HASCI - -How well does it work? Now we'll be able to find out!

[Arashi]

I don't. Sorry.

Well I have been staring for hours at the wounds pictures, just couldn't figure out how to link them to the before/after pictures but I've just managed to do it ! Exciting stuff, I was getting bored with this, but now that I've managed to link the wound pictures, it's become so much easier AND will yield a much better result ! I already noticed that not all transplanted grafts survived (like HASCI always claimed), this is what made the linking harder.

I'll upload the linked pictures soon

[shazam]

HASCI seems to have achieved a very good result with Wesley Sneijder...

[AlmostUndone]

@Almostundone: do you have a way of linking one of the wound pictures to a before or after picture ? This would be extremely helpful ! Right now, it's sometimes really hard to see if there's a new graft or if it's just the same graft as before (especially if there's a graft with 'lighter' colour in the before picture, it might be that it's a dying graft and if there's a much 'darker' graft in pretty much the same spot, it looks like a new graft, but we can't know 100% sure. A link with the wounds pictures would remove the doubt here).

I don't. Sorry.

[Arashi]

My latest progress update:

After HST recipient photo's:

https://www.hasci-exposed.com/after_B4_more_LEFT.bmp

https://www.hasci-exposed.com/after_B8.bmp

www.hasci-exposed.com/after_B9_main.bmp (the 'main' after photo)

https://www.hasci-exposed.com/after_B10_RIGHT.bmp

Before HST recipient photo's:
www.hasci-exposed.com/before_main.bmp (the 'main' before photo)

https://www.hasci-exposed.com/before2.bmp

@Almostundone: do you have a way of linking one of the wound pictures to a before or after picture ? This would be extremely helpful ! Right now, it's sometimes really hard to see if there's a new graft or if it's just the same graft as before (especially if there's a graft with 'lighter' colour in the before picture, it might be that it's a dying graft and if there's a much 'darker' graft in pretty much the same spot, it looks like a new graft, but we can't know 100% sure. A link with the wounds pictures would remove the doubt here).

Anyway all this is a huge job, I'm not sure how much time I'll have the coming weeks but I guess this is going to take a while ...

[AlmostUndone]

Anyway I'll now only need to go over the whole area again, add missing circles and count everything. But I'm tired of all this right now, will continue next week and do something else with my free time than count hairs, for a change

That's a good idea probably. I'm surprised how well you're doing. I feel like that everything would have taken twice as long for me. I might compile the last 'wound' pictures soon just in case!

Tip: For counting purposes, it's not necessary to map all of the blue areas, as 99% of their surface show no new hairs.

[Arashi]

So a little progress update, here's where I'm at right now:

After HST recipient photo's:

https://www.hasci-exposed.com/after_B4_more.bmp

https://www.hasci-exposed.com/after_B8.bmp

www.hasci-exposed.com/after_B9_main.bmp (the 'main' after photo)

https://www.hasci-exposed.com/after_B10.bmp

Before HST recipient photo's:
www.hasci-exposed.com/before_main.bmp (the 'main' before photo)

https://www.hasci-exposed.com/before2.bmp

As you can see, I've used 2 before photo's and 4 after photo's. As we need to determine how much new hairs were added to your recipient, the after photo quality for the recipient needs to be better than the before photo's, which are only needed to pinpoint the new grafts. Hence I needed 4 after photo's and 'only' 2 before photo's.

As you can see in the main before photo: www.hasci-exposed.com/before_main.bmp I've mapped the whole area. The only part that's not mapped in much detail is the temple part, this is because it's really hard to map. To me it SEEMS that most/all of the hairs there died and got replace with fresh donor ones, because the hairs are mostly very thin in the before photo's and very thick in the after photo's. So I'm tempted to count all hairs in that area as new ones. Luckily these are all singles, so if there's an error there it doesn't skew the result too much.

Anyway I'll now only need to go over the whole area again, add missing circles and count everything. But I'm tired of all this right now, will continue next week and do something else with my free time than count hairs, for a change

[Arashi]

Thanks mate, these are helpful indeed !

One week per temple was a bit too optimistic it seems now, I figured I only needed 1 before and 1 after photo but that's impossible unfortunately sine there's no 1 photo that shows the whole area sharp enough. So we need several photo's. Luckily you've shot enough, so it's just a matter of time and dedication ...

[AlmostUndone]

You could start with those, although I didn't take much time into rotating them for you.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81057175/after_left_addendum281016.jpg

Here's one picture so you can see more of the B4 angle:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81057175/B4_more.jpg

[Arashi]

@Almostundone:

Any idea what's up with the angle of the hairs in recipient_after_left photo b7 ? It's the only photo that shows the lower part of your left recipient but the angles of the hairs are really different than the angles in B4. This makes linking it way harder. Don't you have a photo of this area where the angles are like in B4 ?

Thanks !

[Arashi]

Yesterday and today I've been mapping/linking more area, encircled more transplanted grafts (I just uploaded the new version to the link in post 231) and I've started mapping/linking a different after photo: http://www.hasci-exposed.com/B88_after.bmp
This extra photo was VERY helpful to better determine the amount of transplanted hair and also correcting some errors (I still have to correct some, there are some errors that I saw already, didnt have time yet to correct).
So, quite some progress again, but also still a long road ahead ...

[Arashi]

I had a few hours today to work on it again, I'm uploading my progress again (might take a while to display).

Changes:
* mapped upper right corner of the pictures
* mapped a big part of the upper left corner of the pictures
* removed yellow numbering (numbering grafts that appear in both after and before is useless)
* started adding numbering for transplanted grafts (white font)
* changed colour of circles for transplanted grafts from red to white (better noticeable)
* added a 'c' into all area's that I've double checked (I'm only inserting that 'c' into the before pictures) both for it being correct as for having marked died/transplanted grafts.
* marked more transplanted grafts
* minor corrections

Again can't see any more hairs for today, tomorrow a new day ..

[Arashi]

Thanks mate, I've compared your initial work to my progress, it adds up and validates it

I've been working more on the left part of the pictures, linking and mapping and I've started to mark transplanted hair with red tiny circles (I should probably change colour since the red doesn't jump out enough).

Man it's a hell of a job But I'm hoping that end of this week I'm done with the left recipient.

Anyway I've uploaded the updated versions again, see post 231

(I've uploaded them but the site is still displaying the previous version, I guess due to caching or something).

Anyway enough for today, can't see any more hairs !

[AlmostUndone]

I think you've got alot of great work done Arashi.

I had done some initial work but I've no time to do more:
Left: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/..._scaffold1.jpg
Right: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/..._scaffold1.jpg


Here's some 'wounds' pics I picked for the left side. Probably not very helpful, but you decide:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81057175/recipient_wouds_left_95.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81057175/recipient_wouds_left_95_addendum.jpg

BTW to me it seems that you drew those blue area's based on the wounds pictures, correct ? Maybe you have some work there, would be really helpful if you had for example wounds pictures with the same blue area's drawn.

No, you are wrong. The blue areas have nothing to do with the wound pics. I drew the blue lines for areas, where I saw no new hairs between before/after.

[Arashi]

Uploading new versions again, made some improvements but the area closest to the temple is still a bit uncertain.

One thing I hoped wasn't necessary is to look at the 'wounds' pictures, since just linking before to after by just looking at those 2 is a lot faster. But I think that I'll do that too, to get a better idea of where the new grafts SHOULD be. Anyway, still tons of work to do ...

BTW to me it seems that you drew those blue area's based on the wounds pictures, correct ? Maybe you have some work there, would be really helpful if you had for example wounds pictures with the same blue area's drawn.

[Arashi]

And uploading new versions. Man it's so easy to make a mistake when a hair in the before photo died and a new graft got transplanted close by. But it's relatively easy to spot errors because the geometrical forms between the lines in the before and after photo will be different, so I think this methodology works quite nice. All-in-all I think I can get the current mapping near perfect but the temple itself will remain difficult.

Anyway I'll keep checking my current progress first and when I feel confident my current work is near perfect I'll post it here.