50 grafts patch test in Vitro Hair Doubling as requested by GC @Dr. Nigam's

[Arashi]

GC , you are right regarding human error when a surgeon does large procedure.
Will you similarly agree with that if i shave this guy(of course i hope i will be able to convince him)than you can clearly rule out the possibility of extraction from any other site ,since his case is only 7 days old ,any other mark of extraction will be visible.
Of course next week i am into next step forward with the next documentation with more improved version.

Shaving would already be a lot better proof. But I think it would be a truely solid case if you have your Dutch patient fly back within 1-2 days of extraction and let me meet up with him in the Netherlands the day after that. That would really be a solid case, far beyond shooting a video.

[drnigams]

GC , you are right regarding human error when a surgeon does large procedure.
Will you similarly agree with that if i shave this guy(of course i hope i will be able to convince him)than you can clearly rule out the possibility of extraction from any other site ,since his case is only 7 days old ,any other mark of extraction will be visible.
Of course next week i am into next step forward with the next documentation with more improved version.

Dr Nigam,

The reason why Arashi is finding the 15 graft test difficult to take as solid evidence is this:

Imagine those 15 extractions in the donor area are ALL transections.

Now imagine how EASY it would be to extract 15/30 hair grafts from ALL OVER the head on the same day 0. And then implant those 15/30 grafts from around the head into the recipient.

Later you show us video back combing the long hair, yes this is great, but nobody could ever see or be able to find 15 extractions in those long hairs.

Do you understand now?

I know it seems crazy that anybody would do this, probably Arashi and almost certainly myself don't really believe you would go to these lengths, however I need to be 100% sure, not 99.9% sure. This is the difference between a Yes and a No.

Even Didi your biggest fan is not convinced, surely this tells you everything you need to know!

Personally my other reason for being so doubtful is because 15 grafts for documentation is such a small number. Theoretically you can take your time with these 15 grafts in a pain staking way, however when your doing sessions of 2000 and your being less careful because each graft is not being scrutinised and analysed by the word, it's then I wonder how many will regrow in the donor and the success of the grafts in the recipient.

These are my reasons.

I honestly hope you can convince us all with larger documented procedures, which I'm sure you will in the coming weeks. Until then I don't believe there is anything to talk about on this.

[Arashi]

Dr Nigam,

The reason why Arashi is finding the 15 graft test difficult to take as solid evidence is this:

Imagine those 15 extractions in the donor area are ALL transections.

Now imagine how EASY it would be to extract 15/30 hair grafts from ALL OVER the head on the same day 0. And then implant those 15/30 grafts from around the head into the recipient.

Later you show us video back combing the long hair, yes this is great, but nobody could ever see or be able to find 15 extractions in those long hairs.

Do you understand now?

I know it seems crazy that anybody would do this, probably Arashi and almost certainly myself don't really believe you would go to these lengths, however I need to be 100% sure, not 99.9% sure. This is the difference between a Yes and a No.

Even Didi your biggest fan is not convinced, surely this tells you everything you need to know!

Personally my other reason for being so doubtful is because 15 grafts for documentation is such a small number. Theoretically you can take your time with these 15 grafts in a pain staking way, however when you doing sessions of 2000 and your being less careful because each grafts is not being scrutinised and analysed by the word, it's then I wonder how many will regrow in the donor and the success of the grafts in the recipient.

These are my reasons.

I honestly hope you can convince us all with larger documented procedures, which I'm sure you will in the coming weeks. Until then I don't believe there is anything to talk about on this.

Thanks for summing that up, GC, these are exactly my thoughts. And very good point regarding Didi.

[Arashi]

you gonna switch sides if its real?

How many times do I have to explain to you this is not a game. There are no 'sides'. If Dr Nigams can proof he has a therapy that's better than Gho's, I'm going to salute him for that and will speak only good of him. Why wouldn't I ? I really don't understand your point of view, like it's a game between Gho Vs nigam and there has to be a winner and loser or something.

[gc83uk]

Dr Nigam,

The reason why Arashi is finding the 15 graft test difficult to take as solid evidence is this:

Imagine those 15 extractions in the donor area are ALL transections.

Now imagine how EASY it would be to extract 15/30 hair grafts from ALL OVER the head on the same day 0. And then implant those 15/30 grafts from around the head into the recipient.

Later you show us video back combing the long hair, yes this is great, but nobody could ever see or be able to find 15 extractions in those long hairs.

Do you understand now?

I know it seems crazy that anybody would do this, probably Arashi and almost certainly myself don't really believe you would go to these lengths, however I need to be 100% sure, not 99.9% sure. This is the difference between a Yes and a No.

Even Didi your biggest fan is not convinced, surely this tells you everything you need to know!

Personally my other reason for being so doubtful is because 15 grafts for documentation is such a small number. Theoretically you can take your time with these 15 grafts in a pain staking way, however when your doing sessions of 2000 and your being less careful because each graft is not being scrutinised and analysed by the word, it's then I wonder how many will regrow in the donor and the success of the grafts in the recipient.

These are my reasons.

I honestly hope you can convince us all with larger documented procedures, which I'm sure you will in the coming weeks. Until then I don't believe there is anything to talk about on this.

[didi]

thats what we need, we gotta find that man.
if arashi says its all good ..it means dr nigam is legit

you gonna switch sides if its real?

[drnigams]

Didi, on 25th april the guy who is coming is from east asia and also a forum member, he agreed to document his case,he has done 2 to 3 transplants in the past.
The guy who enrolled today is a dutch, he is also a forum member,( not a random guy) he will confirm his dates ,he will come in may 2013.And fully aware of our conversations and ready to document.
Plus there are 6 more forum guys for next two months with confirmed bookings ,one from usa and one from canada, they are also forum members.
Most of them ready to document.How can i guarantee the quality of pics taken by them at their homes.

I can't put tattoo on them ,luckily nsn had a birth mark.
And it's already proven 90% regen around birth mark in his case, who is an independent member.


There is another forum

IM is Gho shill, arashi used to be fair and balanced poster then he changed for worse

constructive criticism is welcome but gho fanboys are getting paranoid these days


dr nigam

you gonna have some dutch man on 25th of april? what is he getting, test or full procedure? can you get him to post on this forum

[Arashi]

By the way, I'm thinking, if you can get some random guy from the Netherlands to come to your clinic for the test, have him fly back within 1-2 days after the test, I can meet up with this guy, check his scalp and verify everything is good. THAT should be solid proof then, and that's what we all want, right ?

[Arashi]

IM is Gho shill, arashi used to be fair and balanced poster then he changed for worse

constructive criticism is welcome but gho fanboys are getting paranoid these days

Are you on any medication ?

[didi]

IM is Gho shill, arashi used to be fair and balanced poster then he changed for worse

constructive criticism is welcome but gho fanboys are getting paranoid these days


dr nigam

you gonna have some dutch man on 25th of april? what is he getting, test or full procedure? can you get him to post on this forum

[Arashi]

Independent forum member is coming on 25th april2013, he is ready to document, he applied for indian visa the day before, but will u believe him or he will be scared away like what im did to the last forum member who did procedure with me.

IM didn't scare anybody away, haha, you really think NSN stops visiting these forums because of IM ? LIke you said, he lost a family member, had tons of work, so it's only logical he needs some time.

But about this new forum member, will I believe him ? It depends who it is of course.

Why is the guy from netherland coming all the way from to india , he is another forum member who took personal consultations with HST(mentioning the name courtsey your skepticism) and decided to come to us.

I'm not sure what you're saying here ?

[Arashi]

I said, when I get more proof i will go...

But why do you need more proof ? What's wrong with his current 15 graft test ? Can you explain that to me please ?

[didi]

I said, when I get more proof i will go...i never said i wanna be test mouse..

nigm is fair Dr ,he offers test for free..all you need to do is find ppl wlling to go to him...NSN did it...when nigam gets his man then arashi says 'dr nigam cheats, its his man, its all set up'...

show some respect

[drnigams]

Independent forum member is coming on 25th april2013, he is ready to document, he applied for indian visa the day before, but will u believe him or he will be scared away like what im did to the last forum member who did procedure with me.
It is natural sometimes i will doubt your intentions.
Why is the guy from netherland coming all the way from to india , he is another forum member who took personal consultations with HST(mentioning the name courtsey your skepticism) and decided to come to us.
If you desire i can show the the part below the graft extraction on video or just have a look at the guy all over the scalp, let him wash his hair on skype .
Criticise, doubt,but be logical and except others also sometimes if they are ready to go the extra mile to clear all your possible doubts directly face toi face with patient on skype...as you want.
Sorry ,i have a right to defend myself as you have the right to be skeptic and confuse others with or without intention with wierd imaginative skepticism.Don't feel bad ,what you give thy shall recieve.

I only watched your first video and saw you didn't comb the area below the extraction site. But even if you did: if you took 15 grafts divided all over the donor area and put a little of that pimple-hiding make-up over the extraction sites, then there's no way it would show visible on your video.

Fact is, you need an independent patient for us to believe you.

[Arashi]

Thought so, silence again.