Aderans hopefully soon

[garethbale]

That is not what they describe anywhere on their website ...

http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_science.html

ARI is just infected by a currently circulating virus (it's easier to fake with it than with "brand new follicles from scratch" which simply do not grow properly!) - as described in my previous post.

What the hell are you on about you weirdo..haha!

[534623]

The value proposition slide in the Nov mesa video says:

"Procedural treatment for long term personalized solution rather than ongoing maintenance therapy"

But they started Phase 2 only in 2008 so how could anyone know what happens 5 years after the procedure?

This video …

http://youtu.be/2oQYjppOPJM

… contains Washenik’s presentation at the Louvres in Paris, France, on March 20, 2011 – so that’s just around 2 years ago.

At this meeting, Washenik didn’t talk about “rejuvenation of existing hair follicle structures” at all. He was just talking about the same old story – follicle neogenesis, aka “brand new follicles from scratch”. He even talked about the involved problems with the angle of new grown follicles/hairs etc etc and finally, about the clinical status of THIS approach.

So WHEN, in fact, did they start with the “rejuvenation” thingy at all?

In the mesa meeting video, he mentioned and showed also a case, where they injected cells EVERYWHERE in the whole tonsure/vertex area (not just sample sites) – right? And?

They have NO CLUE about any longtime effects!
... if there are any 'moderate' effects at all.

[StinkySmurf]

That is not what they describe anywhere on their website ...

The value proposition slide in the Nov mesa video says:

"Procedural treatment for long term personalized solution rather than ongoing maintenance therapy"

But they started Phase 2 only in 2008 so how could anyone know what happens 5 years after the procedure?

[534623]

not from what we have seen from them so far, they are working for a permanent immunization of hair follicles to dht...so you won't ever lose anymore hair...

That is not what they describe anywhere on their website ...

http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_science.html

ARI is just infected by a currently circulating virus (it's easier to fake with it than with "brand new follicles from scratch" which simply do not grow properly!) - as described in my previous post.

[FearTheLoss]

excuse my ignorance, i dont follow aderans

are they going to deliver true hair multiplication to all patients/any density?

not from what we have seen from them so far, they are working for a permanent immunization of hair follicles to dht...so you won't ever lose anymore hair, in the future hair multiplication will be available (10 years probably) and that, essentially will be "the cure" to hairloss because doctors will be able to take a few hairs and make them into 15000 in the lab to cover any amount of loss

[UK_]

I love the way Iron_Man spells the word trial.

[didi]

excuse my ignorance, i dont follow aderans

are they going to deliver true hair multiplication to all patients/any density?

[FearTheLoss]

Really? And you think when they start a clinical trail, around 100 trail subjects knock on the clinics door on the trail start day? Seems most guys are not even able to listen what exactly Washenik is saying in the video concerning this point, otherwise you losers wouldn't always argue and speculate about the same shit - and some losers don't even give you 10 seconds to edit a post.

And now the best thing at all:
Actually, wtf cares when or what they do - ARI's approach isn't really useful for anything. Or in more simpley words: You will definitely not get what you expect.

I think you should bookmark this post - for later reference.

We aren't expecting Aderans next release to be anything extreme, but it will definitely be better than anything we have on the market now. It will be nice to get off propecia and use this stuff to hold what we have left.

[UK Boy]

There is no way to reason with him, it only wants to argue, it's sole purpose in life is to lurk around this one section of the forum and never stray, like some crazy sort of mythological creature...hmmmm...A TROLL!!!!

Yeah well I'm not gonna bother anymore. To be honest I've been spending too much time on here recently and I don't wanna get like that, some sad loser with nothing else in his life, who spends hours of my time listening and re-listening to video clips and counting hairs in micro photographs. It's gonna be hard but I'm gonna quit using the site completely, everything on here turns into a stupid debate with Ironman, it's not gonna change unless he gets banned and even then he'll just come back with another name. I'm not gonna sink to his level and I ain't gonna become like him, I'm just gonna get on with my life and forget about this site.

[hellouser]

There is no way to reason with him, it only wants to argue, it's sole purpose in life is to lurk around this one section of the forum and never stray, like some crazy sort of mythological creature...hmmmm...A TROLL!!!!

LOL! 10char

[Breaking Bald]

There is no way to reason with him, it only wants to argue, it's sole purpose in life is to lurk around this one section of the forum and never stray, like some crazy sort of mythological creature...hmmmm...A TROLL!!!!

[hellouser]

Really? And you think when they start a clinical trail, around 100 trail subjects knock on the clinics door on the trail start day? Seems most guys are not even able to listen what exactly Washenik is saying in the video concerning this point, otherwise you losers wouldn't always argue and speculate about the same shit - and some losers don't even give you 10 seconds to edit a post.

And now the best thing at all:
Actually, wtf cares when or what they do - ARI's approach isn't really useful for anything. Or in more simpley words: You will definitely not get what you expect.

I think you should bookmark this post - for later reference.

Wow, how eloquent.

[Breaking Bald]

Ok then...I see things are back to normal

Iron Maaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!

[bananana]

I dont believe hes a fake, but he does need to step up with some form of evidence. Im hopeful of it, with a tiny pinch of salt.

Agreed mate.

For those of you not following h4irsite, OBI is getting his shots today. From now on its a waiting game to see his progress.

Sorry for hijacking this thread.
I'm just feeling very positive since all these options appeared a few months back..

[neversaynever]

Des, I wouldnt rule out nigam just yet - all the weirdness aside, he is far to persistant to be a snake oil (in my book at least).

The more solutions - the merrier.

I dont believe hes a fake, but he does need to step up with some form of evidence. Im hopeful of it, with a tiny pinch of salt.