50 grafts patch test in Vitro Hair Doubling as requested by GC @Dr. Nigam's

**Arashi** · 04-07-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by didi

What happened to OBI?

NVN had some family issues , I dont think NSN has been bribed by dr nigam..even though they are both indians ..i beleive NSN result will be make or break for nigam

if NSN says, no regrowth, donor depleted it will be end of dr nigam...if he is happy, good yield+regeneration then it will be great

OBI's result would take 6 months to become visible according to Nigams, so we'd have to wait a few more months.

NSN had family issue's and I can understand he doesn't feel like visiting the forums a lot. But then again, he DID visit the forums to post comments and photo's of his birthmark. All we need is 5 minutes of his time to shoot and post a photo of his donor.

**534623** · 04-07-2013, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by didi

if NSN says, no regrowth, donor depleted it will be end of dr nigam...if he is happy, good yield+regeneration then it will be great

And then you will buy it - right?

Anyway, deleting all my previous posts - yeah, pretty good idea ...

**Ginkgo** · 04-07-2013, 04:29 PM

Hi,

After having one procedure with HASCI, i'm planning my next move which could be a second visit with them or a future alternative.

I've been following the development of this thread, and have found it informative and amusing in parts. Anyway I'm sure I read somewhere about Dr Nigams plan to open in UK but can't seem to locate it.

If someone or Dr Nigam could provide this information and what may be offered, that would be really appreciated. I understand that due to certain UK restrictions stem cell injections may not be possible and it could only be doubling?

**534623** · 04-07-2013, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by Ginkgo

If someone or Dr Nigam could provide this information and what may be offered...

Perhaps a "something procedure" for free if you allow Dr. Nigam to post fraudulent claims about your HST procedure - as in neversaynever's case:

Dr. Nigam's fraudulent claims about Dr. Gho's work - Bald Truth Talk - Hair Loss, Hair Transplant and Hair Restoration Community

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11858

And here is one of Dr. Nigam's extremely fraudulent claims about Dr. Gho's work... And here you can see in detail what Dr. Nigam, in fact, did in this photo: Dr. Nigam simply made lots of blue circles everywhere in an area behind neversaynever's ear - an area, which simply doesn't (naturally) have a high follicle density

**drnigams** · 04-08-2013, 01:08 AM

Ginkgo,
I will shortly open PATIENT INFORMATION ,COORDINATION(PRE&POST),AND RESULT FOLLOWUP office at london,should finalizewhen i visit london in 1st week of may2013.
Gradually i will talk to stemcell regulatory bodies and medical practice regulatory authorities on what can i use as boosters at recipient and what i won't be able to use.Meeting jahoda,the famous uk stemcell hair regen scientist will also clear regulatory issues.
We may do every thing thier ,but i don't think you will mind going to india,mumbai in the morning and come back by night flight or the next morning,and yes we will pay for your trip.This is to give you stemcell,growthfactor injections on newly bisected grafts at the recipient.
Imagine if one patient result is less than expected ,how will i be bashed up and my credibility can be destroyed.(although many of the members don't scrutinize others with the same yardstick,and just go be name,marketing,papers etc.)
So when i take a forum guy as my patient ...i will go that extra mile.
It would be amazing to compare in your case the HST results of your previous procedure provided you have taken good quality pics as required by GC.
Money is the least consideration for me from forums for atleast 3months with 5 independent documentations,those who are ready to document their case properly.On 23/24th april i am doing megasession of doubling and hm on a forum member.
QUOTE=Ginkgo;114752]Hi,

After having one procedure with HASCI, i'm planning my next move which could be a second visit with them or a future alternative.

I've been following the development of this thread, and have found it informative and amusing in parts. Anyway I'm sure I read somewhere about Dr Nigams plan to open in UK but can't seem to locate it.

If someone or Dr Nigam could provide this information and what may be offered, that would be really appreciated. I understand that due to certain UK restrictions stem cell injections may not be possible and it could only be doubling?[/QUOTE]

**drnigams** · 04-08-2013, 01:43 AM

IM,
Do you know ,inspite majority members asking me not to communicate with you,i am still.
Because you are biased and hardest possible critic and many a times without logic...yes sometimes the research papers you post saves my time,also more you post, more easily without being blamed as fellow colleague of a doctor i am forced to speak get easy chance to expose certain expects of a particular technique.
I will be most satisfied the day your scalp will filled up dense hair.Not multiple small sessions just to camou
flage baldness.
And take my word ...it will happen..!

Originally posted by 534623

Perhaps a "something procedure" for free if you allow Dr. Nigam to post fraudulent claims about your HST procedure - as in neversaynever's case:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11858

**didi** · 04-08-2013, 02:04 AM

How abt opening clinic in Turkey, India will be too far to fly for some, not convinient

Dr nigam

you started doubling about 6 months ago

How many doubling procedures are you performing per day/week/month?

**didi** · 04-08-2013, 02:13 AM

Dr nigam,

we need procedure that will overcome HSTs limitations, (very small sessions spaced at least 9 months apart), for high NWs is just not practical...I mean, who can wait 6+ years to finish process...plus prices which are sky high, taking advantage of unlucky sufferers

Iron man will be 60 years old by the time he receives 10 000 hst grafts..no wonder he exibits psychopathic/anti-social behavior

**Ginkgo** · 04-08-2013, 04:07 AM

Originally posted by drnigams

Ginkgo,
I will shortly open PATIENT INFORMATION ,COORDINATION(PRE&POST),AND RESULT FOLLOWUP office at london,should finalizewhen i visit london in 1st week of may2013.
Gradually i will talk to stemcell regulatory bodies and medical practice regulatory authorities on what can i use as boosters at recipient and what i won't be able to use.Meeting jahoda,the famous uk stemcell hair regen scientist will also clear regulatory issues.
We may do every thing thier ,but i don't think you will mind going to india,mumbai in the morning and come back by night flight or the next morning,and yes we will pay for your trip.This is to give you stemcell,growthfactor injections on newly bisected grafts at the recipient.
Imagine if one patient result is less than expected ,how will i be bashed up and my credibility can be destroyed.(although many of the members don't scrutinize others with the same yardstick,and just go be name,marketing,papers etc.)
So when i take a forum guy as my patient ...i will go that extra mile.
It would be amazing to compare in your case the HST results of your previous procedure provided you have taken good quality pics as required by GC.
Money is the least consideration for me from forums for atleast 3months with 5 independent documentations,those who are ready to document their case properly.On 23/24th april i am doing megasession of doubling and hm on a forum member.

Dr Nigram,

Thank you for the response, your promptness is refreshing!

It sounds as if London may only be a base for consultations rather than treatment in the initial instance? I wonder if your results from doubling without stemcell boosters/growth factors is comparable to HASCI, and could this therefore be available shortly in the UK? As others have mentioned I'm not sure how comfortable I am regarding long-term safety of certain injections, but I'm sure this could be proved over time.

Thanks

**drnigams** · 04-08-2013, 05:46 AM

Ginkgo,
Regarding ingredients of product used,
we explain and show international documentation and studies to the patient and FDA recommendationsof pros and cons for the patients who wants to know about it.
And after his consent we reduce or increase the products used for hm and doubling.
I have done it on myself ,my sister,there are lot of checks in place,any way what i am offering will be legal in next 5 years once aderans ,histogen and others get the clearance of regulatoy authorities.
Better than HASCI results at half because i have the advantage of dp cells and dp whic have no prob's regarding regulations, it's an innovative approach others will also offer shortly after visiting the forums.
But i would not go back into other techniques when we have better option,i am looking for blueseed.co.in which is outside usa international water border with open regulations.for usa market.This is the place for innovators.

=Ginkgo;114831]Dr Nigram,

Thank you for the response, your promptness is refreshing!

It sounds as if London may only be a base for consultations rather than treatment in the initial instance? I wonder if your results from doubling without stemcell boosters/growth factors is comparable to HASCI, and could this therefore be available shortly in the UK? As others have mentioned I'm not sure how comfortable I am regarding long-term safety of certain injections, but I'm sure this could be proved over time.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

**drnigams** · 04-08-2013, 06:50 AM

DIDI,I was there in turkey few months back,
I met few doctors and they will mail me regarding the regulations ,they had no idea what i wwas talking they were traditional fut/fue surgeons.
DIDI ,GC,arashiu,IM,
your comments required
on the patch test i am performing the day after
NAME of the procedure-STEMCELLS-PLUCK & IMPLANT ....the new MPB solution.
USP of the procedure--100% guarantee of donor regen,no punch,no needle use,no mark, donor,repeat use of donor in 1month,most cost effective.Conversion of nw7 to nw1/2 in 2 sessions i month apart each session of 3 to 4 days.
As you see in the picture before this is the picture of the same guy of 15 G patch test .

As you can see the safe donor area of most of the patient is spread between a length of 40 to 45 cm an average width of 8 cm.

That means we have total safe donor area of 320 to 360 sq cm.

Density of various people may range from 30 to 90 graft per sq cm at the safe donor area.

For Donor Density of 30 graft per sq cm patient we have access to 9600 graft and
For 40 graft per sq cm we have 12800
For 50 graft per sq cm 16000

Now since we are not even giving a pin prick at the donor but plucking the hair like eye brow (but yes in a special way with special equipment so that I should have at least 3 mm part of hair follicle from the skin surface under ultra sound guidance.

Even if we get 50% regeneration (Although i expect at least 70% regen at the recipient after refinement of technique) with addition of activated stem cells, DP Cells, DP, ECM, PRP, Growth factors. The plucked follicle will have bulge area of stem cells which are rich in CD 34 + stem cells and they can be considered as partial hair. The DP part which is missing in the plucked follicle will be compensated by DP cells and DP injection from the few body hair.

Like eye brow plucking where the donor cannot be damage I can easily pluck 4000 grafts per day and can implant at the recipient. Hence in 3 days we can have 12000 grafts. NW7 to NW2 lesser NW will require lesser time. With 50% regeneration the procedure can repeated after one month, the time when the donor grafts is re-visible again for plucking.

click below link to see enlarged close up of the above pic

http://www.drnigams.net/images/RTN/Measurement/Large/01.JPG