Hairloss in brothers

[Tracy C]

Btw, both You and me - we were right about propecia all along.

No you were not.

[sausage]

Btw, both You and me - we were right about propecia all along.
Here is the latest article about the 'proven' drug. Turns out propecia does much better in causing permanent sexual impotence, cancer and depression than it does treat the hairloss.. and look at the website propecia.com - they've disabled their own website, saying damaged people to complain to FDA..

http://www.examiner.com/courts-in-ba...#ixzz1mLgDjzw3

I don't really know what to think about propecia and all that crap.

I can only guess that not many men use those products as I still see balding men everywhere.

Maybe cos its too expensive, or cos they don't want to risk any of those horrendous side effects.

I started taking something 9 years ago, I cannot remember what it was, I bought it online, it was possibly fake but I spent £300 on it, what a waste of money that was. I could not do with the expense at the time being a student and I could not be bothered popping pills everyday.

I thought to myself, if this really works a lot less people would be bald, so I never bothered with it, and never will.

60%+ of men will save their hair according to those pills if they take them.

But why does nobody take the bleeding things?

[StressedToTheBald]

I don't really know what to think about propecia and all that crap.

I can only guess that not many men use those products as I still see balding men everywhere.

Maybe cos its too expensive, or cos they don't want to risk any of those horrendous side effects.

I started taking something 9 years ago, I cannot remember what it was, I bought it online, it was possibly fake but I spent £300 on it, what a waste of money that was. I could not do with the expense at the time being a student and I could not be bothered popping pills everyday.

I thought to myself, if this really works a lot less people would be bald, so I never bothered with it, and never will.

60%+ of men will save their hair according to those pills if they take them.

But why does nobody take the bleeding things?

Well, for one - the worst thing about it is that one is required to trade the potential of more hair with the potential of permanent impotence, depression or cancer. These risks are real and serious, yet many still gamble and end up on the loosing side.

Its not miraculous cure by any chance. It doesn't work with all people. And with those where it works - people can take this drug 1+ or 2+ years and although they achieve better density, they don't restore full density.

The price is a rip off too. 1 bottle costs nearly 100$. I mean its 1200$ per year, in 10 years one spends 12,000 dollars - better save up that and do a transplant or whatever.

The drug is also so 'proven' that one has to use it for life ! Yes, lifetime, otherwise baldness reappears !

The greatest recent disgrace - manufacturer Merck has disabled their own website propecia.com. With top 2 US Universities studies, professors and MDs finally speaking out what this drug really is and what it does - including permanent ED, cancer and depression.. its just a matter of time before everyone becomes informed and this drug will become history.. where it belongs, it deserves everything but the title 'the only proven baldness drug'.. Its repulsive how paid and unpaid propecia promoters praise and advertise this drug - even here on this forum ! And people who are desperate accept it without even checking the facts and reality - only to end up badly damaged and impotent for life. Imagine trying to cure Your baldness.. and ending up impotent with no way to fix it !

[25 going on 65]

Btw, both You and me - we were right about propecia all along.
Here is the latest article about the 'proven' drug. Turns out propecia does much better in causing permanent sexual impotence, cancer and depression than it does treat the hairloss.. and look at the website propecia.com - they've disabled their own website, saying damaged people to complain to FDA..

http://www.examiner.com/courts-in-ba...#ixzz1mLgDjzw3

This latest scare tactic can be ignored.

http://www.thebaldtruth.com/hair-loss/spencer-kobren-speaks-with-michael-irwig-post-finasteride-syndrom/

[Tracy C]

I can only guess that not many men use those products as I still see balding men everywhere.

60%+ of men will save their hair according to those pills if they take them.

But why does nobody take the bleeding things?

I realize this may be difficult for you to accept but believe it or not many (possibly most) men are totally O.K. with being bald. The last stats I read showed that less than 10% of balding men are bothered enough by their hair loss to try treating it. That is not very many. Most men I know in my personal life are totally fine with being bald.

[sausage]

I realize this may be difficult for you to accept but believe it or not many (possibly most) men are totally O.K. with being bald. The last stats I read showed that less than 10% of balding men are bothered enough by their hair loss to try treating it. That is not very many. Most men I know in my personal life are totally fine with being bald.

Well thats a load of rubbish, no1 wants to be bald.

Who in this world would choose to go bald, no1 would.

If god offered a man £100,000 to suddenly be bald forever, no1 except very poor people would do that. People would not choose to go bald for £1million.

That 10% stat may be true but its not low cos men are not bothered by it, they are bothered by it but there are no convincing treatments out there, nor can people afford Hair transplants and Hair Transplants themselves have a bad reputation generally.

If there was something out there that cost under £1000 that was simple and easy to do that you only have to do once that got your hair back permanently EVERY man out there would be seeking treatment.

Its the current treatments that are the problem.

[DAVE52]

Well thats a load of rubbish, no1 wants to be bald.

Who in this world would choose to go bald, no1 would..

You have to understand that not everyone is affected by hair loss like those of us that come to this site for support.

To some people , it happens , and they deal / accept it and move on with their life. They are not all consumed by their hair loss

Some of us , and I am one of them , it psychologically f*cks s up

Google search

Sly bald guys

It is a very good site if you are looking for support in accepting your hairloss by means other than surgery, pills and or potions ...........in otherwords buzzing your head

[Tracy C]

Well thats a load of rubbish...

No it isn't. I told you it would be difficult for your to accept - but it is the truth. I have absolutely no reason or motivation to lie to you.

Who in this world would choose to go bald, no1 would.

Choosing to be bald and being able to accept that you will be bald are not the same thing. Your response here indicates that you feel they are the same. They are not the same. Many (possibly most) men are able to accept it.

That 10% stat may be true but its not low cos men are not bothered by it...

Some men do not want to invest the time to treat it - even if their hair loss bothers them. Some men do not want to or are unbable to invest the money to treat it - even if their hair loss bothers them. Some men simply do not want to be bothered with treating it - even if there hair loss bothers them. Some men are simply not bothered enough by their hair loss to be bothered with treating it. Not every balding man is as bothered by his hair loss as you are. Only a small fraction of balding men are bothered enough by their hair loss to try to do something about it.

If there was something out there that cost under £1000 that was simple and easy to do that you only have to do once that got your hair back permanently EVERY man out there would be seeking treatment.

Maybe. We won't know for sure until such a thing actually exist.

Its the current treatments that are the problem.

This is true to some degree - but not to the degree you think it is. Treating hair loss is a pain in the butt. No argument there. But really, it is not as much of a pain in the butt as you want to make it out to be.

[StressedToTheBald]

Well thats a load of rubbish, no1 wants to be bald.

Who in this world would choose to go bald, no1 would.

If god offered a man £100,000 to suddenly be bald forever, no1 except very poor people would do that. People would not choose to go bald for £1million.

That 10% stat may be true but its not low cos men are not bothered by it, they are bothered by it but there are no convincing treatments out there, nor can people afford Hair transplants and Hair Transplants themselves have a bad reputation generally.

If there was something out there that cost under £1000 that was simple and easy to do that you only have to do once that got your hair back permanently EVERY man out there would be seeking treatment.

Its the current treatments that are the problem.

I agree. And its usually people who have full set of hairs who claim that they wouldn't care if they would end up bald like we are. The fact is, its not the same, it hurts and one also has to be a man to admit that baldness kills selfconfidence. Its usually expected from us guys to act tough.. so few would dare go out in public and talk about their baldness related feelings, but just because people don't speak about it publicly - it doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt them or they wouldn't like a cure for this condition.

And very true also, that the current treatments are a load of balls to be honest. They are either utterly unsafe & health hazard like propecia or require a fortune like HT. Either way, nothing easy, affordable or straightforward !

I hope propecia gets officially banned. It deserves to get ditched out of the market for so many reasons - first beeing the fact that it ruined the life of thousands. Its a man-poison as one guy said at another thread, and now when all the cards are out and 2 university studies gone public - manufacturer has taken down its own website ! I hope all the damaged people to gather around and sue them for the every single penny they've made on this 'proven drug'..

As for the HTs.. Not even the expensive transplants are straightforward enough. One might pay a fortune and end up with poor results. And even more importantly - profits again come before anything. Ordinary people, even in the developed world are struggling to afford the enormous costs that transplant surgeons demand. Not to mention the sad cases like myself who are born poor and live in poor countries, for us transplant still exists only as a distant dream and wishful thinking !

[Tracy C]

StressedToTheBald,

You are without question the most misinformed person in this forum. You are doing a great disservice the members of this forum. You should just go away.

[Maradona]

I agree. And its usually people who have full set of hairs who claim that they wouldn't care if they would end up bald like we are. The fact is, its not the same, it hurts and one also has to be a man to admit that baldness kills selfconfidence. Its usually expected from us guys to act tough.. so few would dare go out in public and talk about their baldness related feelings, but just because people don't speak about it publicly - it doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt them or they wouldn't like a cure for this condition.

And very true also, that the current treatments are a load of balls to be honest. They are either utterly unsafe & health hazard like propecia or require a fortune like HT. Either way, nothing easy, affordable or straightforward !

I hope propecia gets officially banned. It deserves to get ditched out of the market for so many reasons - first beeing the fact that it ruined the life of thousands. Its a man-poison as one guy said at another thread, and now when all the cards are out and 2 university studies gone public - manufacturer has taken down its own website ! I hope all the damaged people to gather around and sue them for the every single penny they've made on this 'proven drug'..

As for the HTs.. Not even the expensive transplants are straightforward enough. One might pay a fortune and end up with poor results. And even more importantly - profits again come before anything. Ordinary people, even in the developed world are struggling to afford the enormous costs that transplant surgeons demand. Not to mention the sad cases like myself who are born poor and live in poor countries, for us transplant still exists only as a distant dream and wishful thinking !

I kinda agree with ya man but propecia does work for most people with no side effects. I am not one of them but propecia is like playing russian roulette, the problem is the number of people that get shot from propecia is so small it will stay on the market for A LONG TIME.

its like 1 out of 1000, for permanent f'd up side effects.

[sausage]

No it isn't. I told you it would be difficult for your to accept - but it is the truth. I have absolutely no reason or motivation to lie to you.

I'll re-quote what you said:

I realize this may be difficult for you to accept but believe it or not many (possibly most) men are totally O.K. with being bald. The last stats I read showed that less than 10% of balding men are bothered enough by their hair loss to try treating it. That is not very many. Most men I know in my personal life are totally fine with being bald.

1. Just because 10% of balding men choose to do something about it DOES NOT mean the other 90% have accepted being bald.

2. As I said its nothing to do with men being bothered by it, its the fact there is nothing out there good enough to treat it.

3. If 9 of my friends started balding today according to you all 9 of them would accept it and be happy about it. That is definately not right. There is no chance any of my friends would be 'totally fine' with going bald. Absolutely no chance. Especially one of them who looks at himself in the mirror 24/7.

[Tracy C]

I'll re-quote what you said:

You are ignoring reality.

[StressedToTheBald]

I kinda agree with ya man but propecia does work for most people with no side effects. I am not one of them but propecia is like playing russian roulette, the problem is the number of people that get shot from propecia is so small it will stay on the market for A LONG TIME.

its like 1 out of 1000, for permanent f'd up side effects.

Propecia is a health hazard. I've been telling it all along and sadly I was right all along. Its official now, two top 2 US Universities studies are out, Boston and Washington, Dr. Traish and Dr. Irwig have exposed the hazards of propecia. Percentages of side effects are much higher than presented by Merck ! And its not just temporary side effects, both doctors are pointing out to permanent ED, and the drug is also linked to cancer and depression. Merck website is down and lawyers are preparing for first class lawsuits ! People will be pressing charges all over the place.. and I for can't blame them.. by now its probably thousands whose lives have been ruined by propecia.

http://www.examiner.com/courts-in-baltimore/doctors-link-hair-growth-drug-to-sexual-dysfunction-depression-and-cancer#ixzz1mLgDjzw3

This drug is finished. The news is out there and soon everyone will know. Merck will soon be forced to pay damages and settlements, its now in the legal system and theres no way back. I'm glad this man-poison as one guy called it is finally going to see its final hours.

[2020]

Propecia is a health hazard. I've been telling it all along and sadly I was right all along. Its official now, two top 2 US Universities studies are out, Boston and Washington, Dr. Traish and Dr. Irwig have exposed the hazards of propecia. Percentages of side effects are much higher than presented by Merck ! And its not just temporary side effects, both doctors are pointing out to permanent ED, and the drug is also linked to cancer and depression. Merck website is down and lawyers are preparing for first class lawsuits ! People will be pressing charges all over the place.. and I for can't blame them.. by now its probably thousands whose lives have been ruined by propecia.

http://www.examiner.com/courts-in-ba...#ixzz1mLgDjzw3

**** off....