The IronMan Procedure – 9-Month Update

[c5000]

Arashi. Who did your transplant? Was it Gho or someone else?

[Arashi]

Arashi. Who did your transplant? Was it Gho or someone else?

Kristel did the punching of the recipient.

[didi]

Kristel did the punching of the recipient.

HASCIs standard practice is that Drs punch holes, techs insert grafts?
Isnt placing grafts more important?
Maybe they don't have good control and cant predict how the hair will grow, as in angle of hair

[FearTheLoss]

Arashi should be asking for a refund...those results are, subpar.

[didi]

Im sure hasci would give him 'free' grafts if he complained about hair being out of sync with the rest of hair but I d be asking for $$.
Plus theres nowhere near 2.5 grafts and his donor is better than average.

[NeedHairASAP]

does seem like a lackluster result....for arashi

I feel like my yield was better but my hairs too long to tell.

[garethbale]

Needhair

Didn't you get quite a good result with Gho? Was it you that said he'd filled in your hairline and you were pretty happy with the overall result?

[FearTheLoss]

Ironman, what are you going to do when another doctor shows solid proof of a high percentage of donor regeneration? or 100% donor regeneration?

yet Gho still hasn't proven anything..no one can deny the fact that Gho has been claiming 80% regen for years, yet he hasn't shown one case of a nw5-6 that's even as good as top fue/fut surgeons...that to me just screams fraud and I'm not going to keep kidding myself with Gho..

[Arashi]

Arashi should be asking for a refund...those results are, subpar.

I think that would be difficult. The difference in thickness (IF it's even there) is undetectable with the naked eye. That there are mostly just singles ? That's how HASCI functions. They never promise you anything regarding hairs/grafts and everybody by now knows HASCI does mainly singles. The angle of the hair ? This seems to be caused mainly by the fact that some hairs aren't fullgrown yet. A few months ago all hairs were like that. Now most of them have the right angle and I assume those that don't, will do so in 2-3 months too.

http://postimg.org/image/5gq7eg1sx/

Really, the only thing that I'm unhappy with is the fact that there are pretty much only just singles, but that goes for all HASCI patients.

[Arashi]

Also, I did an analysis of comparing my current situation to the day the scabs came of. I found that 98% of the grafts grew, so that's actually quite good. However, only 80% of the *hair* grew, which mainly was caused by the fact that transplanted doubles oftentimes grew as singles. Because, you know, HASCI just splits grafts. Combining these numbers with the max 37% regrowth I calculated earlier, still does leave a few percent for regrowth. But this could be explained by the fact that not all transected hair was implanted. So for example, they extracted a double, containing 2 hairs, but one was transected so I would see only a single in recipient while actually I should have counted a double. If that effect is taken into consideration, HASCI regrowth could easily be about 0%.

So in summary, the thin recipient is just caused by the fact that HASCI transplants mainly singles, NOT by the fact that grafts died (98% grew so far). So, I don't think I have a basis for complaints. In fact, Kruger from that Dutch forum complained that his recipient with HST was way thinner than with his previous FUE. Dr Gho just got angry at him and told everything was just fine.

[Arashi]

I just calculcated it: 1.2 hairs/graft. That's less than half of what you'd expect on average with a FUE. So that pretty much explains why I would need another 1600 grafts to get a decent coverage. And that's exactly what Gho told Kruger to do when he complained about his thin recipient: get another HST But needless to say I'm not interested at all in HASCI anymore.

Going to eagerly follow what Mwamba is going to do. And if he's finished running his tests and has concluded that everything works as Nigams promises us, then I'll be one of his first patients for sure. I think I'd do a smaller case, maybe 600 grafts but implant everything into recipient. The main reason would be to document everything and do an analysis to find out if it really works.

[didi]

1.2 hair per graft, that's pathetic figure. 13 000 graft patient in reality had less than 7 000 grafts and it took him 7 years.
Now I see, small sessions/9 months waiting period are nothing but smoke and mirrors techniques used by HASCI to make it look more real, with splitting one could easily have 3 000-5000 session over a few days.
I bet most patients don't come back due to thin recipient, imagine high NWs who need 20 000 hst grafts would be disappointed after 1st session grows out.
Gho preservative medium was myth, Dr Nigam was right about it. Now you see why he didn't allow any doc nowhere near HST.
Sad thing is that he conned 1000s of patients and is getting away with it.



Anyway,Dr Mwamba sounds very positive about the doubling thing, soon will find out.

[Arashi]

Sad thing is that he conned 1000s of patients and is getting away with it.

And if it wasn't for all the help that GC's been, we still wouldn't know ... At least now people know and can make a better decision. If anyone still wants to go to HASCI, they now at least know that there's a good chance there's no regrowth and that their recipient is going to be thin.

I think the wise thing to do is to wait and see what Mwamba comes up with. And who knows, maybe we hear something from Mousseigne soon too ..

[534623]

I think the wise thing to do is to wait and see what Mwamba comes up with...

With 30% regeneration - in the recipient. Best case.

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