The Ironman Procedure

[Arashi]

What else is there to actually prove? Because right now I'm not far away from my next procedure and I'm not sure what the point is in taking millions of photos, other than my own journey from cue ball to Werewolf.

No one ever has posted good enough high res pictures of recipient to actual count the 1s, 2s and 3s. And we don't have seen any case where we could actually count all the extractions.

[534623]

Ok getting more convinced that there is some regeneration, perhaps you could shave the area again so its a good comparison with the day 3 pics?

Define "some".

This is, for instance, a clear as glass BEFORE photo ...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/Upper-Strip-Area-Day-3.jpg

... and this is a clear as glass AFTER photo:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/Upper-Strip-Area-Day-7.jpg

And now try to define "some" and whether or not it's necessary (besides the close-up photos and explanations I posted today for this issue) to shave all these areas again down to zero. Labelling close-up photos, seems to be a useless thing ...
To get the REAL and final outcome of regeneration - it makes no sense to shave all these areas again just after 2 weeks, because regeneration, is still ongoing.

[clandestine]

Gc; no need to answer if you're not comfortable doing so, but I'm curious where you find the money for the multiple operations you undergo?

[gc83uk]

OK so we've had quite a few cases which have been reasonably documented and 2 or 3 which have been exceptional.

The failed extractions issue is not really an issue, anyone concerned would just need to look at the petri dish for these failed extractions to know how many they have had.

Donor regrowth has been recorded at anywhere between 80-90% within a week or 2 of having the procedure and no doubt that percentage rises all the time throughout the days, weeks and months thereafter!

Recipient results and hair counting in the recipient has been done too.

Close ups of the recipient areas to show grafts are not just 1 hair grafts, but 2 and 3, which dismisses the possibility of 'splitting' the donor grafts.

What else is there to actually prove? Because right now I'm not far away from my next procedure and I'm not sure what the point is in taking millions of photos, other than my own journey from cue ball to Werewolf.

[Jairus]

Ok getting more convinced that there is some regeneration, perhaps you could shave the area again so its a good comparison with the day 3 pics?

[534623]

Normal people get to see the photo's. They actually get them mailed.

Ah, cool. Could you please show us a few of them? Thanks in advance.

[534623]

I also don't think you even understand exactly what you want.

hmmm, ask some other users, whether or not THEY understand what this psychopath actually wants.

[Arashi]

INTERESTING. How do you know that the photos are "not very high quality"?

What a freak ...

Normal people get to see the photo's. They actually get them mailed. I'm sure in your case they mailed the photo's to freakshow.com though.

[534623]

In my case, they just shot before's and after's,

not very high quality neither.

INTERESTING. How do you know that the photos are "not very high quality"?

What a freak ...

[Arashi]

By the way, drug addict,
guess why they ALWAYS make photos of each and every detail after every treatment step?

In my case, they just shot before's and after's, not very high quality neither. But I'm sure they shot more in your case. They don't get to see an ape-human cross-over species every day.

[Arashi]

I'll respond to you one last time because I have no interest in arguing for 20 pages like I know you're capable of doing.

Ah, ok, that's why your post count is 5% less than mine, makes sense man

I never said I didn't believe in donor regeneration. I'm only interested in seeing as many documented cases as possible.

Ok, cool. I know someone who likes to go to the airport and count planes. Everybody is entitled to a hobby I guess !

I also don't think you even understand exactly what you want. From what I can gather, you want someone to map their entire donor area and count thousands of hairs.

Not hairs, holes. Yeah I'm sure it can be a tedious job with lousy pictures. That's where Schweinhund actually could have been helpful. He DOES make outstanding pictures. Too bad he doesn't want to make useful pictures.

The other thing that bothers me is that you want IM to do this when you just had your procedure yourself and could only give us a single small picture!

I think I've already explained 3 times that NOBODY ever had mentioned failed extractions here before. If I had known about this, I had shot the needed pictures myself of course.

I was a little harsh when I called it useless, but you can't compare the pictures you provided with IM's.

I'm not comparing anything. IM's pictures are of a LOT higher quality than the ones I had posted. He has a good camera, I just shot mine with my cellphone. IM knows his photographing stuff, I don't care much about it. BUT for proving that hairs actually would grow back, my pictures were more than enough. Not sure what highres pictures would have added ...

[534623]

Hey drug addict,
why can't you ask Kristel a really simple question:

"I paid 1600 grafts for my ugly bald recipient area. How many drills did the technicians make in my ugly head to get these 1600 grafts I paid?"

I guess even Kristel's children are able to understand this simple question.

By the way, drug addict,
guess why they ALWAYS make photos of each and every detail after every treatment step?
And yes, especially also from the hole donor area after extractions - so that such psychopaths like you can't talk bullshit thereafter.

[JJJJrS]

I just find you very funny. First you say you don't even know for sure if hair's regenerate, but now you say you studied GC83UK's case. Didn't believe that one ? Then you said you short hairs in mine and Tobian's pictures didn't mean anything. Now you claim that they actualy mean regrowth. You said scientifical arguments were needed but when one user asked on hairsite about failed extractions, you said a glance at the petridish and 3 lousy pictures of ironman's ugly misformed head were enough I just find your reasoning very funny, that's all

I'll respond to you one last time because I have no interest in arguing for 20 pages like I know you're capable of doing.

I never said I didn't believe in donor regeneration. I'm only interested in seeing as many documented cases as possible.

I also don't think you even understand exactly what you want. From what I can gather, you want someone to map their entire donor area and count thousands of hairs. I just finished counting 126 extraction points and it was very, very tedious! I'm not going to count thousands of hairs without a financial incentive. Nor do I think you'll find a patient willing to map their head like that. If you can, that would be great and I wish you all the best with your analysis.

The other thing that bothers me is that you want IM to do this when you just had your procedure yourself and could only give us a single small picture! I was a little harsh when I called it useless, but you can't compare the pictures you provided with IM's. If you count his extraction points, you'll see that he's taken a picture of more than half of them, if you look at his two ear photos and scars. This is a huge part of his donor area. We would be able to see if he had thousands of extractions and he simply doesn't. The analysis is therefore more than worthwhile.

[534623]

I asked Kristel a lot of things.

Sure, that's the reason why you still talk bullshit.

[Arashi]

Why don't you ask Kristel, whether or not they do this?

And how do you know, that I don't know? Contrary to you - I know. So I don't know why you don't know. ah, I forget - the drugs he is taking ...

I asked Kristel a lot of things. Like how much they paid the technicians to get them to work on your ugly stinking head. But asking them about stuff they don't know about doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'm sure the voices in your head tell you otherwise though ..