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  • PatientlyWaiting
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1637

    Aderans is hair cloning right? So basically it caters towards the HT route?

    While HSC is an injection?

    I think Aderans can be more effective, but it seems to be going so slow, while HSC has shown more. Maybe i'm just misinformed.

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    • rdawg
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 996

      Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
      Aderans is hair cloning right? So basically it caters towards the HT route?

      While HSC is an injection?

      I think Aderans can be more effective, but it seems to be going so slow, while HSC has shown more. Maybe i'm just misinformed.
      The way I've read it, aderans is more of a much better version of finasteride, permanently making your hair immune to MPB(but not necessarily regrowing the hair that's already lost)

      It seems to be a great way to maintain, not necessarily gain, meaning it could be the perfect side treatment to HSC. As in, it provides the defense and HSC provides the offense, you might need both.

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      • DepressedByHairLoss
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 854

        Originally posted by rdawg
        The way I've read it, aderans is more of a much better version of finasteride, permanently making your hair immune to MPB(but not necessarily regrowing the hair that's already lost)

        It seems to be a great way to maintain, not necessarily gain, meaning it could be the perfect side treatment to HSC. As in, it provides the defense and HSC provides the offense, you might need both.
        I think that Aderans's whole purpose was to regrow hair as opposed to just simply make it resistant to baldness. I don't where these rumors that Aderans's goal was simply to maintain hair are coming from, because I don't think they're correct.

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        • rdawg
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 996

          Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
          I think that Aderans's whole purpose was to regrow hair as opposed to just simply make it resistant to baldness. I don't where these rumors that Aderans's goal was simply to maintain hair are coming from, because I don't think they're correct.
          That was their original purpose, but they have found out that it doesn't exactly do that.

          They figured out that only 60% of the balding population will respond(some kind of genetic marking that they check before)

          The most recent released results clearly show the product maintains more than gains, I didnt see any big gains in the pictures or information they released, simply that it will permanently stop baldness without any sides.

          That's not a bad thing as any alternative to fin is great, as well it could be very necessary along side a growth inducing product(Bim, Minoxidil, Histogen etc.)

          I'm just paraphrasing here, someone can correct me as I havent read up on this in a while

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          • Kirby_
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 439

            Any (real) alternative to fin wouldn't just be great, it'd be a freaking miracle!

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            • Assemblage23
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 197

              Originally posted by Kirby_
              Any (real) alternative to fin wouldn't just be great, it'd be a freaking miracle!
              Amen, if we can rely on a treatment that doesnt manipulate your hormones that would be fantastic but my guess is that Aderans and histogen will produce substancial regrowth but you'll still have to maintain with fin.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                Aderans has had one individual with 80% increase in terminal hair count. That is huge. Depending on who's going in for the treatment, it could potentially give all sorts of results.

                I'm so sick of this though... 2013 and still no cure to grow a f*cking hair follicle? We've traveled space, sent a man on the moon, made smart phones all of which are more powerful than what NASA used to send a man to the moon, beat cancer, Lance Armstrong doing it TWICE, found god particles at cern, made an atomic bomb thats killed hundreds of thousands of lives, cloned entire animals and even had a case of a child being cured of aids...

                And yet we're still THIS f*cking far behind growing a SIMPLE F*CKING FOLLICLE?!

                Are you kidding me?!?!

                Millions and BILLIONS of dollars are spent annually on arms, military, bombs, nuclear and biological weapons as well as defence... just imagine how much more advanced the human race would be had we not PISSED AWAY all that money, time and effort into something that improves the quality of life instead of something so incredibly f*cking useless as KILLING eachother.

                I swear to god, I'm so f*cking FURIOUS right now at the complete incompetence of man, I'm really tempted to go out and bitch slap every single person in sight and especially everyone and anyone who creates the notion that bald men are socially disadvantaged... BECAUSE WE ARE.

                F*ck this!!!!!

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                • garethbale
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 603

                  Seriously mate you are gonna make yourself ill going on like that. It is hugely frustrating that there are no really effective treatments out there but just be glad companies are working on bringing new treatments to market and advancements are being made in the HT field.

                  We all need to just occupy the time waiting for these with doing something constructive...hit the gym, study for a qualification, learn a language...

                  I am studying for my accountancy exams this summer and it does help as I literally don't have time to stress over hair loss!

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                  • Thinning87
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 839

                    Originally posted by garethbale
                    Seriously mate you are gonna make yourself ill going on like that. It is hugely frustrating that there are no really effective treatments out there but just be glad companies are working on bringing new treatments to market and advancements are being made in the HT field.

                    We all need to just occupy the time waiting for these with doing something constructive...hit the gym, study for a qualification, learn a language...

                    I am studying for my accountancy exams this summer and it does help as I literally don't have time to stress over hair loss!
                    Agreed. Work hard folks, put some money aside, and we should regain some hair in a few years and/or permanently block the hair loss.

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                    • PatientlyWaiting
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1637

                      Originally posted by rdawg
                      The way I've read it, aderans is more of a much better version of finasteride, permanently making your hair immune to MPB(but not necessarily regrowing the hair that's already lost)

                      It seems to be a great way to maintain, not necessarily gain, meaning it could be the perfect side treatment to HSC. As in, it provides the defense and HSC provides the offense, you might need both.
                      That's a waste of money for investors TBH. Can't believe anyone would invest in finasteride 2.0. For me it's all about results, not maintaining.I want regrowth, and i'm sure that is what the majority of people want. So if Aderans is all about maintaining, then it's a failure IMO. We're tired of "maintaining".

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                      • yeahyeahyeah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1776

                        Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                        That's a waste of money for investors TBH. Can't believe anyone would invest in finasteride 2.0. For me it's all about results, not maintaining.I want regrowth, and i'm sure that is what the majority of people want. So if Aderans is all about maintaining, then it's a failure IMO. We're tired of "maintaining".
                        I have a lot of hair - need to maintain it without using fin. So this would be good for me.

                        I can then get a HT to bring me back to a NW1

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                          I have a lot of hair - need to maintain it without using fin. So this would be good for me.

                          I can then get a HT to bring me back to a NW1
                          I'm in the same situation. If Aderans can maintain permanently and give some regrowth, I wouldnt need many grafts to get back to NW1-2; 1,500 around the hairline and another 1,500 for density everywhere else. That would basically make me look NORMAL.

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                          • stayhopeful
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 280

                            Ok. W T F is with this video? It's pretty much a de ja vu of replicel.... No freakin mention of a timeline? May as well just be an imagination. Unreal

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                            • Assemblage23
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 197

                              Yes many men would jump on the opportunity to quit fin for the same results.

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                              • UK Boy
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 240

                                For me it's not even about getting off fin but it's about Aderans hopefully being better than fin at stopping further loss, I'm hoping it'll be a more permanent fix or that if it does start to loose effectiveness then you just have a set of top-up injections. The higher norwoods forget that for a lot of people stopping hair loss in it's tracts would be a 'cure'. And think about all the young guys who haven't started balding yet but have norwood 6 & 7s in their family - this is like an inoculation for them. If it really works to prevent further loss it'll save billions of young men the misery that we've all suffered.

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