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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    #16
    Spencer called this the holy grail in the interview with Dr. Mwamba. If he views this that highly, why doesn't Spencer get involved too? We've got a large community, we've all pissed away a large amount of cash, I'm sure we could fund his trip down to meet with Dr. Mwamba and/or Dr. Nigam for validation. If Spencer says its good, then we all know we're basically saved.

    I'm ready to throw down cash for Spencer.

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      #17
      Originally posted by didi
      No response yet? Normally he is quick to respond, Im sure he totally understands importance of this case, it cant be overstated, whole hair loss world is watching this with interest.

      What are your guys predictions about Thane?

      Disappear? mediocre HT aka combover? Full head of hair/15 000 grafts+?
      My prediction: Either he won't operate at all on Thane, or Thane disappears after surgery or he'll only do like 2k grafts.

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      • didi
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1360

        #18
        Originally posted by gc83uk
        No response yet, but he always does respond to be fair to him.

        Predictions from me is he'll operate on Thane, hopefully 4000-5000 grafts. I haven't checked out his donor, so not sure what is possible exactly?

        Assuming the above happens then I reckon they'll get 50% regrowth in the donor using the donovo method and instead of recipient growing 2 FU's for each extraction, I think it'll be slightly less than that. Still bloody amazing though if he can do it.

        What do you think will happen?



        I went from fanboy to sceptic and now that Dr Nigams met with Dr mwamba he has gone a few notches up in my books.

        As for Thane, its tough one to call,

        34% Thane will disappear/Dr Nigam wont operate on him for whatever reason
        33% Thane will end up with some sort of mediocre comb over, nothing Dr Umar cant do
        33% Thane will receive 15 000 graft+(which he needs) and looks amazing



        To me all these outcomes have about the same chances

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        • gc83uk
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1339

          #19
          Originally posted by Arashi
          My prediction: Either he won't operate at all on Thane, or Thane disappears after surgery or he'll only do like 2k grafts.
          lol I hope you are not always this negative in life, I guess it's just because of all the disappointments up to now.

          Mwamba has obviously seen something. I doubt he would go public if he thought it was a load of bs.

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            #20
            Originally posted by gc83uk
            lol I hope you are not always this negative in life, I guess it's just because of all the disappointments up to now.

            Mwamba has obviously seen something. I doubt he would go public if he thought it was a load of bs.
            Hehe, I once was very optimistic regarding HASCI, remember ?

            It's just that pretty much all previous Nigam's patients disappeared into nowhere. And I still highly doubt the can give this guy a full head of hair. We've seen no credible proof uptil now. All we have is the fact that Mwamba is enthousiastic. But even he admitted that he doesn't know it works. So yeah, I have really high doubts he's going to really accept the challenge. Would love to be proven wrong of course, in fact, if he can give Thane 16k grafts, I'm on that plane to India

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            • didi
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1360

              #21
              I theory Thane can get 16k via normal INVITRO doubling, 100% growth at both ends.

              BUT If Im to bet Id say it wont happen and Dr Nigma will come up with some excuse like 'shit, Thanes got HIV and I cant operate on him'

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #22
                Originally posted by didi
                BUT If Im to bet Id say it wont happen and Dr Nigma will come up with some excuse like 'shit, Thanes got HIV and I cant operate on him'
                Yup, that's what I think too. "Oh I cant operate on him, he's got herpes", something like that

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  #23
                  But most probably the excuse will be: "Thane doesn't want me to use all of his donor, he doesn't want to risk losing all of his donor and has doubts my therapy works. So I can only use 20% of donor which translates into 1000 grafts" or something like that. And then we have to wait 9 months to see the result of 1000 grafts and still won't know if it works, cause all photo's will be shady like we're used to.

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                  • gc83uk
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1339

                    #24
                    Originally posted by didi
                    I theory Thane can get 16k via normal INVITRO doubling, 100% growth at both ends.

                    BUT If Im to bet Id say it wont happen and Dr Nigma will come up with some excuse like 'shit, Thanes got HIV and I cant operate on him'
                    If you were Thane, would you rather have:
                    5000 Denovo
                    70% regrowth donor
                    10,000 Grafts in recip

                    Or

                    5000 Invitro
                    100% regrowth donor
                    5000 grafts in recip.

                    That question is to both Didi and Arashi?

                    Those maths above are correct aren't they? Surely it would be better to keep the donor pristine. And repeat Invitro process 2 or 3 times over the course of 1 year.

                    I am assuming you can re-extract the same grafts 6 months later from the donor using Invitro, can you confirm?

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                    • Arashi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3888

                      #25
                      Originally posted by gc83uk
                      If you were Thane, would you rather have:
                      5000 donor Denovo
                      70% regrowth
                      10,000 Grafts in recip

                      Or

                      5000 Invitro
                      100% regrowth donor
                      5000 grafts in recip.

                      That question is to both Didi and Arashi?

                      Those maths above are correct aren't they? Surely it would be better to keep the donor pristine. And repeat Invitro process 2 or 3 times over the course of 1 year.

                      I am assuming you can re-extract the same grafts 6 months later from the donor using Invitro, can you confirm?
                      I would go 4500 grafts Invitro + 500 grafts Denovo (merely to see if it works)

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                      • gc83uk
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1339

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Arashi
                        I would go 4500 grafts Invitro + 500 grafts Denovo (merely to see if it works)
                        Do you know if we can re extract the same grafts a year later? This might seem like an obvious question, but I don't think I've ever seen him claim unlimited donor.

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                        • didi
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1360

                          #27
                          I d go for invitro as I wouldn't want to risk any donor loss, it would take longer to complete journey but not much longer, 5000 grafts every 6 months , 1.5 years for 15 000grafts.


                          Sounds like science fiction

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                          • didi
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1360

                            #28
                            Claiming you can double hair with 100 regen rate is another way of saying that donor is unlimited

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Arashi
                              My prediction: Either he won't operate at all on Thane, or Thane disappears after surgery or he'll only do like 2k grafts.
                              It really doesn't matter at this point, Dr. Mwamba will be the one to look out for.

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                              • gc83uk
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1339

                                #30
                                Originally posted by didi
                                Claiming you can double hair with 100 regen rate is another way of saying that donor is unlimited
                                I'm not sure mate, I would definitely question that. Sometimes the most basic questions are forgotten/assumed.

                                I remember Nigam saying that he is able to convert NW6 to a NW2, but when pushed on this statement by other users at another forum, he confessed that he could only give the appearance of an NW2. I can find that statement for you if you haven't seen it.

                                So this is what got me thinking about why would you be limited to just the appearance of an NW2 and not even a proper NW2?

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