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This video …
… contains Washenik’s presentation at the Louvres in Paris, France, on March 20, 2011 – so that’s just around 2 years ago.
At this meeting, Washenik didn’t talk about “rejuvenation of existing hair follicle structures” at all. He was just talking about the same old story – follicle neogenesis, aka “brand new follicles from scratch”. He even talked about the involved problems with the angle of new grown follicles/hairs etc etc and finally, about the clinical status of THIS approach.
So WHEN, in fact, did they start with the “rejuvenation” thingy at all?
In the mesa meeting video, he mentioned and showed also a case, where they injected cells EVERYWHERE in the whole tonsure/vertex area (not just sample sites) – right? And?
They have NO CLUE about any longtime effects!
... if there are any 'moderate' effects at all.
Folks, stay patient and cautiously optimistic. In the meantime, cut it short if you still have something, or shave it all off. Or keep up with your regimen, whatever. Just move on with your life, and don't end up like this 5436 guy.Comment
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8:30 onwards:
"On the left there was no hair and on the right there is hair".
Aderans are working on the development of NEW HAIRS where there previously were none, otherwise 90% of their target market will not be interested (NW3,4,5,6 AND 7).
Their procedure is behaving as it should be: regenerating minaturized follicles and also inducing the growth of entirely new hair follicles.Comment
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_JH...ature=youtu.be
8:30 onwards:
"On the left there was no hair and on the right there is hair".
Aderans are working on the development of NEW HAIRS where there previously were none, otherwise 90% of their target market will not be interested (NW3,4,5,6 AND 7).
Their procedure is behaving as it should be: regenerating minaturized follicles and also inducing the growth of entirely new hair follicles.Comment
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If they are immunizing follicles and that is only working for 60% of patients then what's the point? Most people have full frontal hair loss in the temples even if they are NW3/4 let alone people who are NW7 and have little/zero adequate donor hair for a transplant.
And what happened to their Phase II update in February???Comment
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_JH...ature=youtu.be
8:30 onwards:
"On the left there was no hair and on the right there is hair".
Aderans are working on the development of NEW HAIRS where there previously were none, otherwise 90% of their target market will not be interested (NW3,4,5,6 AND 7).
Their procedure is behaving as it should be: regenerating minaturized follicles and also inducing the growth of entirely new hair follicles.
I must admit that listening to this again it is better than I originally thought. At first I was thinking that they were only rejuvinating miniturized HAIRS but now I realise it's miniturized FOLLICLES it seems better but still not 100% it's that good :0$Comment
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Not trying to cause arguements but Dr. Washnik himself says that they are NOT creating entirely new follicles. Go to around 5:35 of the MESA presentation, this is where he talks about it. They originally hoped to create totally new follicles but the model didn't translate well from mouse to human (Big surprise, lol!). Anywayz he says that they're rejuvinating miniturized follicles so this is why there appears to be hairs where no hairs were before, because the miniturized follicles where "turned back on" in order to start producing hairs again.
I must admit that listening to this again it is better than I originally thought. At first I was thinking that they were only rejuvinating miniturized HAIRS but now I realise it's miniturized FOLLICLES it seems better but still not 100% it's that good :0$
Will they only be able to rejuvinate follicles where hair still grows, like existing treatments, or will they be able to work on slick bald areas as well?Comment
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Not 100% sure, I'm just getting the info from the presentation video. He says the cells in their mixture intercalate into existing hair follicle structures and re- programme then or 'turn them back on' for hair growth. So going purely by what he says they should be able to produce hairs in bald areas where there's no hair as long as there is a hair follicle structure that can be turned back on.Comment
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Clandestine is right, anything I say is mere speculation, I myself am rather confused as to how some have stated they are not growing new hair follicles (just "immunizing") as opposed to follicular negenesis (growing new hair follicles).
If they are immunizing follicles and that is only working for 60% of patients then what's the point? Most people have full frontal hair loss in the temples even if they are NW3/4 let alone people who are NW7 and have little/zero adequate donor hair for a transplant.
And what happened to their Phase II update in February???Comment
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Histogen say they expect an announcement of results in the next couple of months, so perhaps April is realisticComment
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