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  • sausage
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1063

    #46
    The only thing that worries me about the scar is in the time after surgery when having long hair will make me look stupid and having short hair will show the scar, if there is something out there that will cover the scar up during the time inbetween surgery and the new hairs coming through that would be ideal.

    I think now that I have forced myself to look in the mirror I am gradually getting used to my baldness, I still hate the way it makes me look, as I said before I need to grow it out to take some more photos for a surgeon to look at which is not a good look as my hair is thin. I would like to shave it down to a grade 0 and see how that looks. I will look a lot better with grade 0 and I probably should bulk my muscles up too.

    Good luck with your medication routine. I'd like you to keep me updated with that.

    With me, I am still waiting for answers to questions I have asked surgeons, will send them a few more photos, see what they say, then I will grade 0 my hair and make a decision on surgery or not.

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    • sausage
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1063

      #47
      Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
      Interesting picture .. 3,000 grafts :
      http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/album.p...pictureid=2563
      Yep, looks very good, I need a lot more than that though.

      Thats by Feriduni who I was hoping to hear from, He was the first surgeon I sent my consultation to but have heard nothing from him after 2 weeks, its very disappointing.


      One other thing that is making me really want a HT is the fact my receding hairline where I have gone completely bald at the temples is sooooo sensitive to temperature, a lot of the time I really notice it, it feels like I have cold tingling on these areas, do you get this?

      Its sooooooo frustrating.

      I also hate how when I frown you can clearly see where my hair used to be, you can see the edge of where my hairline used to be.

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      • StressedToTheBald
        Inactive
        • Jan 2012
        • 452

        #48
        Originally posted by sausage
        The only thing that worries me about the scar is in the time after surgery when having long hair will make me look stupid and having short hair will show the scar, if there is something out there that will cover the scar up during the time inbetween surgery and the new hairs coming through that would be ideal.
        I'd worry much more about the scarring. You can easily google up people who had to undergo another procedure just to cover the scar. Worst case scenario - if keloid forms, keloids look absolutely repulsive. And there is no such thing as invisible scar - even with the best surgeon in the world.

        There are ways to cover up the scar, well to some degree at least, but I don't recommend it. Plus You'd have to put the stuff at least once daily.. There are scar consealers, for example: http://www.colortration.com But with this, it would much harder to apply without leaving a trace on Your hair as well ! Plus if a scar is raised and not just discoloured.. trust me, You're gonna have a hard time hiding it.

        Originally posted by sausage
        Good luck with your medication routine. I'd like you to keep me updated with that.
        Thanks, I will, same to You with HT, I'd like to stay informed too, even if its not something I can afford right now, if I ever do it in the future - its good to learn from the experience of others.

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        • StressedToTheBald
          Inactive
          • Jan 2012
          • 452

          #49
          Originally posted by sausage
          Yep, looks very good, I need a lot more than that though.

          Thats by Feriduni who I was hoping to hear from, He was the first surgeon I sent my consultation to but have heard nothing from him after 2 weeks, its very disappointing.
          Well that guy seems very bald in the front ! To be honest I think he might be even worse than me, although he has no balding crown - I have a problem with that as well.

          That is dissapointing. I way trying to find Feriduini website - he doesn't even seem to have a website - which is surprising to say the least !

          Originally posted by sausage
          One other thing that is making me really want a HT is the fact my receding hairline where I have gone completely bald at the temples is sooooo sensitive to temperature, a lot of the time I really notice it, it feels like I have cold tingling on these areas, do you get this?
          No, not really. I only hate the way it looks like. I never really had a strong hairline in the front to begin with, I guess I must have started balding very very early in my life. I'd be much less unhappy if my crown was all right.. this way it feels like I have a double balding problem.. it somehow feels like a have to invest double efforts to face or regrow both my front and frontal hairlines.

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          • sausage
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1063

            #50
            Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
            I'd worry much more about the scarring. You can easily google up people who had to undergo another procedure just to cover the scar. Worst case scenario - if keloid forms, keloids look absolutely repulsive. And there is no such thing as invisible scar - even with the best surgeon in the world.

            There are ways to cover up the scar, well to some degree at least, but I don't recommend it. Plus You'd have to put the stuff at least once daily.. There are scar consealers, for example: http://www.colortration.com But with this, it would much harder to apply without leaving a trace on Your hair as well ! Plus if a scar is raised and not just discoloured.. trust me, You're gonna have a hard time hiding it.
            People that undergo more treatment to cover up the scar are people that want to keep their hair short. I am going to keep my hair long enough to cover any scar and if I did want to one-day fill in the scar then that would be no problem as I doubt it costs that much. I don't think the scar itself shows, its the fact that where the scar is the hair does not blend in, so your left with a line of missing hair. So scar concealers are not really what I am after, I need something that will fill in that thin bald line somehow. I have just read that Dermatch, a hairloss concealer can work.

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            • sausage
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1063

              #51
              Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
              That is dissapointing. I way trying to find Feriduini website - he doesn't even seem to have a website - which is surprising to say the least !


              Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
              No, not really. I only hate the way it looks like.
              Your lucky, I cannot stand the sensitivity of it, it drive me nuts.

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              • StressedToTheBald
                Inactive
                • Jan 2012
                • 452

                #52
                Yes thats it. Although it doesn't seem very much updates. Under prices info.. it still dated back fro 2009. and no prices are actually shown.

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                • sausage
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1063

                  #53
                  Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
                  Yes thats it. Although it doesn't seem very much updates. Under prices info.. it still dated back fro 2009. and no prices are actually shown.
                  Exactly what I thought.....it looks dated, the photos on their look dated, the whole website is poorly designed. Yet Feriduni is supposed to be one of the top surgeons.

                  It is very concerning this clinic would take no care whatsoever in marketing their website.

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                  • StressedToTheBald
                    Inactive
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 452

                    #54
                    Originally posted by sausage
                    Exactly what I thought.....it looks dated, the photos on their look dated, the whole website is poorly designed. Yet Feriduni is supposed to be one of the top surgeons.

                    It is very concerning this clinic would take no care whatsoever in marketing their website.
                    One can only be cautios. I hope the procedure quality doesn't follow the quality and freshness of the website. And You said You haven't received an answer for a long time - that would probably make me think twice - I mean if they haven't got the time for patients - what do they have time for ? I get it that surgeon is busy or doesn't want to bother sitting in front of the computer 24/7, but hey, with all the huge money beeing made, is it really that hard to hire a good consultant who will pay respect to potential patients and also give a timely response !

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                    • sausage
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1063

                      #55
                      Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
                      One can only be cautios. I hope the procedure quality doesn't follow the quality and freshness of the website. And You said You haven't received an answer for a long time - that would probably make me think twice - I mean if they haven't got the time for patients - what do they have time for ? I get it that surgeon is busy or doesn't want to bother sitting in front of the computer 24/7, but hey, with all the huge money beeing made, is it really that hard to hire a good consultant who will pay respect to potential patients and also give a timely response !
                      I have been told by someone on here that recently had a HT with Feriduni, that exactly the same thing happend to him, and he recommended I emailed the clinic, which I will be doing once my hair has grown a bit and I can take some photos to send over.

                      This HT research etc. is taking time, I have learn't a lot but getting answers to questions can be pretty hard. I am still trying to understand what can be done for me within my £15,000 budget both via FUE and by FUT.

                      Again every time I think about FUT I cringe and I doubt I could go through with it, I am desperate to get my hair back as it has ruined my life but I still have my limits and FUT is probably going too far. Its all down to these new photos and what the surgeons make of them I guess, then I can finalise a decision.

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                      • StressedToTheBald
                        Inactive
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 452

                        #56
                        FUT's a killer, not for me, even if I had money. Surgeons like to cut stuff.. none of them I believe became hair surgeon first - they were previously cutting in other areas and at some point became hair surgeons. Wouldn't let anyone carve a square on the back of my head, even for hair loss, there are limits, and too much is too much.

                        I think I have some tiny hairs growing just below my receding hairlines.. I'm still roughly in my first month - I've read 6 months is a minimum, or up to 12 recommended for results to be visible. If my progress is further developing by passing of each month, the efforts would be worth it, even if I don't get significant density in a year - if I develop new hairs and push the hairline at least half an inch lower to where it should be.. it would pay off in the long run..

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                        • sausage
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1063

                          #57
                          Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
                          FUT's a killer, not for me, even if I had money. Surgeons like to cut stuff.. none of them I believe became hair surgeon first - they were previously cutting in other areas and at some point became hair surgeons. Wouldn't let anyone carve a square on the back of my head, even for hair loss, there are limits, and too much is too much.

                          I think I have some tiny hairs growing just below my receding hairlines.. I'm still roughly in my first month - I've read 6 months is a minimum, or up to 12 recommended for results to be visible. If my progress is further developing by passing of each month, the efforts would be worth it, even if I don't get significant density in a year - if I develop new hairs and push the hairline at least half an inch lower to where it should be.. it would pay off in the long run..
                          Where did you get your hair restoration regimen from?

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                          • StressedToTheBald
                            Inactive
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 452

                            #58
                            Originally posted by sausage
                            Where did you get your hair restoration regimen from?
                            I've spent huge amount of time researching on-line.
                            By doing so I've gathered the best of resources, information, studies..

                            DHT=Cause of baldness
                            Stop DHT=Stop baldness
                            Propecia/Finasteride/Dutasteride=Anti-DHT but with potential serious risks
                            Solution=Natural DHT & 5-Alpha Reductase inhibitors
                            Time=Even with drugs treatment takes 6+ months, 1+ years, 2+ years

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                            • folliclefollies
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 2

                              #59
                              DNA/genetics are not rational or fair, it's just luck. My several years older brother has literally no hair loss whatever, and I have rapidly expanding crown balding, etc. In the last 6 months, it's accelerated on steriods. He has no issues at all.

                              In fact, my vertex is already in worse shape in just a few years than my well into his 90's maternal grandfather, and father.

                              MPB is caused by DHT sensitive follicles which are determined by birth or before. If you do not possess the genetics, you escape, even with lots of DHT in your scalp.

                              Age is obviously not much relevant, despite the public opinion associating baldness with advancing years. It's genetics, the time of follicle failure, degree of ultimate Norwood scale depth, and rate once it starts. You cannot control it, it's not fair, etc.

                              I have young face, etc. and up until the past 5 years if you put my brother up against me and asked a stranger which was older, they would have said him. Now if you see my crown, you'd hear folks assume he was younger, despite the years he's in front of me.

                              Sucks, but it's reality and totally unfair.

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                              • StressedToTheBald
                                Inactive
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 452

                                #60
                                Its true, we inherit hairs that are not resistant to DHT. And people with healthy, full set of hairs, they also have DHT but their hairs are resistant so they'll never get bald, they have no reason to worry about. Its very unfair reality - that we are so much marked by something that is programmed in advance, something we can't influence !

                                All the info is the genes, but as we cannot fix genes(maybe in decades they'll invent some kind of gene altering although I don't know if this is going to be a safe thing to do), there is only one solution - stop DHT. We can block DHT by blocking 5-alpha reductase (enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT) or by blocking androgen receptors - cells that act as keylocks for DHT.

                                Propecia works by blocking DHT but it carries a dangerous side effects.
                                Other stuff in nature are proven to block DHT.. BUT without side effects and these I am using - my current regiment incorporates 510mg of beta sitosterol, 300mg of saw palmetto etc..

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