a documented case of the 9 procedures= 13.000 grafts in HASCI would solve everything

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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    #16
    How many years has Dr. Gho had to show a 9 session patient to validate his claims?

    How many more years will it be before he either proves his technique or we dismiss him completely?

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    • 534623
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1854

      #17
      Originally posted by hellouser

      How many years has Dr. Gho had to show a 9 session patient to validate his claims?
      The time it took to perform the 9 sessions: around 5 minutes or so.
      Originally posted by hellouser
      How many more years will it be before he either proves his technique or we dismiss him completely?
      With "we" I guess you mean jobless guys like you who would immediately spend >60k euros for a full head of hair with his HST technique, provided of course, if he can prove his technique - right?

      I think you should rather dismiss him immediately & completely ...

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        #18
        Originally posted by 534623
        Ah, really??

        Actually, YOU should tell me and calculate my personal failed extraction ratio ...

        To whom it may concern, HASCI's 85% donor regeneration claim has been the subject of debate on internet forums for a long time, mostly fueled by the fact that HASCI never presented an independent patient case for verification and analysis. As (potential) patients wanted to find out if their therapy works as advertised,


        But because I could see that you was always so busy with just tolling, he he and smilie posts everywhere, I simply did it myself. But feel free to review my calculated failed extraction ratio. If you can find more than 2200 extraction holes for the 1400 grafts from the 1st HST - please let me know.
        Who cares ? It's not going to prove anything at all. I find it quite amazing that after all this time you still don't seem to get it. While it's really easy to understand actually. If you want to know anything about regrowth, you should know three things:

        1) How many hairs (not FU's) were there in the donor before the surgery
        2) How many hairs (not FU's) are there in the donor after the surgery
        3) How many hairs (not FU's) were gained in recipient.

        If any of those 3 fail, it's impossible to come up with a meaningful number. And in your case, number 1 AND 3 fail.

        Also, you keep talking about FU's, something which is totally meaningless and irrelevant with HST (since Gho seems to split grafts). 80% FU regrowth might equal 20% hair loss.

        Again, that's why a 50 graft test is the only way to finally get to the bottom of this. Something you, for obvious reasons, don't want to take place. And HASCI doesn't seem too eager neither, still trying to arrange for it but after 2 months of my first request (!!) I still can't say if they're going to do it ... My prediction was they were going to try to stall, stall and stall and in the end come up with some BS reason why they can't do it. That first part already is happening ...

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        • 534623
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 1854

          #19
          Originally posted by Arashi

          If you want to know anything about regrowth, you should know three things:

          1) How many hairs (not FU's) were there in the donor before the surgery
          I know the exact number - simply because I took analyzable photos.

          Originally posted by Arashi
          2)

          How many hairs (not FU's) are there in the donor after the surgery
          I know the exact number - simply because I took analyzable photos also after the procedures.

          Originally posted by Arashi

          3) How many hairs (not FU's) were gained in recipient.
          I know the exact number - simply because I took analyzable photos also from the recipent area(s).

          And yeah, actually due to my personal analysis of 1) - 3) - I booked HST procedure number 3 already.

          How about you?
          Did you book already your FUE procedure in Turkey to fight at least partially against your future slick bald NW6 head?

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          • 534623
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1854

            #20
            Originally posted by Arashi

            Again, that's why a 50 graft test is the only way to finally get to the bottom of this. Something you, for obvious reasons, don't want to take place.
            Can you please QUOTE or provide a SOURCE of you claim?

            I guess NO ...

            Oh, and can you explain why, for example, I created this thread ...

            The pic above is a modified snippet from Dr. Gho’s published HST study in 2010 (http://www.hasci.com/uploads/files/November_2010_journal_of_dermatological_treatment.pdf). First, the advantage of the pic above is - it enables interested viewers to see, with one look, how the HST technique works. As you can see, Dr.

            ... ?

            It is, in fact, YOU ...
            Originally posted by Arashi
            Ironman has totally lost it. This useless thread perfectly points that out
            ... who called such threads about this particular issue "useless".

            So the question is rather who is really the one who is losing it completely ...

            Btw - Could you please stop making lots of bold claims without providing any legit proof?
            I mean, just making bold claims in general without providing any legit proof is getting really annoying ...

            Anyway, from now on I will simply report each and every bold claim you make to Winston. I think he is the one who should deal with your annoying bold claims.

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            • 534623
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1854

              #21
              Originally posted by Arashi

              Who cares ? It's not going to prove anything at all. I find it quite amazing...
              Oops - I forgot to mention it in my previous post ...

              Yeah, I find it quite amazing too, that all of the sudden counting ALL extraction holes "doesn't prove anything at all"!

              Sorry, but it was YOU who hijacked every HST thread in the past with your annoying "failed extraction" agenda and all of the sudden "who cares - iIt's not going to prove anything at all" ... pffffft ...

              Man, come on, instead of visiting lots of plastic surgeons and hair transplant doctors, I think it's rather time for you to visit good psychologists. I mean really - just as a good advise ...

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #22
                So you claim you've made all the photo's needed in order to come to valid conclusions regarding regrowth, yet you don't want to post them ?

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  #23
                  Originally posted by 534623
                  Sorry, but it was YOU who hijacked every HST thread in the past with your annoying "failed extraction" agenda and all of the sudden "who cares - iIt's not going to prove anything at all" ... pffffft ...
                  I think you're just trolling as usual, but of course failed extractions don't yield a number regarding regrowth, it's just one of the factors you need to get to a valid number, not the sole factor. I hope you're just trolling, cause if you really still don't understand that concept ... wow ...

                  Anyway, you either post photo's to back up your claim or I stop responding cause discussion with you in two years has led to exactly NOTHING. We still know NOTHING regarding regrowth (only that it was below 40% for GC, possibly 0). We need a 50 graft test and HASCI at least isn't eager to accept that, been waiting 2 months now ... And I still think they'll come up with an excuse to not do it ...

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                  • 534623
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1854

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Arashi

                    Anyway, you either post photo's to back up your claim or I stop responding...
                    Sounds like a embracery ...

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                    • JJJJrS
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 638

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      I think you're just trolling as usual, but of course failed extractions don't yield a number regarding regrowth, it's just one of the factors you need to get to a valid number, not the sole factor. I hope you're just trolling, cause if you really still don't understand that concept ... wow ...

                      Anyway, you either post photo's to back up your claim or I stop responding cause discussion with you in two years has led to exactly NOTHING. We still know NOTHING regarding regrowth (only that it was below 40% for GC, possibly 0). We need a 50 graft test and HASCI at least isn't eager to accept that, been waiting 2 months now ... And I still think they'll come up with an excuse to not do it ...
                      Don't waste your time on it. Iron_Man is a shill for HASCI. The numbers he came up with are made up (like that 80% figure which I know for a fact is not true).

                      Keep us updated on the 50 graft test, because that counts for a lot more than IM useless "analysis."

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                      • 534623
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1854

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Arashi

                        ...I stop responding cause discussion with you in two years has led to exactly NOTHING.
                        Arashi - Join Date: Aug 2012

                        Sure, two years ...

                        In fact, you stalk me since Aug 2012 just due to my "gc & Ironman work under 1 hat" comment here at BTT. But at least your psychiatric stalking and trolling behaviour since Aug 2012 openend interested users the eyes ... absolutely... now they know more than before just because of you ...

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                        • cocacola
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 222

                          #27
                          Arashi, in another thread u said u got some sort of answer back. Can you share whats up?

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            #28
                            Originally posted by cocacola
                            Arashi, in another thread u said u got some sort of answer back. Can you share whats up?
                            No answer yet whether they want to do it or not (exactly like I predicted). Will share of course when I know more.

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                            • 534623
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1854

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Arashi
                              So you claim you've made all the photo's needed in order to come to valid conclusions regarding regrowth, yet you don't want to post them ?
                              btw - Did I say anywhere "I don't want to post them"?
                              Even in this thread I posted more information than a completely useless guy like you will ever be able to provide.

                              In fact, since you registered here at BTT (Aug 2012), you just blocked everything (what has been the intention of -lets say - "third parties" too) and other users confirmed the latter - should I quote them?

                              Anyway, and that simply means, as soon as you get banned FOREVER - everyone can get every (verifiable) information, data, photos whatever they want. An easy deal - isn't it? Totally easy ...

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                              • 534623
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1854

                                #30
                                Originally posted by cocacola
                                Arashi, in another thread u said u got some sort of answer back. Can you share whats up?
                                What do you expect?
                                Arashi's countless "I emailed Kristel..." posts led always to nowhere! Then he always says "I don't understand her answer" ... pffffft ...

                                Am I the only one who noticed this?

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