50 grafts patch test in Vitro Hair Doubling as requested by GC @Dr. Nigam's

[Ginkgo]

Ginkgo,
I will shortly open PATIENT INFORMATION ,COORDINATION(PRE&POST),AND RESULT FOLLOWUP office at london,should finalizewhen i visit london in 1st week of may2013.
Gradually i will talk to stemcell regulatory bodies and medical practice regulatory authorities on what can i use as boosters at recipient and what i won't be able to use.Meeting jahoda,the famous uk stemcell hair regen scientist will also clear regulatory issues.
We may do every thing thier ,but i don't think you will mind going to india,mumbai in the morning and come back by night flight or the next morning,and yes we will pay for your trip.This is to give you stemcell,growthfactor injections on newly bisected grafts at the recipient.
Imagine if one patient result is less than expected ,how will i be bashed up and my credibility can be destroyed.(although many of the members don't scrutinize others with the same yardstick,and just go be name,marketing,papers etc.)
So when i take a forum guy as my patient ...i will go that extra mile.
It would be amazing to compare in your case the HST results of your previous procedure provided you have taken good quality pics as required by GC.
Money is the least consideration for me from forums for atleast 3months with 5 independent documentations,those who are ready to document their case properly.On 23/24th april i am doing megasession of doubling and hm on a forum member.

Dr Nigram,

Thank you for the response, your promptness is refreshing!

It sounds as if London may only be a base for consultations rather than treatment in the initial instance? I wonder if your results from doubling without stemcell boosters/growth factors is comparable to HASCI, and could this therefore be available shortly in the UK? As others have mentioned I'm not sure how comfortable I am regarding long-term safety of certain injections, but I'm sure this could be proved over time.

Thanks

[didi]

Dr nigam,

we need procedure that will overcome HSTs limitations, (very small sessions spaced at least 9 months apart), for high NWs is just not practical...I mean, who can wait 6+ years to finish process...plus prices which are sky high, taking advantage of unlucky sufferers

Iron man will be 60 years old by the time he receives 10 000 hst grafts..no wonder he exibits psychopathic/anti-social behavior

[didi]

How abt opening clinic in Turkey, India will be too far to fly for some, not convinient

Dr nigam

you started doubling about 6 months ago

How many doubling procedures are you performing per day/week/month?

[drnigams]

IM,
Do you know ,inspite majority members asking me not to communicate with you,i am still.
Because you are biased and hardest possible critic and many a times without logic...yes sometimes the research papers you post saves my time,also more you post, more easily without being blamed as fellow colleague of a doctor i am forced to speak get easy chance to expose certain expects of a particular technique.
I will be most satisfied the day your scalp will filled up dense hair.Not multiple small sessions just to camou
flage baldness.
And take my word ...it will happen..!

Perhaps a "something procedure" for free if you allow Dr. Nigam to post fraudulent claims about your HST procedure - as in neversaynever's case:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11858

[drnigams]

Ginkgo,
I will shortly open PATIENT INFORMATION ,COORDINATION(PRE&POST),AND RESULT FOLLOWUP office at london,should finalizewhen i visit london in 1st week of may2013.
Gradually i will talk to stemcell regulatory bodies and medical practice regulatory authorities on what can i use as boosters at recipient and what i won't be able to use.Meeting jahoda,the famous uk stemcell hair regen scientist will also clear regulatory issues.
We may do every thing thier ,but i don't think you will mind going to india,mumbai in the morning and come back by night flight or the next morning,and yes we will pay for your trip.This is to give you stemcell,growthfactor injections on newly bisected grafts at the recipient.
Imagine if one patient result is less than expected ,how will i be bashed up and my credibility can be destroyed.(although many of the members don't scrutinize others with the same yardstick,and just go be name,marketing,papers etc.)
So when i take a forum guy as my patient ...i will go that extra mile.
It would be amazing to compare in your case the HST results of your previous procedure provided you have taken good quality pics as required by GC.
Money is the least consideration for me from forums for atleast 3months with 5 independent documentations,those who are ready to document their case properly.On 23/24th april i am doing megasession of doubling and hm on a forum member.
QUOTE=Ginkgo;114752]Hi,

After having one procedure with HASCI, i'm planning my next move which could be a second visit with them or a future alternative.

I've been following the development of this thread, and have found it informative and amusing in parts. Anyway I'm sure I read somewhere about Dr Nigams plan to open in UK but can't seem to locate it.

If someone or Dr Nigam could provide this information and what may be offered, that would be really appreciated. I understand that due to certain UK restrictions stem cell injections may not be possible and it could only be doubling?[/QUOTE]

[534623]

If someone or Dr Nigam could provide this information and what may be offered...

Perhaps a "something procedure" for free if you allow Dr. Nigam to post fraudulent claims about your HST procedure - as in neversaynever's case:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11858

[Ginkgo]

Hi,

After having one procedure with HASCI, i'm planning my next move which could be a second visit with them or a future alternative.

I've been following the development of this thread, and have found it informative and amusing in parts. Anyway I'm sure I read somewhere about Dr Nigams plan to open in UK but can't seem to locate it.

If someone or Dr Nigam could provide this information and what may be offered, that would be really appreciated. I understand that due to certain UK restrictions stem cell injections may not be possible and it could only be doubling?

[534623]

if NSN says, no regrowth, donor depleted it will be end of dr nigam...if he is happy, good yield+regeneration then it will be great

And then you will buy it - right?

Anyway, deleting all my previous posts - yeah, pretty good idea ...

[Arashi]

What happened to OBI?

NVN had some family issues , I dont think NSN has been bribed by dr nigam..even though they are both indians ..i beleive NSN result will be make or break for nigam

if NSN says, no regrowth, donor depleted it will be end of dr nigam...if he is happy, good yield+regeneration then it will be great

OBI's result would take 6 months to become visible according to Nigams, so we'd have to wait a few more months.

NSN had family issue's and I can understand he doesn't feel like visiting the forums a lot. But then again, he DID visit the forums to post comments and photo's of his birthmark. All we need is 5 minutes of his time to shoot and post a photo of his donor.

[didi]

What happened to OBI?

NVN had some family issues , I dont think NSN has been bribed by dr nigam..even though they are both indians ..i beleive NSN result will be make or break for nigam

if NSN says, no regrowth, donor depleted it will be end of dr nigam...if he is happy, good yield+regeneration then it will be great

[Arashi]

actually Ghos preservtion medium in not secret, its been published. Iron man can post ingredients of it

Gho makes it sound its all abt medium and he said in interview that FUE docs dont use that medium and yield is only 60%.
FUE drs use saline solution i think


You can publish an article yourself. Gho however got his articles published in the "British journal of Dermatology

This still doesnt mean sh1t, what does british journal know , they didnt test it??, they see interesting study and publish it, it doesnt mean it works as claimed
Spencer talked abt this issue on his last show.

Look, we can keep playing this yes/no game about pretty much everything. I'm not interested in it. I want to see SOLID proof. A picture of NSN's donor would be a good start and if, for reasons beyond me, NSN does not want to post that picture, then Dr Nigam should try to get his next patients to do just that. I find it stunning that after giving a patient $5000 discount on the price, for participating in a TEST, that all of a sudden the patient doesn't want to participate anymore.

Just show us proof. All the rest I don't care about.

[didi]

actually Ghos preservtion medium in not secret, its been published. Iron man can post ingredients of it

Gho makes it sound its all abt medium and he said in interview that FUE docs dont use that medium and yield is only 60%.
FUE drs use saline solution i think


You can publish an article yourself. Gho however got his articles published in the "British journal of Dermatology

This still doesnt mean sh1t, what does british journal know , they didnt test it??, they see interesting study and publish it, it doesnt mean it works as claimed
Spencer talked abt this issue on his last show.

[Arashi]

preservation medium is fertilizer which helps with growth in recipient area, thats my understanding... does it really help and to what degree it helps??

That's exactly my question and we both really are not in any position to make a good estimate about it. Even Dr Nigams isn't cause he doesn't know what's in it. Maybe it's just a bunch of crap. Maybe it isn't. I don't know and frankly I don't even care. We KNOW Gho's numbers. Now we want to find out Nigam's numbers. That's all.

as for publishing articles; it doesnt mean sh!t, spence said on his show tht anybody can publish anything, there are some good material and some rubish..

You can publish an article yourself. Gho however got his articles published in the "British journal of Dermatology". They won't publicize it if you just mail them a bunch of crap, you know that.

I'm just saying I find it very weird we haven't seen any scientific articles form this doctor in India who all of sudden supposedly is offering the very best technique in the world. Again, not saying it's imposisble but it does feed my skepticism. Hence again, just show us SOLID proof. A photo of NSN's donor would be a VERY VERY good beginning, I think we can all agree on that, right ?

[didi]

Maybe, maybe not. I haven't studied all this so I don't know how hard it is and how important his 'preservation medium' really is. All I do know is Gho publicized several scientific articles in peer magazines. We've seen NOTHING from Dr Nigams in the scientific world. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean he can't pull it off. Again, I'm not educated enough on the subject to make a good guess about it.

I'm just saying: show us SOLID proof.[/QUOTE]


preservation medium is fertilizer which helps with growth in recipient area, thats my understanding... does it really help and to what degree it helps?? ;
as for publishing articles; it doesnt mean sh!t, spence said on his show tht anybody can publish anything, there are some good material and some rubish..

[Arashi]

Cheat? You mean if he tried to fool us by implanting other hairs into the extraction sites around the birthmark? Sorry but that just doesnt sit right with me - it'd be too hard to pull off and far too obvious given how clear the images are.

No, it's really easy to pull that off. Just extract small portion of the skin and leave the grafts in tact, that's all.

Again, I want to make it clear: I am NOT suggesting he did this. But I AM suggesting that after the photoshopped pictures, I'm extremely skeptical and I want to see SOLID proof, like a photo of the whole area and not just the birthmark.

If Gho can produce 80% regeneration I dont see why other doctors cant do the same for a lower price.

Maybe, maybe not. I haven't studied all this so I don't know how hard it is and how important his 'preservation medium' really is. All I do know is Gho publicized several scientific articles in peer magazines. We've seen NOTHING from Dr Nigams in the scientific world. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean he can't pull it off. Again, I'm not educated enough on the subject to make a good guess about it.

I'm just saying: show us SOLID proof.