50 grafts patch test in Vitro Hair Doubling as requested by GC @Dr. Nigam's

[UK_]

Here you show just again your incompetence ...

If Mr. Walt Disney doesn't have a problem with it - Dr. Gho could even market his HST procedure as "Mickey Mouse Transplantation". The scientific name for the HST technique is "Partial Longitudinal Follicular Unit Transplantation" (PL-FUT).
Do you also have a problem with this name/term??

Concerning that even FUE and FUT "are stemcell hair transplant... as they also carry the inherent stemcells with the follicles when transplnated at the recipient" - yeah, as the heart, liver, kidney and many other organs in the human body, the hair follicle IS also one of these ORGANS, even it is just very small. So if a surgeon is able to transplant just a part of the heart or liver or kidney OR hair follicle - would you still consider such a ("crazy") procedure as "organ transplant"??

No serious scientist out there would still call such a procedure "organ transplant".

Yes and before Histogen released their phase 2 trials which showed growth in temporal regions you were on the forums saying we might aswel invent a "liver stimulating complex".

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Than call it such a way hair transplant...why does im calls...stemcell transplant...this way even fue and fut are stemcell hair transplant... as they also carry the inherent stemcells with the follicles when transplnated at the recipient....

Here you show just again your incompetence ...

If Mr. Walt Disney doesn't have a problem with that - Dr. Gho could even market his HST procedure as "Mickey Mouse Transplantation". The scientific name for the HST technique is "Partial Longitudinal Follicular Unit Transplantation" (PL-FUT).
Do you also have a problem with this name/term??

Concerning that even FUE and FUT "are stemcell hair transplant... as they also carry the inherent stemcells with the follicles when transplnated at the recipient" - yeah, as the heart, liver, kidney and many other organs in the human body, the hair follicle IS also one of these ORGANS, even it is just very small. So if a surgeon is able to transplant just a part of the heart or liver or kidney OR hair follicle - would you still consider such a ("crazy") procedure as "organ transplant"??

No serious scientist out there would still call such a procedure "organ transplant".

[drnigams]

If you are ready to be neutral for some time...there will be shocking hews for you..regarding your question..my friend im..

Excuse me, but how do you know that Dr. Gho's preservation medium is unable to activate stem cells??

Did you ever try out his preservation medium? Did you steal it from his lab or what??

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It is the claim...but niether there does stemcell have any role in thier procedure ... neither their preservation medium even remotely can activate any stemcells...

Excuse me, but how do you know that Dr. Gho's preservation medium is unable to activate stem cells??

Did you ever try out his preservation medium? Did you steal it from his lab or what??

[drnigams]

Than call it such a way hair transplant...why does im calls...stemcell transplant...this way even fue and fut are stemcell hair transplant... as they also carry the inherent stemcells with the follicles when transplnated at the recipient....

And? What part of this don't you understand?
Is it "the way" how to do it you don't understand? lol

[Arashi]

It is the claim...but niether there does stemcell have any role in thier procedure ... neither their preservation medium even remotely can activate any stemcells...

I'm confused by the technology. I love it from the pratical point of view, the results, but the science is quite confusing at least to me

I'm off for today ..

[drnigams]

It is the claim...but niether there does stemcell have any role in thier procedure ... neither their preservation medium even remotely can activate any stemcells...

So basically what HASCI says is that a mixture of stem cells, hair and their activation medium can generate new grafts ? Is that it ?

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EP 1957092 B1
Abstract (text from WO2007061291A2)

A method is described for the reproduction of hair by removing hair in the anagen phase in such a way that the hair stem cells which are responsible for hair growth are still attached to the hair removed, bringing these into contact with extracellular matrix components or substitutes therefor, and implanting the hair in the scalp. The application of extracellular matrix components or substitutes therefor for the reproduction of hair is also described.

And? What part of this don't you understand?
Is it "the way" how to do it you don't understand? lol

So WHICH hair stem cells should be still attached to the hair you remove?
Right, those hair stem cells, which are responsible for har growth. lol

[Arashi]

So basically what HASCI says is that a mixture of stem cells, hair and their activation medium can generate new grafts ? Is that it ?

[drnigams]

EP 1957092 B1
Abstract (text from WO2007061291A2)

A method is described for the reproduction of hair by removing hair in the anagen phase in such a way that the hair stem cells which are responsible for hair growth are still attached to the hair removed, bringing these into contact with extracellular matrix components or substitutes therefor, and implanting the hair in the scalp. The application of extracellular matrix components or substitutes therefor for the reproduction of hair is also described.

Arashi is smart..just let everybody read it and say what do they claim from thier preservation medium...remember you cannot hide anythting when you submit a paent application for a process...and compare with all the rubbish im is talking.. to misguide the members...

[Arashi]

I'm getting quite a bit confused by reading that HASCI patent.

A graft contains follicles and follicles produce hair. I always was under the impression that the main idea of Gho's technology was that if you don't tranplant the whole graft but only a part, then both parts will regenerate using stem cells.

However reading that patent they're talking about transplanting the hair (the dead material), when stem cells are still connected to it and that these stem cells are activated by the medium and hence start growing new hairs ? I'm very confused here. How can stem cells generate hair ? Stem cells can generate grafts and follicles, which in turn can generate hair.

It's getting late here and am probably reading things wrong and should probably stop posting at this point See you tomorrow

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IM , just read was arashi is readind in the link provided by her..this needle thing is just about grafts harvesting or do you believe you can harvest stemcells with this...stick to the point in discussion..losers lose their temper when they have nothing to talk..

What an incompetent question ...seriously...

Is here anywhere a layman who believes that someone can extract with a special needle a part of these with markers labeled stem cells ...

http://www.hasci.com/en/science/ (scroll down to THE pic!)

... he found within hair follicles in previous studies? No?

[hellouser]

Oh, really?


Just because an idiot like you can't find the proper information - it doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.

Unnecessary and uncalled for.

[drnigams]

IM , just read was arashi is readind in the link provided by her..this needle thing is just about grafts harvesting or do you believe you can harvest stemcells with this...stick to the point in discussion..losers lose their temper when they have nothing to talk...it says method
Read it properly .of harvesting the hair for transplant ( not harvesting stemcells)

Oh, really?


Just because an idiot like you can't find the proper information - it doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.

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Does im bets on this...just google european patents by dr gho..there are few 2 to 3 such papers and you will find the following...
details about ecm like collagen ,laminin in preservation media to activate cd34+ stemcells in the extracted fu.
Roleof hdmc cell line in preservation medium,role of granulators like calcium chloride to speed up the activation process.
Nowhere as against the claim in their website the invention in the patent paper mentions that they extract stemcell by their triple wave needle.

Oh, really?


Just because an idiot like you can't find the proper information - it doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.