The Ironman Procedure

[Brock Landers]

With everything healed up by day 7, i don't know how u can tell which hairs were which....?

[JJJJrS]

I've completed an analysis of 126(!) extraction points from Iron_Man's right ear area. It doesn't cover the entire area but I don't think I can count anymore without going crazy Regardless, I feel that's more than enough extraction points to give us a general idea.

Right Ear, Day 3 - Analysis
Right Ear, Day 7 - Analysis
Right Ear, Day 1 - Analysis (some extraction points missing)

Due to the length of some hairs which obscured extraction points, there were a number of inconclusive points.

Nevertheless, based on my analysis, approximately 70% of Iron_Man's extraction points regenerated hair, 7 days after his HST procedure.

I've provided my rough draft analysis below.

Right Ear, Day 3 - Rough Draft
Right Ear, Day 7 - Rough Draft

In this rough draft, I mapped Iron_Man's right ear area. For any extraction point, the surrounding hairs are marked in red and given as references.

I encourage anyone to examine the analysis. If there's anything that doesn't seem right, please bring it to my attention.

[sanook]

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[534623]

Wow. Good luck to you Iron_Man. Can't wait to see how things turn out.

Sorry guys,
I couldn't make an update in the "IronMan’s hair multiplication ride …" thread in the other forum, because P.T Barnum from India freaked out (I grilled him - actually, just a little bit and even without using a "bad language" he he) and therefore I'm unable at the moment to make an update over there.

Anyway, in this Dutch thread (use Google's translator, if necessary) ...

http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=31714

- there you'll find what most guys (I think) have been waiting for so long - namely "Gho's thin looking HT's" lol ...

[didi]

Next important thing would be the number of 1s, 2s, 3s, as HASCI is the only clinic out there who doesn't supply these numbers and some people have reported thin recipient and suspect that mostly 1s got transplanted.[/QUOTE]



You see thats the thing, hasci uses one partition of petri dish for failed extractions, other 2 partitions for good grafts BUT they dont separate grafts and as a result you got 1s 2s and 3s all mixed up...NO GOOD


i dont see the reason why hasci cant get rid off 'failed ext' part and make better use of partitions of petri dish, they can use one part for 1s, one for 2s and one for 3s/4s...failed grafts can go in ashtray as far as we are concerned..true?..Put them in seperate petri..

Tht way patient knows exactly what he is getting for his money and that is not big ask, think logiclly....unless thats where the big secret is(if there is one)..

Should we push hasci to do that, we as customers have the power to chnge things and we are not asking for much

[Arashi]

I dont think theres a way you can tell by looking at pics,
it seems all these fighting over 'failed extractions' was unnecesary

conclusion? Failed extractions are not as high as feared, confirmed by counting

Whats next

Within 3 weeks we'll have the GC83UK pics which will for once and all confirm this. But since HASCI now states that the 80% doesn't include failed extractions, in theory they shouldn't even matter. Still would be nice to see it in the GC83UK case.

Next important thing would be the number of 1s, 2s, 3s, as HASCI is the only clinic out there who doesn't supply these numbers and some people have reported thin recipient and suspect that mostly 1s got transplanted.

[didi]

No Bosco I was referring to a way of identifying these on the pics.
Do you know yourself? Or is it a case of taking a general overview of the whole donor site?

I dont think theres a way you can tell by looking at pics,
it seems all these fighting over 'failed extractions' was unnecesary

conclusion? Failed extractions are not as high as feared, confirmed by counting

Whats next

[Jairus]

Simply by looking in YOUR petri-dish. If there are just 30 - 80 (if at all) failed grafts in 1 separate section marked with a cross, star or smiley, then you'll know that 30-80 regrown extraction sites, which are spread all over the whole donor area, will be regrowth sites of failed extractions. These can be sometimes the first regrowth sites to see, sometimes they are equally fast with all the other extraction sites.

You'll find such petri-dish photos in this thread.

No Bosco I was referring to a way of identifying these on the pics.
Do you know yourself? Or is it a case of taking a general overview of the whole donor site?

[Arashi]

btw, re Dr Nigam: Obi never reported back from yesterday's visit to his office. Rumour has it he died when Dr Nigam tried to transplant goat hair stem cells onto his scalp.

[Arashi]

Simply by looking in YOUR petri-dish. If there are just 30 - 80 (if at all) failed grafts in 1 separate section marked with a cross, star or smiley, then you'll know that 30-80 regrown extraction sites, which are spread all over the whole donor area, will be regrowth sites of failed extractions. These can be sometimes the first regrowth sites to see, sometimes they are equally fast with all the other extraction sites.

You'll find such petri-dish photos in this thread.

Come on man, stop posting rubbish and show JJJJr's your pic's. He still doesn't believe hairs actually grow back. He thinks the GC83UK photo's are fake, Tobian and mine are unclear, C5000 he doesn't trust, so he really need yours to see hairs actually grow back !

[534623]

How do we identify failed extractions as opposed to actual regrowth?

Simply by looking in YOUR petri-dish. If there are just 30 - 80 (if at all) failed grafts in 1 separate section marked with a cross, star or smiley, then you'll know that 30-80 regrown extraction sites, which are spread all over the whole donor area, will be regrowth sites of failed extractions. These can be sometimes the first regrowth sites to see, sometimes they are equally fast with all the other extraction sites.

You'll find such petri-dish photos in this thread.

[Jairus]

How are we going about analyzing the donor regeneration?

How do we identify failed extractions as opposed to actual regrowth?

If this can be proven pictorially, it would be massive.

[gc83uk]

Correct, I think thats the best way to notate it. At least we're all on the same wavelength.

Problem is, I then googled if you can have 1:0 ratio, got myself confused after that lol
Meaning 1 success: 0 fails 100% success basically.

[didi]

'Also I may have been misunderstood when it came to ratios, I felt there were probably around 3000 extractions made, so this would be a ratio of 2 holes made for 1 successfull extraction... that's what I meant by 2:1'

3000 extractions/drills is 1:1 ratio, assuming you had 1500 grafts

for every successful one you have 1 which is unsuccessful

[Arashi]

But it's very comforting that at least they state (again) that all failed extractions will grow back AND, even more importantly, that 80% is REAL regrowth. I was really happy to hear that ... I do have quite a bit of faith in them, but of course, would still like to see it verified.