin with this and nothing else or do you still need everclear etc???

[Conpecia]

Take a look at the patent, think it's posted a couple pages back by Dr. Nigam and explains the exact thing they used.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

any news from histogen?

[KJ1982]

any news from histogen?

No, not yet. I'm not sure when they're due to present. It could be any time between now and the end of the meeting(s) on the 11th May.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

cant wait , i am stressed , i am thinning all over on top nw 4 is comming(i am not sure ), i am desperate. please lets all prey it will come and save us soon

[KJ1982]

cant wait , i am stressed , i am thinning all over on top nw 4 is comming(i am not sure ), i am desperate. please lets all prey it will come and save us soon

As much as I would love a cure or treatment to come to market in the near future, it's not going to happen.

There's still much work to be done and it may be another couple of years or so at the very least until Histogen releases in Asian territories. In Western territories it will certainly be longer still due to tighter regulations, etc.

Of course, that's assuming that everything runs without incident or setback.

[Thinning87]

So, where are Histogen results?

any news from histogen?

This is the answer you are looking for. I posted it yesterday:

We know Histogen will make an announcement soon as they answered one of our forumers who emailed them (can't remember who) and mentioned they would have an update and a press release "within two months".

You should all know Histogen is also looking for a partner to continue funding research trials and later on launch the product. So long as they don't have a partner, we don't have a product.

Instead of freaking out about when they will release their phase 1/2A results ya'll need to relax and convey your energy into making money because guess what we know already Histogen works and we also know already it's not going to be the definitive cure. We also know it will come out in a few years from now and it will cost in between a HT and the current "FDA approved meds" so the best thing you can all do is start working hard and make sure you have 25K in your savings to spend on your hair in a few years.

[bananana]

This is the answer you are looking for. I posted it yesterday:

that was me. yes, they emailed me and told me to hold tight and wait for the results, they're still analyzing it.

[Pentarou]

Another thought on topical fin: it could potentially save hairlines fully intact, which oral fin is weak at doing.