I've just had my procedure with Dr. Gho and want to share the results

[534623]

I think if gc can take some pictures of his donor before the procedure and we can match them up afterwards, then that will settle the issue of graft splitting.

Who says that they don’t split “grafts”?

Didn’t you notice during making the analysis of my close-up photos, that they indeed sometimes split “grafts”? And what happens after 5-14 days within such extraction wounds?

What size of normal FUE punch would a normal FUE doctor need to extract such a “graft”?
Such a “graft”, as you can see it in the photo – what kind of “graft” or “follicular unit” is it at all? Is it a “typical follicular unit”? Or is it rather a “grouping of follicular units” = two 2-hair follicular units very close together? What is it?

How can you extract such a "graft" with

- normal FUE;
- with 0.6 mm HST needles ?

Is there a difference between "graft splitting" and "follicular unit splitting"? And HOW can you "split" a follicular unit at all?
Where is the difference between "graft" and "follicular unit" at all?

Screen shot taken from this Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y46wSTY1cD4

[JJJJrS]

I'm not saying that I agree with the theory. Dr. Umar brought it up and a few forum posters have used it to explain Dr. Gho's results. I agree with you that the theory is unlikely because of the small needle sizes HASCI uses.

By including a picture of the donor area before the procedure, you can totally settle this issue though. I think it would also be interesting to see which grafts are extracted and how they regenerate over time.

[534623]

Which kind of grafts/FU's can you see in my right-ear view or left-ear-view photos?
I'm talking about all the not extracted grafts in between - especially about all the untouched hairs in the area towards the forehead. How many 3-hair or 4-hair grafts can you find at all?
All my close-up photos are sufficiently good to see/detect this.

[didi]

is it possible to extract 3 hair FU with .5-6mm needle even when in perfect formation?

FUE Drs will tell you how hard is to extract 3 hair unit with bigger needle under magnification, hasci uses no magnification and much smaller needle



we need to see more recepient area, im still curious if 3 grows 3 in donor and recepient

[gc83uk]

gc, do you think you'll be able to shave your donor area before the procedure and take a picture of that?

The problem I have is i don't know how long the hair length needs to be for the procedure. I'll be working right up to the day before of having the procedure, so I don't even have time to shave it and let it regrow in time.

What I will be able to do is take photos on the day after they have buzzed my head and because I'm having the procedure done over 2 days, I'll be able to get photos at the half way point, which I believe will be crucial for the 2nd day before/after set of photos.

I'll probably do that from my hotel room and upload that very night!

[JJJJrS]

The problem I have is i don't know how long the hair length needs to be for the procedure. I'll be working right up to the day before of having the procedure, so I don't even have time to shave it and let it regrow in time.

What I will be able to do is take photos on the day after they have buzzed my head and because I'm having the procedure done over 2 days, I'll be able to get photos at the half way point, which I believe will be crucial for the 2nd day before/after set of photos.

I'll probably do that from my hotel room and upload that very night!

Great!

I forgot that you were having your procedure over two days. As long as you're not too tired/groggy, just take as many photos as you can between day 1 and day 2 and that should be perfect. I think that will turn out even better because the extraction points from day 1 can easily be used as references.

As long as we get some type of before picture to include, the analysis should be even more complete.

[534623]

The problem I have is i don't know how long the hair length needs to be for the procedure.

What I will be able to do is take photos on the day after they have buzzed my head ...

ha ha, I thought the same, but this - didn’t really work as hoped for, unfortunately …

If you allow them to “shave” the whole head (and this is almost ALWAYS the case for extractions beyond 300-500 grafts or so, because they simply need big areas), then they will do this in THREE steps:

1st haircut (whole head): around 3-5 mm short

2nd haircut (extraction areas): around 1.5-2.5 mm short

Furthermore, they do the 2nd haircut (all haircuts always with an electric clipper!) STEPWISE in the real “safety zone” areas, according to the area where they start/intend to extract; but definitely NOT immediately the whole (marked with a pen) “safety zone” areas – the real “permanent” hair areas.

The reason for such a 3-step haircut procedure, as just described and experienced myself, seems to be, that they don't “shave” more and/or shorter the hairs than finally necessary for the patients procedure/intended amount of grafts.

The 1st haircut (whole head) is like a Day-7 photo – and in such a photo, it is already somewhat critically to see/to find all extraction sites/hairs (I know, you find them in half the time); with a handheld microscope, of course, always no problem at all to see each and every detail.

Furthermore, on the day of your treatment, early in the morning – there is simply not enough time to make lots of super-duper high quality photos – practically, no way! And YOU know how long it sometimes can take to get at least 1 good quality photo – at least, just from 1 certain area.

So, what?

If you simply do not want a short haircut 1 day BEFORE having your treatment (whatever the reason – on the other hand, you WILL get this anyhow 1 day later!), to make good quality photos of all areas, in this case, you should at least “shave” (or use an electric clipper) the “good old” observation area BEFORE having your 3rd treatment – which is all in all just around 3 cm².
With this, we could at least find out what happened with extraction site #3, 4, 5, 6, 14, 21, 40, 50 – and finally, whether or not they extract regenerated hairs again in this observation area. Moreover, we could better and easily see the CHARACTERISTICS of all so far observed regenerated hairs – and all this BEFORE having your 3rd HST.

So “shaving” just around 3-4 cm² BEFORE having your 3rd procedure (you can do this even TODAY!), I think doing at least THIS, wouldn’t destroy your Brad Pitt appearance.

[gc83uk]

ha ha, I thought the same, but this - didn’t really work as hoped for, unfortunately …

Furthermore, on the day of your treatment, early in the morning – there is simply not enough time to make lots of super-duper high quality photos – practically, no way! And YOU know how long it sometimes can take to get at least 1 good quality photo – at least, just from 1 certain area.

To be honest I know exactly what you mean, nevertheless even if I don't manage to take one, I'll still be able to take the photos in the evening like JJJJrS said.

The 1st haircut (whole head) is like a Day-7 photo – and in such a photo, it is already somewhat critically to see/to find all extraction sites/hairs (I know, you find them in half the time); with a handheld microscope, of course, always no problem at all to see each and every detail.

Haha, you and your hand held microscope! BTW when I said 'rubbish' a few days back, I was simply 'pressing your buttons' so to speak. It actually looks quite useful and if Gho was to give these out in his welcome packs, for the minimal cost, (I think they're about £50 without checking)it would be a wise move by him to help everyone monitor their regrowth, after all that is one of the main criteria of HST.

If you simply do not want a short haircut 1 day BEFORE having your treatment (whatever the reason – on the other hand, you WILL get this anyhow 1 day later!), to make good quality photos of all areas, in this case, you should at least “shave” (or use an electric clipper) the “good old” observation area BEFORE having your 3rd treatment – which is all in all just around 3 cm².
With this, we could at least find out what happened with extraction site #3, 4, 5, 6, 14, 21, 40, 50 – and finally, whether or not they extract regenerated hairs again in this observation area. Moreover, we could better and easily see the CHARACTERISTICS of all so far observed regenerated hairs – and all this BEFORE having your 3rd HST.

So “shaving” just around 3-4 cm² BEFORE having your 3rd procedure (you can do this even TODAY!), I think doing at least THIS, wouldn’t destroy your Brad Pitt appearance.

I'm not adverse to this idea, it's not about what I look like, I was just concerned about over trimming and jeopardizing the area for extraction.

[534623]

I'll still be able to take the photos in the evening like JJJJrS said.

Don't do it!

Look what the kids in these forums write:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?p=96601#post96601

What we do - is VOODOO!

aka "hocus pocus" ...

[JJJJrS]

Don't do it!

Look what the kids in these forums write:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?p=96601#post96601

What we do - is VOODOO!

aka "hocus pocus" ...

Ridiculous post by an obvious shill. Guys like him are more worried about protecting "their" clinics and organizations than moving the industry forward.

[gc83uk]

I not even going to dignify a response to that Voodoo comment from Delphi.

But generally I have noticed some people don't want to acknowledge that Gho is doing something nobody else is doing, they would much rather bury their head in the sand.

If Gho was in the USA then it would be a different story.

[JJJJrS]

If you simply do not want a short haircut 1 day BEFORE having your treatment (whatever the reason – on the other hand, you WILL get this anyhow 1 day later!), to make good quality photos of all areas, in this case, you should at least “shave” (or use an electric clipper) the “good old” observation area BEFORE having your 3rd treatment – which is all in all just around 3 cm².
With this, we could at least find out what happened with extraction site #3, 4, 5, 6, 14, 21, 40, 50 – and finally, whether or not they extract regenerated hairs again in this observation area. Moreover, we could better and easily see the CHARACTERISTICS of all so far observed regenerated hairs – and all this BEFORE having your 3rd HST.

Excellent point. If we can get pictures of the same area again, that would be fantastic for multiple reasons:

1. Like you mentioned, we can establish a final regeneration rate for your original analysis, 9-12 months after the 2nd procedure.

2. gc's 3rd procedure will be double the size of the previous two procedures. There is a reasonable chance that some of the same extraction points from the second procedure will be reharvested, particularly if we look at the entire donor, beyond the 1-50 extraction points you marked.

From this analysis, we can look at the regeneration rate and characteristics of grafts that have been extracted more than once.

[Kiwi]

Looking forward to your Jan pics!

[534623]

Looking forward to your Jan pics!

What do you expect to see after 1 month?

Can you describe what exactly you expect to see after 1 month?

[Kiwi]

What do you expect to see after 1 month?

Can you describe what exactly you expect to see after 1 month?

Healing head. Hope... :/