NEW Dr Gho-Spencer interview*your thoughts?

[yeahyeahyeah]

I have a few points to make about interview that I find a bit odd


first..
50K is bargain, what about royalties or commision?Takes 6-9 months to train 1 doc + 2nurses+ you get all the equipment, operating theater.
Its makes it the only legal business I know of where you can get your invested money back in 1 WEEK?
Whats the catch? He could easily ask 200k for sucha course+equipment


second point is
5000 patients over 7 years = 714 per year or 60 a month = 3 patients a day every dayfor the past 7 years

You can see that number is very high, no many fue/fut clinics can match that unless they are big chain clinics and out of these 5000 heads he couldnt find 10 patients with remarkable transformation, in 7 years?

Argument before was that Gho started 5 years ago with very small sessions, 700 grafts or so and thats why its not possible to to see high NW thats fixed
BUT Gho mentioned 13 000 grafts man over 7 years(2005) with 9 sessions, if you do math you will see that each session must have been around 1400-1500 grafts, something he normally gives today.
its reasonable to assume that this '13000 man' wasnt the only case who started 7 years ago and who received high number of grafts, where are the rest, is that all Gho can produce over 7 years and 5000 patients? Verbal claim with no photograpgic evidence

third..
Also he is way too conserbvative with his aproach, Spencer asked him directly 'if money and time is not an issue could you give full head of hair to nw6/7'? (Listen Interview 10:15)

He answers in theory yes but cant copy mother nature, density that mother nature gave us is very very high and they cant give you that but they can give you 50-60 sometimes 70 g/cm2...well that almost normal density, average is anywhere from 70-90..he made it sound like he cant come even close but then he can give you 80-90% of original density


second the age, 'if someone is 50 yo and wants 18 old hairline they dont do it bc of the future 10/20/30 years down the track'...

His answer dont make any sense or he delibertly dodged the question in a nice way, if someone is that old, have $$$$, time not issue, and wants 18 yo hairline wth is the problem?There are many people with normal hairlines when they are old, think Ronald Reagan
And what 20-30 years onwards have to do for a 50 yo man who will be dead in that time.

If you fix NW6/7 of any age be it 30 yo or 70 makes no diff, future is irrelevant unless guy progresses to nw10. That ex nw7 will be fine in 20 years and 40 years as nobody becomes nw10.

Spence asked him good question but he danced around it,
My question is
Can HST give slick bald nw6 hairline of 18yo with coverage between 50-70g/cm2 if $ and time no issue? ...its not like you gonna run out of donor

I think that if ANYONE is planning to go to Gho.

They should NOT get FUE or FUT done, the best scalps that will benefit from this will be virgin scalps.

secondly the average total amount of donor hair we have is 7-8k. Find it bizarre how he can only achieve 50% density. Seen good results on guys after 10k donor hair.

[JJacobs152]

Dude, are you like angry at life? Or hate yourself? First and foremost learn how to speak to people. Ccalling someone you've never met, or even have the slightest idea of, stupid over the internet, is just odd and makes yourself look bad.

It takes real courage fella to talk like that in a message board...on the internet..., so keep it up Braveheart. I asked a question, I don't appreciate your response. Stop masturbating to Dr. Gho. Calm down, I wasn't discrediting him, try reading my post again.

Tone it down a bit Rumpelstiltskin.

lol. made my night...

[NeedHairASAP]

So is the guy with 13,000 HST grafts tapped out or thats just the most-to-date??

[didi]

Believe nothing of what you hear—and only half of what you see!

[hairysituation]

The entire interview was basically a repeat of the last one with somme additional information. Very entertaining.

"One guy had 13 000 grafts, but I can´t show the photos"

- Really? Not even a head shot after being "cured" for his baldness?

"I can´t train experienced HT docs"

- Probably because they can evaluate the technique properly aka busting the scam.

"They will probably think it´s too labour intensive"

- Let them decide for themselves.

It´s funny how some people still believe this guy.

[534623]

It´s funny how some people still believe this guy.

What exactly shouldn't people believe this guy?

[hairysituation]

Because his claims dosen´t match the results.

Rationalization is all he does. But I like him. Very entertaining indeed.

[534623]

Because his claims dosen´t match the results

Which claims and which results?

[garethbale]

What exactly shouldn't people believe this guy?

erm...the fact there seems to be this guy who has 13,000 grafts but no photos exist...strangely.

Or that he can't (meaning won't) train HT surgeons.

The guy is just desperate for this to remain a mystery

[534623]

erm...the fact there seems to be this guy who has 13,000 grafts but no photos exist...strangely.

I often ask such guys like you always the same question:

PLEASE post HQ photos of your current hair loss status. Thanks in advance. If you don't post any photos - strangely ...

[garethbale]

I often ask such guys like you always the same question:

PLEASE post HQ photos of your current hair loss status. Thanks in advance. If you don't post any photos - strangely ...

Yes you did ask before and I refused, which is my right. The burden of proof is not on me as I am making no claims. The burden of proof lies on Gho to prove his claims. He has a chance to show us a photo of a guy who has been 'cured' and he refuses. What do you expect us to think?

And what the HELL does my hair have to do with Dr Gho???!!

[534623]

Yes you did ask before and I refused, which is my right.

Sure, Dr. Gho's patients do not have such rights - right?

I find you highly suspect ...

[garethbale]

Sure, Dr. Gho's patients do not have such rights - right?

I find you highly suspect ...

Oh God you really do not understand, so I will spell it out for you in capitals...

THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON DR GHO TO PROVE HIS CLAIMS, YET HE IS REFUSING TO SHOW PHOTOS. HOW CAN WE BE EXPECTED TO BELIEVE ANYTHING HE SAYS OR DOES WHEN HE DOES NOT SHOW US EVIDENCE?

Ok?

[534623]

The burden of proof lies on Gho to prove his claims. He has a chance to show us a photo of a guy ...

Claims?

There is a guy, in this case Spencer Kobren, who is asking Dr. Gho the question. And Dr. Gho gave him an answer. And?

Why didn't he told him that he has 100 or at least 10 of such 13k graft patients?

For example: Everyone in the Netherlands knows that Mr. Gerard Joling already got ~5000 HST grafts. Everything is well documented - even on television. And now the really good question:
Is it really so hard to believe that Mr. Joling could still have twice or even thrice as much HST grafts?
With traditional HT techniques - surely NOT.

[garethbale]

Claims?

There is a guy, in this case Spencer Kobren, who is asking Dr. Gho the question. And Dr. Gho gave him an answer. And?

Why didn't he told him that he has 100 or at least 10 of such 13k graft patients?

For example: Everyone in the Netherlands knows that Mr. Gerard Joling already got ~5000 HST grafts. Everything is well documented - even on television. And now the really good question:
Is it really so hard to believe that Mr. Joling could still have twice or even thrice as much HST grafts?
With traditional HT techniques - surely NOT.

Joling's results don't look great so far, but its too early to say so I cannot comment on that. It's possible I suppose, however my 39 year old brother is balding and is hair looks like Joling's, and my brother hasn't has a transplant.

Your first point makes no sense however...you say Gho gave him an answer. If you are referring to the case of the 13,000 grafts then that is hardly an answer. A proper answer would have been, 'yes, we have photos/videos available on our website'.
That would enable us to see the results for ourselves. But he refuses. Why?
We want to see positive answers, not answers that dodge the question.

Saying he has had thousands of 13K patients proves nothing either until photographic evidence is shown. Why are none of these photos posted on forums? By the same logic I could claim to have treated thousands of patients but like Gho, I have no proof of this.

He also refuses to share his technique with hair surgeons when he previously said he would. Why?

Does it not seem strange that, unlike traditional HT surgeons who market their results, Gho has no interest in doing this?