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  • neversaynever
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 640

    #61
    Originally posted by bananana
    Des, I wouldnt rule out nigam just yet - all the weirdness aside, he is far to persistant to be a snake oil (in my book at least).

    The more solutions - the merrier.
    I dont believe hes a fake, but he does need to step up with some form of evidence. Im hopeful of it, with a tiny pinch of salt.

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    • bananana
      Inactive
      • Feb 2012
      • 524

      #62
      Originally posted by neversaynever
      I dont believe hes a fake, but he does need to step up with some form of evidence. Im hopeful of it, with a tiny pinch of salt.
      Agreed mate.

      For those of you not following h4irsite, OBI is getting his shots today. From now on its a waiting game to see his progress.

      Sorry for hijacking this thread.
      I'm just feeling very positive since all these options appeared a few months back..

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      • Breaking Bald
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 598

        #63
        Ok then...I see things are back to normal

        Iron Maaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #64
          Originally posted by 534623
          Really? And you think when they start a clinical trail, around 100 trail subjects knock on the clinics door on the trail start day? Seems most guys are not even able to listen what exactly Washenik is saying in the video concerning this point, otherwise you losers wouldn't always argue and speculate about the same shit - and some losers don't even give you 10 seconds to edit a post.

          And now the best thing at all:
          Actually, wtf cares when or what they do - ARI's approach isn't really useful for anything. Or in more simpley words: You will definitely not get what you expect.

          I think you should bookmark this post - for later reference.
          Wow, how eloquent.

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          • Breaking Bald
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 598

            #65
            There is no way to reason with him, it only wants to argue, it's sole purpose in life is to lurk around this one section of the forum and never stray, like some crazy sort of mythological creature...hmmmm...A TROLL!!!!

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              #66
              Originally posted by Breaking Bald
              There is no way to reason with him, it only wants to argue, it's sole purpose in life is to lurk around this one section of the forum and never stray, like some crazy sort of mythological creature...hmmmm...A TROLL!!!!
              LOL! 10char

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              • UK Boy
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 240

                #67
                Originally posted by Breaking Bald
                There is no way to reason with him, it only wants to argue, it's sole purpose in life is to lurk around this one section of the forum and never stray, like some crazy sort of mythological creature...hmmmm...A TROLL!!!!
                Yeah well I'm not gonna bother anymore. To be honest I've been spending too much time on here recently and I don't wanna get like that, some sad loser with nothing else in his life, who spends hours of my time listening and re-listening to video clips and counting hairs in micro photographs. It's gonna be hard but I'm gonna quit using the site completely, everything on here turns into a stupid debate with Ironman, it's not gonna change unless he gets banned and even then he'll just come back with another name. I'm not gonna sink to his level and I ain't gonna become like him, I'm just gonna get on with my life and forget about this site.

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                • FearTheLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1581

                  #68
                  Originally posted by 534623
                  Really? And you think when they start a clinical trail, around 100 trail subjects knock on the clinics door on the trail start day? Seems most guys are not even able to listen what exactly Washenik is saying in the video concerning this point, otherwise you losers wouldn't always argue and speculate about the same shit - and some losers don't even give you 10 seconds to edit a post.

                  And now the best thing at all:
                  Actually, wtf cares when or what they do - ARI's approach isn't really useful for anything. Or in more simpley words: You will definitely not get what you expect.

                  I think you should bookmark this post - for later reference.
                  We aren't expecting Aderans next release to be anything extreme, but it will definitely be better than anything we have on the market now. It will be nice to get off propecia and use this stuff to hold what we have left.

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                  • didi
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1360

                    #69
                    excuse my ignorance, i dont follow aderans

                    are they going to deliver true hair multiplication to all patients/any density?

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      #70
                      I love the way Iron_Man spells the word trial.

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                      • FearTheLoss
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1581

                        #71
                        Originally posted by didi
                        excuse my ignorance, i dont follow aderans

                        are they going to deliver true hair multiplication to all patients/any density?
                        not from what we have seen from them so far, they are working for a permanent immunization of hair follicles to dht...so you won't ever lose anymore hair, in the future hair multiplication will be available (10 years probably) and that, essentially will be "the cure" to hairloss because doctors will be able to take a few hairs and make them into 15000 in the lab to cover any amount of loss

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                        • 534623
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1854

                          #72
                          Originally posted by FearTheLoss

                          not from what we have seen from them so far, they are working for a permanent immunization of hair follicles to dht...so you won't ever lose anymore hair...
                          That is not what they describe anywhere on their website ...



                          ARI is just infected by a currently circulating virus (it's easier to fake with it than with "brand new follicles from scratch" which simply do not grow properly!) - as described in my previous post.

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                          • StinkySmurf
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 124

                            #73
                            Originally posted by 534623
                            That is not what they describe anywhere on their website ...
                            The value proposition slide in the Nov mesa video says:

                            "Procedural treatment for long term personalized solution rather than ongoing maintenance therapy"

                            But they started Phase 2 only in 2008 so how could anyone know what happens 5 years after the procedure?

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                            • 534623
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1854

                              #74
                              Originally posted by StinkySmurf
                              The value proposition slide in the Nov mesa video says:

                              "Procedural treatment for long term personalized solution rather than ongoing maintenance therapy"

                              But they started Phase 2 only in 2008 so how could anyone know what happens 5 years after the procedure?
                              This video …



                              … contains Washenik’s presentation at the Louvres in Paris, France, on March 20, 2011 – so that’s just around 2 years ago.

                              At this meeting, Washenik didn’t talk about “rejuvenation of existing hair follicle structures” at all. He was just talking about the same old story – follicle neogenesis, aka “brand new follicles from scratch”. He even talked about the involved problems with the angle of new grown follicles/hairs etc etc and finally, about the clinical status of THIS approach.

                              So WHEN, in fact, did they start with the “rejuvenation” thingy at all?

                              In the mesa meeting video, he mentioned and showed also a case, where they injected cells EVERYWHERE in the whole tonsure/vertex area (not just sample sites) – right? And?

                              They have NO CLUE about any longtime effects!
                              ... if there are any 'moderate' effects at all.

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                              • garethbale
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 603

                                #75
                                Originally posted by 534623
                                That is not what they describe anywhere on their website ...



                                ARI is just infected by a currently circulating virus (it's easier to fake with it than with "brand new follicles from scratch" which simply do not grow properly!) - as described in my previous post.

                                What the hell are you on about you weirdo..haha!

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