ACell, a Current Review of Applications in Hair Transplant Surgery

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  • UK_
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    Originally posted by Kiwi
    Whatever floats your boat man. This thread should be renamed;

    ACell, a repetitive conversation between Richard and UK.
    But that still fails to address the substance behind my post, nobody on here can prove to me that Dr Cole's statement was an inaccurate one, NOBODY, not you not him not me - NOBODY.

    That's how pointless this discussion really is, I just find it hilarious that nobody on this board can even see that.

    "“The medical research we are performing is important because it may lead to hair multiplication as a way to increase a person’s supply of donor hair. "

    This still does not refute Dr Cole's statement, but offers the ONLY hope of it ever being answered there is still no evidence for Acell/Hair Cloning but thank the LORD OF ALL HEAVENS we finally have a bloody controlled study into this!

    This is all I want to see!!!!


    "Controlled studies are the best way to increase the objectivity of the research and insure the validity of the results."

    ...What ive been saying all along, and the fundamental basis that Dr Coles comment rests upon; SHOW ME THE SCIENCE.

    Also covered here:



    This does look promising, I am so pleased to finally see a controlled study into Acell!

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  • Kiwi
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    Originally posted by Gubter_87
    Yeah seriously guys just lay off now. You have already ruined pages and pages of this thread, hopefully it'll be able to recover. But we're all sick of your pointless bantering, so please for this threads sake just stop. Continue over PM, if you really can't hold off.
    lol - actually the administrators could probably delete pages 15-50 of this thread without any great loss to the community of this website.

    +1 - I also vote that any further debating is taken to personal messages

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  • Kiwi
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    Cheers Rich. I agree, it is good to see more docs jumping on the band wagon. It means that the science is at worst, worth exploring more, at least from a personal investment point of view. (in the sense that these docs are investing their own time and money on it)

    At best sometime in the future hopefully this tech improves our donor area significantly - sadly, in my opinion, I've run out of donor hair to be a test candidate. So I am going to wait until there are hundreds of before / after shots online before I take the risk.

    In the meantime I'm saving for another procedure. I'm looking to get another 2-3K FUE implants. Unless Histogen invite me to be one of their guinea pigs :P

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  • Gubter_87
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    Yeah seriously guys just lay off now. You have already ruined pages and pages of this thread, hopefully it'll be able to recover. But we're all sick of your pointless bantering, so please for this threads sake just stop. Continue over PM, if you really can't hold off.

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  • plopp
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    Great find Rich! Always nice to have another top doc on the team

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  • RichardDawkins
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    So how about Dr Cole remains "accurate"

    Here is another link from Dr Bernstein, he seems confident and he pursues plucking WTF but i was under the impression that "Where is the science" was more important then go for it. Anyways guys here is a link i hope you enjoy this



    qUK please stop with insulting people you keep the hate flames burning when they were almost gone

    @Kiwi : I hope that this Link is something which floats your boat :-) and please dont name me in one sentence with the person UK this seems to insult me ;-)

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  • Kiwi
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    Oh and for the record I don't give a crap about who is right or wrong. I just want to read what the pros have to say about Acell. And I don't want to read your banter, caps lock ridden argumentative crap. From either of you.

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  • Kiwi
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    Whatever floats your boat man. This thread should be renamed;

    ACell, a repetitive conversation between Richard and UK.

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  • UK_
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    Originally posted by Kiwi
    I think both you guys have hearts in the right place, well UK seems like a pain in the backside, kinda antagonistic, to the point where he either has no life or just wants to push your buttons.
    +1
    Tell you what, go back and read the comments you blind insipid fool, all I stated was that Dr Coles comment remains accurate, can you read that? THAT IS ALL I SAID - and I wasnt directly talking to ANY of you other people on this board, it was an open comment, can you prove it wrong? Can any of you on this board refute Dr Coles comment?

    That was my ONLY point, his comment remains accurate, anything else is utterly erroneous, understand that it was not me who responded to RichardDawkins - HE RESPONDED TO ME.

    In other words, if you dont want the hassle, dont start attacking people an cry an moan later on when they retaliate.

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PROVE DR COLE WRONG AND I WILL PROCLAIM YOU AND YOUR HOARD OF NEGATIVITY POLICE ENTIRELY RIGHT.

    UNTIL THEN... I AM RIGHT .

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  • thejack
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    Yes definately the input is good, but the back and forth bickering ruins it unfortunately

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  • RichardDawkins
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    Yes you guys are right. My apologies but i still hope some people found at least somethings interesting

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  • thejack
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    I think both you guys have hearts in the right place, well UK seems like a pain in the backside, kinda antagonistic, to the point where he either has no life or just wants to push your buttons.

    But quite frankly you've both hijacked this thread and since UK started ranting... No more useful information from the doc.

    Thanks a bunch.

    +1

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  • Kiwi
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    Shhhhh

    I think both you guys have hearts in the right place, well UK seems like a pain in the backside, kinda antagonistic, to the point where he either has no life or just wants to push your buttons.

    But quite frankly you've both hijacked this thread and since UK started ranting... No more useful information from the doc.

    Thanks a bunch.

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  • RichardDawkins
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    EVERY patient with succesful results is relevant. I mean you talk about stuff like you know everything but in reality you make assumptions without even using your brain. You just speak about stuff others gave away in bits for you to chew.

    Its always easy to say "it doesnt work, where is the science" but then it should be very very very very easy for Dr Cole to backup his claims.

    I read his stuff again and most of the times he is using "theoretical constructs"

    I am harping about this patient because THIS patient crumbles Dr Coles statement, where he didnt refer to till today. I think its really odd when other clinic reps admit in public that they belive in the huge potential but some fine adjustement has to be done.

    Thats the difference between a troll and provoking person like you and someone who tries to show a serious balanced point of view. From my standpoint, as long as i read into hm stuff, most of the things have actually occured like i predicted or was thinking about them. The only thing which strikes me was the fact that plucked hairs works, i wanst expecting something like this.

    Where are Dr Coles statements now? He never came back to them but in his forum people are happy with Acell results, they discuss vividly body hair and Acell etc, and those people seem to be more optimistic then i ever will be.

    You can really shut your trap when it comes to stuff YOU think is relevant or not, because you dont have to deceide what is relevant and whats not, you catch my drift?

    It answeres Dr Coles statement, he wanna see the science, the science is that ir worked on the scar of a patient. And that plucked hairs regrow is just a so common fact that almost everybody knows this ( strangely Dr Cole didnt agree with that).

    No, you are only trolling around and dont try to bring in something valuable here, you can only insult people. As someone said, you called people "Retards" in the TRX2 thread.

    Isnt that what the hairsite user Lerroy.Jenkins said to people? Seems to me that actually you are the person Leeroy.Jenkins.

    I think if Dr Cole is so vividly against the whole Acell concept he should just try to reproduce the idea and if it doesnt work he can say "it doesnt work" but only saying " Where is the science" is to me like an discusseion where someone brings up "nazi germany" only to end a discussion.

    Dr Hitzig and Dr Cooley provid the public with informations on how and what is possible and can be done, now its up to others to put this "myth" to the test.

    While other people come up with new ideas, you stick with one sentence the whole time, which clearly shows that you are not only ignorant, but naive.

    If Dr Cole would be right, then it would also be impossible to transplant hearts or any other organ. And also hair transplants in general wouldnt be possible.

    I won´t refer to his argument, until he has proven to everyone that this whole concept is nor working. Dont hate the player, hat the game

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  • UK_
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    Originally posted by RichardDawkins
    Where are Dr Coles arguments now? Does he back them up? No but he uses Acell on patients.

    One patient got plucked hairs in his scar, so it workes clearly. What science do you need.

    Even if i would be picky i would say its 1 : 1 on Cole statement vs one patient who got it done. You see your agenda is beginning to bore me, and you still refer to me instead of you "i will ignore you now".
    That still does not answer to Dr Cole's statement, you keep harping on about this scar patient as if it is your only dictum of hope in this crumbling shed of an argument you laboriously maintain.

    *sigh*...In other words... the scar patient is not adequate/relevant in answering the real substance of Dr Coles comment, I can post it again if you wanna have another read.

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