HASCI breaktrough information, when?

[hellouser]

Man, it's way too thin already in non sunlight. Here's a picture I just shot (click on it to zoom) -> http://cdn.imghack.se/images/0c69f55...098112a7a5.jpg (also notice how Kristel messed up a lot of the angles of the hair ! It's what they call a bad transplant result)

If I shoot a picture in direct sunlight, it's like there's no hair on my temples at all ...

The only thing I can do is either go back for another session (which is what HASCI generally advices) or keep cutting my hair at 3 mm, which looks better. Again, all this can be explained if you look at the low hair/graft number they transplant. To fill up your temples and lower hairline with 2-3 cm you need a LOT more than 850 grafts (which equals effectively the 1600 HST grafts).

So it's not just that you CAN go back more times to HASCI, you actually NEED to go back more times to get a decent density ..

That's terribly sparse. Worse than my thinning hair... what is that, like 10 grafts per 1cm/2?

[ss1980]

I was gonna say the same thing, I dnt think there is 1600 grafts growing there. I would contact them in regards to angles, its not acceptable, im sure they didnt make same mistake on wesley schneider

[Arashi]

That's terribly sparse. Worse than my thinning hair... what is that, like 10 grafts per 1cm/2?

The whole area they did is about 20-30 grafts/cm2 but as you can see, there are tons of single hair graft, which causes it to be so sparse. 20-30/cm2 HST grafts is just nowhere enough for decent coverage on such an area. And the angles are indeed like the transplant was done by a bad clinic.

So, to 'hide' both issues I just have to shave my hair to about 3 mm. Which I like by the way and then it looks ok. But still, you dont take a transplant to keep your hair at 3 mm ..

[Arashi]

So, to 'hide' both issues I just have to shave my hair to about 3 mm. Which I like by the way and then it looks ok. But still, you dont take a transplant to keep your hair at 3 mm ..

And then it looks like this (just shaved) -> http://cdn.imghack.se/images/562e37f...80f6a226c5.jpg
It actually looks better this way than before my procedure and I like my hair short, so I'm still happy I did it, however I'm now bound to either keep my hair short forever or go for another procedure. BTW, if you zoom in you can still see how the angles on tons of hair is very incorrect. But at 3mm it's luckily difficult to see with the naked eye. Still, artistically very poor work ...

[NeedHairASAP]

And then it looks like this (just shaved) -> http://cdn.imghack.se/images/562e37f...80f6a226c5.jpg
It actually looks better this way than before my procedure and I like my hair short, so I'm still happy I did it, however I'm now bound to either keep my hair short forever or go for another procedure. BTW, if you zoom in you can still see how the angles on tons of hair is very incorrect. But at 3mm it's luckily difficult to see with the naked eye. Still, artistically very poor work ...

That would be my one complaint about hasci too.... mine went in at a poor angle too.

I wear my hear long though and am really happy with the result. i haven't seen it shaved since the procedure... would be interesting to see.

[534623]

It actually looks ...

...like that the guy who says he earns tons of money with stock trading is unable to buy a cheap digital camera for around 100 bucks which enables to take sharp photos.

On the other hand, it seems your camera tells the truth: I can see tons of 2 and 3 hair grafts in this photo (lol) and dr. Gho's growing hairs appear thicker and stronger than all the other natural hairs on your head!

Concerning the angle of the hairs:
I mean, seriously, when you look at this photo ...


... perhaps sometimes Kristel didn't know anymore where's the back and where the front of your head?

[Arashi]

what is that, like 10 grafts per 1cm/2?

Actually I wanted to find that out and I just did. Look here:

http://cdn.imghack.se/images/0f477b6aa4bbd029c58098345a9fcbe7.jpg

http://cdn.imghack.se/images/031f84176c97e9f7a3acfb30355f78e6.jpg

http://cdn.imghack.se/images/a2cd7f2c7921b648606634bae41c72ab.jpg

http://cdn.imghack.se/images/36d883d1d50b086755899eb84c1d28db.jpg

The shape I cut is a far from cut perfectly, lol, but it's pretty close to a square cm. You'll see that the grafts/cm2 are not the problem, actually they're quite good, ranging from about 25-30 to about 50-60. But again, it's just the fact that HASCI transplants very low hair/graft numbers (probably because they're just splitting grafts), and hence you need to go twice for the same area to get a normal looking density. In some of the squares you barely even see doubles, only singles !

If I had the same density with an average hair/graft count (2.5 hair/graft), the result would look natural dense, at least for that 50-60 gr/cm2 area.

[Arashi]

That would be my one complaint about hasci too.... mine went in at a poor angle too.

Which doctor did you have ? Mine was Kristel. I find it quite amazing that when you have to pay 8500 eur for 1600 HST grafts (which correlates to the density of about 850 normal grafts, so you effectively pay about 10 eur/graft !! Pretty sure that makes HASCI the most expensive clinic in the world), that you get a doctor who doesn't understand how to get the angle right. And what I also found very disturbing is that a trainee took over the extractions during lunch hour. You pay the highest rate in the world and then you get a trainee doing work on you ?

[ss1980]

Angles plus as IM said transplanted hair appears thicker and strOnger than your other hair causin unnutural , detectable hair transplant

[ss1980]

It can be fixed by gettin another hst but make sure person doin is competent

[Arashi]

Angles plus as IM said transplanted hair appears thicker and strOnger than your other hair causin unnutural , detectable hair transplant

Yeah a good doctor mixes all grafts from different areas. Kristel did also a bad job there. However that i actually dont mind that much its imposible to see with the naked eye

[Arashi]

It can be fixed by gettin another hst but make sure person doin is competent

Yeah for sure wouldnt go back to kristel even if they offered it for free.

[534623]

Angles plus as IM said transplanted hair appears thicker and strOnger than your other hair causin unnutural , detectable hair transplant

You mean the around 60% single hair grafts and the around 40% 2-hair grafts? btw - a ~60/40 ratio is "standard" for the HST technique! So that's no "dirty secret" anymore and the know and store these data from every procedure/patient.

Anyway, and now TRY TO IMAGINE how it would look like (Arashi's pic) with lots of thick 3-hair or even 4-hair grafts!

Sure, more hair, but an UGLY pluggy look.....

The most natural way to restore this is single hair grafts and 2 hair grafts. Anything larger looks like a transplant.

Sure, Dr. Cole meant in this context the restoration of the crown area, but you can apply exactly the same for the front area as well, especially hairline/temple areas!

[Arashi]

Anyway, and now TRY TO IMAGINE how it would look like (Arashi's pic) with lots of thick 3-hair or even 4-hair grafts!

LOL and now you're even DEFENDING HASCI's ultra low hair/graft count If all snakeoil salesmen would have only customers like you and JarJarbinx, they'd have the time of their lives and all be multimillionaires in no time

[Arashi]

You mean the around 60% single hair grafts and the around 40% 2-hair grafts? btw - a ~60/40 ratio is "standard" for the HST technique!

I'd say it's closer to 70% single hair and 30% double actually. And of the 1600 grafts I got, exactly 2 grafts had 3 hairs. So, effectively when you pay for 1600 'grafts' you only get the same number of hairs that other clinics give you with 850 grafts.