Hairloss in brothers

[StressedToTheBald]

Back to the original post, my younger brother is 19 going on 20, and I can see a similar pattern forming in his crown. I probably started about the same age. I haven't had the heart to tell him yet. I'm hoping his girlfriend or someone else will notice first.

Maybe its more fair to tell him. I mean I wish I had someone to warn me early on. If he doesn't mind about his hair thats a different issue, but if he does - its gonna be easier to fight the problem early on.

And I truly believe that any woman worth your time or effort will not give a damn about your hair (just like my brother's girl won't, just like the girl I just started seeing doesn't). In fact, I see bald guys, fat guys, bald fat guys, ugly guys, bald fat ugly guys, all the time with very attractive woman. I think the key is just to not give a damn and be confident. Obviously much easier said than done.

Some girls don't care, others might, while some wouldn't like us regardless if we have hair or not. Other things are more important beyond doubt, but first impression when it comes to first impression sadly comes from the ouside. We watch and both guys and girls are at first visual beeings. Selfconfidence is important, no one likes to go bald - we should reflect on the outside how we feel on the inside and I have to say that it doesn't feel right that us young people in 20s and 30s have lost hair like people in their 60s or 70s.. its how I feel too, and it simply doesn't feel right, it doesn't even feel natural regardless of what evolution theories tend to speculate.

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I bet most surgeons suggest FUT not because its better, but easier for them to perform, and accordingly fewer surgeons are experts in FUE.

I feel similar to you about FUT, its does seem quite desperate to want to have a big chunk of the back of your head cut off to be stuck on top of your head. I guess that people losing their hair are desperate as they don't have any other options to help restore their hair to a decent results. People that have the option between the 2 procedures that choose FUT are a bit crazy.

It looks like I personally have no choice, but I will ask whats the best that can be done for me with FUE as I am so put off by FUT.

I have heard about that Artas thing but it does not look like any big improvement really, just makes it easier for the surgeon, does not really help the patient much, only in terms of time.

There is a buzz around Replicel on this forum as that looks like a possible cure in the near future. The fact that this possibly could become huge is another factor putting me off any FUT procedure.

[StressedToTheBald]

I feel similar to you about FUT, its does seem quite desperate to want to have a big chunk of the back of your head cut off to be stuck on top of your head. I guess that people losing their hair are desperate as they don't have any other options to help restore their hair to a decent results. People that have the option between the 2 procedures that choose FUT are a bit crazy.

I'm desperate too but I'd never be desperate enough to go with FUT - it involves adding a potentially serious scarring problem to worry about, as if the hair problem itself isn't enough and also there would be the results of HT to worry about.

It looks like I personally have no choice, but I will ask whats the best that can be done for me with FUE as I am so put off by FUT.

Theres always a choice. I'd try contacting as many surgeons out there - and especially those who claim to be experts in FUE. FUT is still mainstream procedure and most doctors are traditionalists !

I have heard about that Artas thing but it does not look like any big improvement really, just makes it easier for the surgeon, does not really help the patient much, only in terms of time.

I think as high tech is involved - the scanning or whatever is more precise, in my humble opinion this will become mainstream with FUE. It might not be now, as theis tech equipment probably costs big time.

There is a buzz around Replicel on this forum as that looks like a possible cure in the near future. The fact that this possibly could become huge is another factor putting me off any FUT procedure.

I don't raise my hopes too high. Theres plenty of claims out there and all seem to be years away or not proven. If replicel makes it with permanent solution and stuff, the cost would be much lower than HT, so I'd be the first to sign up.. but, theres always but, who knows when or even if replicel would become reality.

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I don't raise my hopes too high. Theres plenty of claims out there and all seem to be years away or not proven. If replicel makes it with permanent solution and stuff, the cost would be much lower than HT, so I'd be the first to sign up.. but, theres always but, who knows when or even if replicel would become reality.

FUE can still be a possibility for me, it would just cost me a fortune.

I would only go for it if somehow I managed to get hold of a lot of money.

I may not have enough grafts and worryingly I have been told this wouldn't be able to be determined until day of surgery. That means I could put a deposit down for surgery, fly to America, enter the surgery and be told 'Sir, we cannot help you'. I mean what the hell? That is just plain crazy.

I have also been told it would take many sessions over a long time period to get to the final result, although I think there could be other surgeons that would be willing to do mass FUE sessions over a shorter time. But this may not be the case, I will find out.

Otherwise...

FUT is the only real option for me as much as I hate it. I could go through with the procedure its just the aftermath.

I could get away with having FUE done in terms of work as no-one would notice, until it started growing back which is fine.

But with FUT I will go back with a huge scar, everyone will notice unless I grow my hair long and look like a monk for months which I am not prepared to do. If there is something out there that could conceal such a scar I would like to know about it. I am not sure how common that scar issue you mentioned is, if its common it would be an added thing to put me off.

There are huge consequences with FUT:

If it works:
I get a decent looking head of hair back, my life would change, I would have a life again, I would be confident of getting a girlfriend which would lead onto a better life, a house etc....

If it doesn't work:
I will be even more depressed than I am now, £15,000+ of my hard earned money which was mean't for a house would be gone for nothing. I would have a prominent scar in the back of my head and no way of covering it up as my hair needs to be short otherwise I will look like a monk.

I have been told by one clinic that their results are never worse than some patients having a slightly thinner area than the rest of their hair. This is one of the best clinics there are and they have a good reputation. So by the sounds of things it should all be fine.

[StressedToTheBald]

FUE can still be a possibility for me, it would just cost me a fortune.

I would only go for it if somehow I managed to get hold of a lot of money.

It is a fortune and money's becoming harder and harder to earn these days, I assume even in UK money doesn't fall off from trees.. Can't say what I would do in Your place as my situation financially is ways much worse. I guess if the money in question wasn't all my life's savings and if I had a housing and other issues solved, then it would be easier to say good bye to such huge amount of money..

I may not have enough grafts and worryingly I have been told this wouldn't be able to be determined until day of surgery. That means I could put a deposit down for surgery, fly to America, enter the surgery and be told 'Sir, we cannot help you'. I mean what the hell? That is just plain crazy.

That sounds terrible ! Especially if You go to States. The only reason why Europe might be better - You could book a local cheap flight, have consultations and see where You stand. Otherwise it might easily end up like a walk in the dark !

I have also been told it would take many sessions over a long time period to get to the final result, although I think there could be other surgeons that would be willing to do mass FUE sessions over a shorter time. But this may not be the case, I will find out.

I noticed some people indeed have multiple sessions over time. Benefits - You could devide the costs and stuff - bad really bad thing - You wouldn't have full result anywhere near in time frame that You have set for this Year.

FUT is the only real option for me as much as I hate it. I could go through with the procedure its just the aftermath.

I could get away with having FUE done in terms of work as no-one would notice, until it started growing back which is fine.

But with FUT I will go back with a huge scar, everyone will notice unless I grow my hair long and look like a monk for months which I am not prepared to do. If there is something out there that could conceal such a scar I would like to know about it. I am not sure how common that scar issue you mentioned is, if its common it would be an added thing to put me off.

Think of the result, the procedure itself is less important.
I'd never go with FUT, I'm prone to scarring and I believe even people who aren't can end up badly. Let me tell You - there is no such thing as invisible scar !!! You will get one if You go with FUT, the only difference based on the skill of the surgeon Your scar may be more or less noticable, but You would get one for sure ! And worst case scenario You could end up with keloid or even if not - You can end up having to pay for additional FUE just to 'cover' the scar.

There are creams and covers for scars, in skin colour.. but do ask Yourself if you really want to apply consealers for the rest of Your life.

There are huge consequences with FUT:

If it works:
I get a decent looking head of hair back, my life would change, I would have a life again, I would be confident of getting a girlfriend which would lead onto a better life, a house etc....

If it doesn't work:
I will be even more depressed than I am now, £15,000+ of my hard earned money which was mean't for a house would be gone for nothing. I would have a prominent scar in the back of my head and no way of covering it up as my hair needs to be short otherwise I will look like a monk.

I have been told by one clinic that their results are never worse than some patients having a slightly thinner area than the rest of their hair. This is one of the best clinics there are and they have a good reputation. So by the sounds of things it should all be fine.

Weigh in carefuly, once You decide there is no way back. Are You ready to accept the possible outcome of what happens if it doesn't work.. If the money's planned for the future house, girl, family.. Be wise, don't loose both, those would be my fears too.

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Think of the result, the procedure itself is less important.
I'd never go with FUT, I'm prone to scarring and I believe even people who aren't can end up badly. Let me tell You - there is no such thing as invisible scar !!! You will get one if You go with FUT, the only difference based on the skill of the surgeon Your scar may be more or less noticable, but You would get one for sure ! And worst case scenario You could end up with keloid or even if not - You can end up having to pay for additional FUE just to 'cover' the scar.

Unfortunately I am yet to have a response from Dr Feriduni who I sent a consultation form to and was the one surgeon I was hoping to hear back from, although the other surgeon I have in mind gives me confidence and I think I could get a good result being his patient.

Just a bit more research needed. I ideally need to know what can potentially be done for me BEFORE I book any surgery. I need to know what I am paying for and travelling thousands of miles for before I get there. Hopefully there are surgeons that can do this. I am not prepared to put down a 20% deposit (£2500) pay £1000 for accommodation and flights, fly to America to be told I am a poor candidate. Who would do that, its madness.

As far as I am aware £15k should pay for it, which would leave £10k in my bank which I could deal with. My parents don't know that I am considering doing this but they have both offered to help me financially when I come to buy a house so that should also help the blow of losing £15k to get some hair back. I would not tell them I had it done until it started growing and then they will feel sorry for me and possibly help me out even more. So overall in the longer term say 3-4 years away with my parents help and my continued saving I should re-coup that £15k+. I like a bit of a gamble so maybe I should just chuck one of my £1000's on a 15-1 bet.

Next step for me is to get a few more questions answered + get a few photos of myself taken posing with a grade 0 haircut and see if I can cope with the way I look, if I decide that I look ok then I may not bother with surgery. If I hate the way I look then I think surgery is the only option.
We will see.

[StressedToTheBald]

Keep me updated, think I saw that name before, where is Dr. Feriduni located ?

It would be the ideal situation to know what can and cannot be done and how much it costs in advance. Going far off without this, You might loose a good deal of money for nothing and that wouldn't be good.

Sounds fair enough if You can give a portion and save the other as You said, and with parents help, that sounds like a plan.

Best of luck.

PS. Grade 0 haircut - would that be like complete head shaving, with razor ? I've never gone that far, although recently I shaved a bit of parts where my receding lines are in good hope that something might grow up again.

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PS. Grade 0 haircut - would that be like complete head shaving, with razor ? I've never gone that far, although recently I shaved a bit of parts where my receding lines are in good hope that something might grow up again.

No, Grade 0 is the lowest cut on an electric hair trimmer. Basically its without any plastic guard, just the bare clippers themselves.

Not quite a razor shave (I could not do that).

I am currently grade 1 so grade 0 isn't too much different.

You can still see the hairs (well only just) with a grade 0, With razors the hairs gone completely and your just left with a head of skin.

[StressedToTheBald]

Ok, I know what you mean now. I tend to keep the plastic guard on the trimmer, my trimmer is pretty precise and without the guard it barely leaves visible hair so that would feel very similar to shaved head.

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Ok, I know what you mean now. I tend to keep the plastic guard on the trimmer, my trimmer is pretty precise and without the guard it barely leaves visible hair so that would feel very similar to shaved head.

I think a grade 0 is better than a grade 1 when you don't have much left on top, especially when your still in your 20's.

When the hair on top is so far gone that the side and back hair in contrast stands out.

Need to blend it in more and go for a grade 0.

[StressedToTheBald]

I think a grade 0 is better than a grade 1 when you don't have much left on top, especially when your still in your 20's.

When the hair on top is so far gone that the side and back hair in contrast stands out.

Need to blend it in more and go for a grade 0.

I don't have much left on the crown and in the front I have receding hairlines. This is still visible with grade 1. I might go with grade 0, but would have to stay in for a few days.. Think I've done something half way similar once by mistake. Its hard to blend in, thats not really possible, not even with a razor - when I look at people who shave their heads - I can still clearly notice the lines of their baldness - even though their heads are clean shaved - it still shows !

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I don't have much left on the crown and in the front I have receding hairlines. This is still visible with grade 1. I might go with grade 0, but would have to stay in for a few days.. Think I've done something half way similar once by mistake. Its hard to blend in, thats not really possible, not even with a razor - when I look at people who shave their heads - I can still clearly notice the lines of their baldness - even though their heads are clean shaved - it still shows !

It will still show that I am bald lol of course it will. There is no way of covering that up. I will see what a grade 0 looks like.

Jason Statham does not look like he shaves his head to a grade 0, in most pictures it looks like grade 1 or 2. He is one of the lucky ones that looks ok with a balding head. But of course would look very good with hair.

[StressedToTheBald]

This guy has very similar front to mine ! Don't know if he has a balding crown too ? My balding crown ain't visible from the front either.

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This guy has very similar front to mine ! Don't know if he has a balding crown too ? My balding crown ain't visible from the front either.

I think this may have been taken a few years ago as his hair has almost disappeared from the top now.

[StressedToTheBald]

I think this may have been taken a few years ago as his hair has almost disappeared from the top now.

I can only hope not to end up the same way.. I feel bad enough as it as.
Honestly, Norwood 4 or 5 already feels like a disaster to me, can't even imagine what I would do if I had Norwood 6 or 7. This way at least still feels I stand a chance.