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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    Originally posted by Jairus
    Great stuff cheers
    Let's see ...






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    • clandestine
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 2002

      Super quality photographs.

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      • JJJJrS
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 638

        Originally posted by 534623
        @JJJJrS – damn good work! Thanks.
        Now you know how “funny” (but also exciting!) such a work can be …
        Glad you appreciate it.

        And yes, if you're not a patient person, counting all these hairs could drive you crazy But its definitely interesting to observe the regeneration process and of course a nice feeling when everything is done.

        Originally posted by Brock Landers
        With everything healed up by day 7, i don't know how u can tell which hairs were which....?
        In addition to what Iron_Man said, you can often tell the regenerated hairs from the surrounding hairs just by observation. The regenerated hairs are much shorter than the surrounding hairs. For example, compare the length of hairs 76-82 to the surrounding hairs.

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          Originally posted by JJJJrS
          In addition to what Iron_Man said, you can often tell the regenerated hairs from the surrounding hairs just by observation. The regenerated hairs are much shorter than the surrounding hairs. For example, compare the length of hairs 76-82 to the surrounding hairs.
          Hehe, you didn't seem to care much about that before. But happy you finally seem to understand the concept and finally seem to believe regrowth is really happening, good for you !

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          • JJJJrS
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 638

            Originally posted by Arashi
            Hehe, you didn't seem to care much about that before. But happy you finally seem to understand the concept and finally seem to believe regrowth is really happening, good for you !
            I did an analysis of gc83uk's case before I ever joined the forums, a different area than Iron_Man analyzed, so I'm familiar with the process. Maybe one day I'll post that analysis.

            Regardless, it's always nice to get as much documentation as possible.

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            • Arashi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3888

              Originally posted by JJJJrS
              I did an analysis of gc83uk's case before I ever joined the forums, a different area than Iron_Man analyzed, so I'm familiar with the process. Maybe one day I'll post that analysis.

              Regardless, it's always nice to get as much documentation as possible.
              So, just purely out of interest then, what did you learn from this case that you didn't know before ?

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              • JJJJrS
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 638

                Originally posted by Arashi
                So, just purely out of interest then, what did you learn from this case that you didn't know before ?
                I'm really not interested in arguing in circles again, because we had this exact conversation days ago. Up until now, gc83uk, has been the only case that provided a hair count of the donor area, other than Gho's published studies. If you don't see any value in documenting more than one case, that's fine, but most people would disagree.

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  Originally posted by Arashi
                  Hehe...
                  ah, the drug addict from Holland is speaking ...

                  Hey drug addict,
                  why can't you ask Kristel a really simple question:

                  "I paid 1600 grafts for my ugly bald recipient area. How many drills did the technicians make in my ugly head to get these 1600 grafts I paid?"

                  I guess even Kristel's children are able to understand this simple question.

                  If she is asking you why you ask over and over the same (bull)shit - simply tell her the truth: the drugs you take do not work properly.

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    Originally posted by JJJJrS
                    I'm really not interested in arguing in circles again, because we had this exact conversation days ago. Up until now, gc83uk, has been the only case that provided a hair count of the donor area, other than Gho's published studies. If you don't see any value in documenting more than one case, that's fine, but most people would disagree.
                    I just find you very funny. First you say you don't even know for sure if hair's regenerate, but now you say you studied GC83UK's case. Didn't believe that one ? Then you said that short hairs in mine and Tobian's pictures didn't mean anything. Now you claim that they actually mean regrowth. You said scientifical arguments were needed but when one user asked on hairsite about failed extractions, you said a glance at the petridish and 3 lousy pictures of ironman's ugly misformed head were enough I just find your reasoning very funny, that's all

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                    • Arashi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3888

                      Originally posted by 534623
                      ah, the drug addict from Holland is speaking ...

                      Hey drug addict,
                      why can't you ask Kristel a really simple question:

                      "I paid 1600 grafts for my ugly bald recipient area. How many drills did the technicians make in my ugly head to get these 1600 grafts I paid?"

                      I guess even Kristel's children are able to understand this simple question.

                      If she is asking you why you ask over and over the same (bull)shit - simply tell her the truth: the drugs you take do not work properly.
                      Hey Schweinhund !! Haha some people like JJJR's thought you wouldn't post anymore. I knew you would, because you don't have any life at all except your digital one, in here you are "Iron man", out there just an ugly social reject. It's kind of sad.

                      But on topic (although you don't seem to care about it), if HASCI doesn't even keep count of 1s, 2s and 3s, what makes you think they count the drill amount ? Did you notice them doing that ? We both know they didn't, so not sure why you're making such a fool out of yourself AGAIN ?

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                      • 534623
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1854

                        Originally posted by Arashi

                        But on topic (although you don't seem to care about it), if HASCI doesn't even keep count of 1s, 2s and 3s, what makes you think they count the drill amount ? Did you notice them doing that ? We both know they didn't, so not sure why you're making such a fool out of yourself AGAIN ?
                        Why don't you ask Kristel, whether or not they do this?

                        And how do you know, that I don't know? Contrary to you - I know. So I don't know why you don't know. ah, I forgot - the crazy stuff you take ...

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          Originally posted by 534623
                          Why don't you ask Kristel, whether or not they do this?

                          And how do you know, that I don't know? Contrary to you - I know. So I don't know why you don't know. ah, I forget - the drugs he is taking ...
                          I asked Kristel a lot of things. Like how much they paid the technicians to get them to work on your ugly stinking head. But asking them about stuff they don't know about doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'm sure the voices in your head tell you otherwise though ..

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1854

                            Originally posted by Arashi

                            I asked Kristel a lot of things.
                            Sure, that's the reason why you still talk bullshit.

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                            • JJJJrS
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 638

                              Originally posted by Arashi
                              I just find you very funny. First you say you don't even know for sure if hair's regenerate, but now you say you studied GC83UK's case. Didn't believe that one ? Then you said you short hairs in mine and Tobian's pictures didn't mean anything. Now you claim that they actualy mean regrowth. You said scientifical arguments were needed but when one user asked on hairsite about failed extractions, you said a glance at the petridish and 3 lousy pictures of ironman's ugly misformed head were enough I just find your reasoning very funny, that's all
                              I'll respond to you one last time because I have no interest in arguing for 20 pages like I know you're capable of doing.

                              I never said I didn't believe in donor regeneration. I'm only interested in seeing as many documented cases as possible.

                              I also don't think you even understand exactly what you want. From what I can gather, you want someone to map their entire donor area and count thousands of hairs. I just finished counting 126 extraction points and it was very, very tedious! I'm not going to count thousands of hairs without a financial incentive. Nor do I think you'll find a patient willing to map their head like that. If you can, that would be great and I wish you all the best with your analysis.

                              The other thing that bothers me is that you want IM to do this when you just had your procedure yourself and could only give us a single small picture! I was a little harsh when I called it useless, but you can't compare the pictures you provided with IM's. If you count his extraction points, you'll see that he's taken a picture of more than half of them, if you look at his two ear photos and scars. This is a huge part of his donor area. We would be able to see if he had thousands of extractions and he simply doesn't. The analysis is therefore more than worthwhile.

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                              • 534623
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1854

                                Originally posted by 534623

                                Hey drug addict,
                                why can't you ask Kristel a really simple question:

                                "I paid 1600 grafts for my ugly bald recipient area. How many drills did the technicians make in my ugly head to get these 1600 grafts I paid?"

                                I guess even Kristel's children are able to understand this simple question.
                                By the way, drug addict,
                                guess why they ALWAYS make photos of each and every detail after every treatment step?
                                And yes, especially also from the hole donor area after extractions - so that such psychopaths like you can't talk bullshit thereafter.

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