I've just had my procedure with Dr. Gho and want to share the results

[c5000]

Your photos are not bad at all c5000 but it's a little harder to count the individual hairs compared to gc83uk and Iron_Man. If you look at Iron_Man's photos, for example, they are zoomed in to a smaller area and it's much easier to count the individual hairs and observe the extraction sites.

If you could possibly try to replicate IM's photos, then it would be mush easier to preform an analysis. With the pictures you have provided, we can get a general idea but an exact count would be difficult. Maybe others will be able to do it though.

Thanks JJJJrS

I'll try to replicate IronMans's photos as best I can tomorrow.

I took some more pics tonight that seem a lot better...



Day 6 - Sunday - Donor - Left Side of Head:







Day 6 - Sunday - Donor - Back of Head (Just under Scar):







Day 6 - Sunday - Donor - Right Side of Head:





The pic of the right side of my head seems to be really clearly showing regeneration. Or maybe these are just the failed extraction attempts?

[c5000]

I've spent about 30 mins looking at both photos, but the hair is just too long on the day 5 pic, so until you can clip it down then it's going to be almost impossible.

Thanks for trying Gaz.

Is it definitely safe to clip my hair on Day 7? I can still feel scabs at the back, won't clipping the hair damage anything?

I'll email Hasci and see what they say about clipping the back of my head.

Cheers
c5000

[gc83uk]

If in doubt use scissors.

On a positive note, I can see loads of hairs growing through extraction sites all over your head. I'm just having a nightmare linking up the older photos with the latest photos.

Have you been able to try yourself? Basically just find a pointer(scar or deep extraction area) on one of your early photos, circle it using any editing software, even MS Paint, circle another 30 or so extraction points around the pointer and do the exact same on the last photo.

Once you've clipped or trimmed then I'll try again.

Iron Mans photos are superior to yours and analysing his will be a walk in the park, but don't give up, each pic you take seems to get better!

[c5000]

If in doubt use scissors.

On a positive note, I can see loads of hairs growing through extraction sites all over your head. I'm just having a nightmare linking up the older photos with the latest photos.

Have you been able to try yourself? Basically just find a pointer(scar or deep extraction area) on one of your early photos, circle it using any editing software, even MS Paint, circle another 30 or so extraction points around the pointer and do the exact same on the last photo.

Once you've clipped or trimmed then I'll try again.

Iron Mans photos are superior to yours and analysing his will be a walk in the park, but don't give up, each pic you take seems to get better!

I'll try to document my donor tomorrow and maybe even get the clippers out to it. I can definitely see lots of hairs sprouting through, hopefully it is regeneration rather than just the unsuccessful extractions.

I'll spend a good bit of time tomorrow trying to replicate IronMans photos and hopefully we'll be able to start counting then.

[534623]

I can definitely see lots of hairs sprouting through,
hopefully it is regeneration rather than just the unsuccessful extractions.

Without any doubts - it doesn't matter.
I had a very long talk with the girl who extracted my grafts (I'll report about the details in a few days or so) and again, it doesn't matter:
Whatever an HST doctor or technician tried to extract -successful or unsuccessful- WILL BE EXTRACTED/removed. So EVERY drill -successful or unsuccessful- creates a small hole. Even within these "unsuccessful holes", grafts/follicles/hairs WILL regenerate at least in the donor area - even if 1 or more of these unsuccessfull extracted follicles are amputated (transected) follicles. They put these "questionable grafts" after extraction in those section of the petri dish(there are always 3 sections in every dish), were you can either see a cross, a star or a smiley. During the implantation part, they decide again, whether or not at least some of these "questionable grafts" still could have a chance to survive (implanting them instead discarding them) in the recipient area or there is absolutely "no go" for these grafts. That's all.

I'll spend a good bit of time tomorrow trying to replicate IronMans photos and hopefully we'll be able to start counting then.

he he, guess what I'm just doing ...
I just try to figure out myself HOW I did it - to replicate the used camera's settings etc for these -so far- rather "lucky shots" (out of at least 50 or so).

To figure out at least the used main-settings for these "lucky shots" is not difficult:
When you download my Day-1 and/or Day-2 photos, make a right mouse click on this file, select "Properties" --> "FileInfo". There you will see at least the camera's main-settings I used during the shot. With an images software, you can even see some more details - e.g. whether or not a flash was used etc.

@c5000, use the same settings as you used them for the photos you posted yesterday, because I think your camera is able to take SUPERB photos. Then use just the ZOOM function/tool (Tele vs. Wide-angle) somewhat - but just somewhat; because everything what's still needed for your shots is just a little bit zoom, to get your donor area somewhat closer to the camera's lens. Sure, this will of course create a smaller area to see thereafter, but THAT is actually what we want to see - MACRO-PHOTOGRAPHIC - and real good macro photos can't therefore show big areas of something.

[534623]

@c5000, use the same settings as you used them for the photos you posted yesterday, because I think your camera is able to take SUPERB photos. Then use just the ZOOM function/tool (Tele vs. Wide-angle) somewhat - but just somewhat; because everything what's still needed for your shots is just a little bit zoom, to get your donor area somewhat closer to the camera's lens. Sure, this will of course create a smaller area to see thereafter, but THAT is actually what we want to see - MACRO-PHOTOGRAPHIC - and real good macro photos can't therefore show big areas of something.

Additional HINTS
YOU and your camera must be completely "dead men" during the shot(s) - no shaking is allowed! Do not even breathe! lol
Take the photos near a window or so (DAYLIGHT!!) - and if there is still not enough daylight, simply use he camera's flash in addition. Good luck!

AND PLEASE JUST POST THE LINKS TO YOUR PHOTOS!
... because posting something in this thread is a horror due to the VERY BIG embedded photos.

[c5000]

@ Iron_Man

That makes a lot of sense about the 3 parts of the petri dish, I wish I'd asked more questions, but I was too busy trying to count the number or drills. haha

Yeah, they are great photos so fingers crossed my photos tonight will get somewhere near them.

Thanks for the advice, I'll try zooming in.

And I'll remember to just post the links this time. haha.


So how is your recovery going?

[hellouser]

Question:

How do Dr. Gho's clinics accept payment? Visa? Cash? Other?

I'll be flying in from Canada and don't see myself bringing in $10,000 in notes, thats pretty risky. So how does he do it? Financing maybe (that'd be awesome...) ?

[didi]

Credit card shd be fine

When r u having procedure

[534623]

How do Dr. Gho's clinics accept payment? Visa? Cash? Other?

I don't know what other patients know, but here is at least what I know, what they told me via e-mail 8 month ago, and what I finally did:

1) A deposit of 50% at least three weeks before the treatment by using credit card, cash or bank transfer (they will provide you banking data/IBAN-BIC/Swift and mention your name and treatment date in every money transfer!).

2) The remaining amount has to be paid at least one week before the treatment date by using credit card, cash or bank transfer (mention your name and treatment date).

3) It is also possible to pay the remaining amount on the day of treatment by using credit card or cash. Be sure your credit card is suitable for bigger amounts (if you pay the remaining amount with a credit card on the day of treatment) and that your bank account is sufficient. The treatment cannot take place, when the remaining part has not been paid.

That's what I know.
BUT before you do something at all, or to get any banking data or whatever, you need to get in contact with them - or do you know in advance how much exactly you have to pay or how much HST grafts they can harvest in your case?

[c5000]

Hi all

It's been nearly 3 weeks since my procedure and I thought it was about time I gave another update.

I'm really happy with the result aesthetically, it's definitely making me want to go back and I have booked another procedure for December 2013, so if there is no scarring then Hasci will be happy to treat me again.

In regards to donor regeneration, my donor is still VERY itchy which I'm taking as a good sign that donor regeneration is still occuring. I'm a bit concerned that I've been scratching my donor in my sleep, does anyone know if this will have an adverse affect on donor regeneration?

I'm going to shave my entire head to a grade 0 at the end of January once I know that there is no chance of damaging the donor or recipient. I will then try to compare a count of follicles against the photo of my donor that Gaz did a count on.

I'm also considering going on meds now to keep the hair I've got, what do you guys think?

[gc83uk]

Hi mate, glad to hear it's all going well.

How come you booked for December 2013 instead say October 2013? I'm assuming that is a personal choice rather than the current waiting list!

I can't really comment on the meds, but it will be great to see a photo of your head shaved come the end of Jan.

[c5000]

Hi mate, glad to hear it's all going well.

How come you booked for December 2013 instead say October 2013? I'm assuming that is a personal choice rather than the current waiting list!

I can't really comment on the meds, but it will be great to see a photo of your head shaved come the end of Jan.

2 reasons really mate, I want to give my donor the best chance possible to recover and I'll use the time off to have an extra long christmas break.

What do you think regarding me scratching my donor?

[gc83uk]

2 reasons really mate, I want to give my donor the best chance possible to recover and I'll use the time off to have an extra long christmas break.

What do you think regarding me scratching my donor?

Ah I see, good thinking!

I think its normal for the donor to still be itchy and I've not heard that it would cause any adverse affect on the regen, so don't worry.

As for scratching during sleeping, if your really that worried then you could handcuff yourself lol or wear a hat/shower cap. That's a bit extreme tho!

[c5000]

Ah I see, good thinking!

I think its normal for the donor to still be itchy and I've not heard that it would cause any adverse affect on the regen, so don't worry.

As for scratching during sleeping, if your really that worried then you could handcuff yourself lol or wear a hat/shower cap. That's a bit extreme tho!

I may try the shower cap.

So how long til your next procedure mate? A week or so?