NEW Dr Gho-Spencer interview*your thoughts?

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  • ccmethinning
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 317

    #46
    I know many of you are criticizing and finding suspicious Gho's intention to not share his procedure current HT doctors.

    Many of you think the "they would not like the increased labor intensity of the procedure" is BS.

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    As stated before, BTT intends to fully comply with Dr. Gho's request to discourage and moderate inappropriate, inaccurate, disparaging, intentionally argumentative and defamatory commentary concerning his colleagues, and other available hair restoration techniques (FUE/FUT) in relation to HST or Dr. Coen Gho himself.
    Last edited by Winston; 11-12-2012, 11:49 AM.

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    • gc83uk
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1339

      #47
      He didn't actually say he won't allow HT doctors to use his HST, he said he would 'prefer to train a non-HT doctor'.

      Without listening again to the recording, I'm sure Gho said he would visit another HT clinic to train a HT doctor on their own patients!

      The 13,000 guy, if this 1 patient refuses to allow Gho to show his photos or even have photos taken, then what is Gho supposed to do?

      I think Gho also said he has treated 5000 patients. I wonder what the % of patients document their cases on forums? 0.5% Seems about right then!

      HASCI can't keep up with demand hence the extra HASCI doctors/teams being trained.

      One by one the doubters are diminishing, a live HST next year and better published photos by Gho and also other new patients will hopefully help others make a more informed decision, until then believe what you want!

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      • JJJJrS
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 638

        #48
        At this point, there really is no need for any more interviews. Spencer did an excellent job addressing practically all the unanswered questions which remained from the first interview.

        Going forward, the effort should now be entirely on verifying the HST method. We already have a general idea how HST works and what the limitations are, now let's try to verify these claims.

        I think it's great that Dr. Gho has invited Spencer to visit the Netherlands and present a live HST surgery on his show, and that Spencer seems receptive to the idea. If that happens sometime next year, I really think that Spencer should continue to remain in touch with that patient and evaluate their results. I'm sure there's some dermatologist, lab, or hair specialist Spencer and Gho can agree on who will check for donor regeneration, recipient yield, and measure the diameter, texture of the regenerated and transplanted hairs.

        Even though watching a live HST surgery would be very interesting, I think most people won't be satisfied unless there's some verification of the method.

        In the meantime, hopefully some posters who are having procedures in the next two months can document their procedures. I'm sure Iron_Man and gc83uk can do a fantastic job and that may prove to be conclusive on it's own.

        I don't need a NW7 to NW1 transformation to be convinced. As long as Gho's basic claims are verified and confirmed, that's impressive enough for me.

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        • didi
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1360

          #49
          Broadcasting LIVE HST wont be proof in itself,
          It would be good if Spence brings some FUE doc with him so he can see exactly how the grafts are extracted or if the splitting is taking place.


          I find it strange that GHO doesnt wanna advertise HST and he prefer to use word of mouth, product that would make him a billionaire.

          Does hasci takes photos of all patients before they have procedure? I guess yes.
          Out of 5000 patients he shd be able to dig out 10-20 that will put an and to all this, its not too late hasci can give a call to some of these people and offer them money in exchange to photos, no face needed.

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1776

            #50
            Originally posted by didi
            Broadcasting LIVE HST wont be proof in itself,
            It would be good if Spence brings some FUE doc with him so he can see exactly how the grafts are extracted or if the splitting is taking place.


            I find it strange that GHO doesnt wanna advertise HST and he prefer to use word of mouth, product that would make him a billionaire.

            Does hasci takes photos of all patients before they have procedure? I guess yes.
            Out of 5000 patients he shd be able to dig out 10-20 that will put an and to all this, its not too late hasci can give a call to some of these people and offer them money in exchange to photos, no face needed.
            He doesn't need too - considering most HT surgeons rely on word of mouth.

            Do you ever see Dr Rahel for example advertising his HTs.

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            • 534623
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1854

              #51
              Originally posted by gc83uk

              I think Gho also said he has treated 5000 patients. I wonder what the % of patients document their cases on forums? 0.5% Seems about right then!
              I often read the question “Where are all the Gho-patients??

              The following is snippet from the ISHRS website:
              “The International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery is an international, non-profit medical association comprised of over 1000 physicians specializing in hair loss representing over 60 countries – dedicated to promulgating the highest standards of medical practice and medical ethics. The ISHRS provides continuing education to physicians specializing in hair transplant surgery and gives the public the latest information on medical and surgical treatments for hair loss.”
              So let’s assume there are 1000 HT doctors, spread all over the world – ok?

              Now we assume that all these 1000 HT doctors perform JUST ONE PROCEDURE PER WEEK – ok?

              That means, there are 1000 HT patients every week all over the world and finally 50,000 (!!) HT patients PER YEAR – ok?

              And now the really good question:
              Where are all these hair transplant patients??

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              • Delphi
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 517

                #52
                Originally posted by 534623
                I often read the question “Where are all the Gho-patients??

                The following is snippet from the ISHRS website:


                So let’s assume there are 1000 HT doctors, spread all over the world – ok?

                Now we assume that all these 1000 HT doctors perform JUST ONE PROCEDURE PER WEEK – ok?

                That means, there are 1000 HT patients every week all over the world and finally 50,000 (!!) HT patients PER YEAR – ok?

                And now the really good question:
                Where are all these hair transplant patients??
                The doctors who show their results online have dozens, if not hundreds of cases posted. All people want to see are a decent number of quality patient photos from Gho. Why is that too much to ask for? You guys are ridiculous already! It's not about the patients documenting their own cases, it's about the clinic documenting cases. Why is this even a discussion?

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                • didi
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1360

                  #53
                  IM
                  Wouldnt it be in HASCIs best interest to show as many photos as possible,

                  If they have technology as they claim they do it would potentionally make them very rich before other guys start catching up,

                  you see americans were first to invent atomic bomb but few years after that russians had it too and now even pakistanis and indians know how to make it


                  Its plain silly to only use word of mouth while wasting valuable time as hst honey moon will be over soon(as Gho said in Interview, yes theres always possibility that somebody copies him or invents their own version). Time is limited and he can end up like Woods did with fue.

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                  • ccmethinning
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 317

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Delphi
                    The doctors who show their results online have dozens, if not hundreds of cases posted.
                    How many doctors post their cases online? Dozens out of perhaps 1000?

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                    • didi
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1360

                      #55
                      Think Gho shd shut down his website, or at least gallery section

                      lets be unbiased and honest here

                      its been 7 years since birth of hst, 5000 cases and no wow results to show.
                      Illusive 13k graft guy, but no pic.is that the best HASCI can do

                      how can anyone defend that

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                      • didi
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1360

                        #56
                        How many doctors post their cases online? Dozens out of perhaps 1000?

                        This is different, Gho claims to be regenerating, something noone has ever done before and if one of these 1000 docs had HST you bet there would be plenty of photos

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                        • Delphi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 517

                          #57
                          Originally posted by ccmethinning
                          How many doctors post their cases online? Dozens out of perhaps 1000?
                          Let's say it's only 25 or 50, these are the doctors who are most talked about online. Doctors like Rahal and Cole. Why shouldn't Gho be held to the same standard? It makes no sense at all. He's making certain claims, yet he won't show the goods. We just want to see pictures, what's the big deal?

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            #58
                            I, for one, am scheduled for this wednesday. Excited!

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                            • 534623
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1854

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Arashi
                              I, for one, am scheduled for this wednesday. Excited!
                              Good luck! ... and maybe we can work together under 1 hat.

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                              • didi
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1360

                                #60
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                                - potassium chloride,
                                - magnesium sulphate,
                                - sodium phosphate,
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                                - glucose,
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                                - and a-tocopherol (vitamin E)

                                Again, all these component are just the MAIN components.
                                That means, that there are also other components involved. "



                                secret 'Gho juice' formula is out, Dr Cole and others can play with it

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