It 's over. Dr. Mwamba confirmed Nigam!

[NeedHairASAP]

I think the best way to prove donor regeneration is not to cherrypick grafts. Just select an area and remove ALL grafts there. Patient needs to be confident it works though

Nigam never said he could get 100% regrowth when taking all the hairs out of one region. We all know that that increases the chance of scaring, ruins healing time, and definitely makes regeneration harder.

I'm not sure by "select area" what you mean...

[Dan26]

I think the best way to prove donor regeneration is not to cherrypick grafts. Just select an area and remove ALL grafts there. Patient needs to be confident it works though

Yes this idea is best

[idontwant2bebalding]

Dr nigam will attempt to turn this NW8 into NW1....cant get better then this...King Thane

http://www.drnigams.net/images/Thane/thane1.JPG

http://www.drnigams.net/images/Thane/thane2.JPG

http://www.drnigams.net/images/Thane/thane3.JPG

http://www.drnigams.net/images/Thane/thane4.JPG

http://www.drnigams.net/images/Thane/thane5.JPG

http://www.drnigams.net/images/Thane/thane6.JPG

Those are some good quality pictures!

[hiilikeyourbeard]

not gonna lie, when i saw the new interview with the dr last night, hitting play i thought he was going to say nigam was a fraud. i about started crying, pretty happy. exciting times you guys. if this plays out the way i think it will we are cured through surgery. hopefully this will scare the **** out of follica and get them going faster

[Arashi]

Exactly, with donor doubling of 90%+ regeneration theres is absolutely nothing to worry about donor area, it will grow back anyway within 6 months or so.


I wouldn't use denovo as loss in donor is 40%. Go for normal invitro.

Im curious what Nigam thinks

I think the best way to prove donor regeneration is not to cherrypick grafts. Just select an area and remove ALL grafts there. Patient needs to be confident it works though

[didi]

Exactly, with donor doubling of 90%+ regeneration theres is absolutely nothing to worry about donor area, it will grow back anyway within 6 months or so.


I wouldn't use denovo as loss in donor is 40%. Go for normal invitro.

Im curious what Nigam thinks

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

that would be a week long operation :O

[Arashi]

Guys,

Forget about FUE , Thane is 60 yo and he wont experience further hair loss, ALL his horseshoe area is donor and it can be transplanted.
Don't worry about permanent/non permanent area, I bet hairs from non permanent area will last longer than him.

Assuming he got 15 000 FUs in horseshoe, in 1st session take 5 000-7 000 grafts invitro, 100% yield and 100% regeneration.NO LOSS in donor.

4 months later- repeat the process and keep repeating till Thane reaches desired density

Actually he doesnt need 70 grafts/cm2, 50-55g/cm2 would be good enough, that's still 15 000 grafts required.


I cant see nothing wrong with this plan and is doable unless donor doubling doesn't work the way Nigam claims?

With traditional FUE they cherrypick grafts to make sure that the donor still looks ok after the grafts are gone. But if donor regeneration really happens, then there's no need to cherrypick. You can just remove ALL grafts in a certain area right ? So yeah, let's say he needs two surgeries to get to 15k grafts in recipient, that would be 7500 per surgery so 3750 in donor per surgery. And when you just can remove ALL grafts, I'm sure he could at least do 4000 per surgery indeed, maybe even 5000 (so 10.000 in recipient per surgery).

[didi]

I doubt that's possible. But maybe Nigams can tell us something about this. Also would like to know how many grafts he thinks he can give this guy.

Guys,

Forget about FUE , Thane is 60 yo and he wont experience further hair loss, ALL his horseshoe area is donor and it can be transplanted.
Don't worry about permanent/non permanent area, I bet hairs from non permanent area will last longer than him.

Assuming he got 15 000 FUs in horseshoe, in 1st session take 5 000-7 000 grafts invitro, 100% yield and 100% regeneration.NO LOSS in donor.

4 months later- repeat the process and keep repeating till Thane reaches desired density

Actually he doesnt need 70 grafts/cm2, 50-55g/cm2 would be good enough, that's still 15 000 grafts required.


I cant see nothing wrong with this plan and is doable unless donor doubling doesn't work the way Nigam claims?

[Arashi]

in the second operation why not use this denovo technique harvesting from recipient too?it will be 6000 grafts x3=18000 and the donor and previous recipient intact

I doubt that's possible. But maybe Nigams can tell us something about this. Also would like to know how many grafts he thinks he can give this guy.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

in the second operation why not use this denovo technique harvesting from recipient too?it will be 6000 grafts x3=18000 and the donor and previous recipient intact

Yeah I think they should be able to get about 2000 grafts in one surgery. Then they could implant 4000 into recipient and donor should look untouched. If everything is documented correctly, it shouldn't be too hard to see if it works just by analysing this surgery. And would be even better if he could repeat it and hence get 8000 grafts in total.

[Arashi]

Didi maybe we're wrong. As the saying Arashi have to go easy on speculation.

Thane has not donor. It will have around 2000 grafts FUE stop. If nigam ago the de novo, they become - at best - in 6000 and 1400 recipient donor. Afterwards, you should stop because the donor is too compromised. Unless, splits any re-growth in recipient.

In short, I see it hard. We have to ask Nigam, never says that every time the action plan because I think I do not even know him, how he wishes to act on exactly such a case.

Technique, the expected time for recovery (24-36 months), etc..

Yeah I think they should be able to get about 2000 grafts in one surgery. Then they could implant 4000 into recipient and donor should look untouched. If everything is documented correctly, it shouldn't be too hard to see if it works just by analysing this surgery. And would be even better if he could repeat it and hence get 8000 grafts in total.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

maybe extract a hair and cut it in 10? and boost it with all these to make all parts survive? that would be awesome

[One]

Regular FUE 2000-3000 MAX but nigam can do 2 x 5000 DeNOVO, that's 20 000 grafts in recipient and loss of 4 000 in donor, no scars.

He can have 20 000 grafts in next 6 months.

Didi maybe we're wrong. As the saying Arashi have to go easy on speculation.

Thane has not donor. It will have around 2000 grafts FUE stop. If nigam ago the de novo, they become - at best - in 6000 and 1400 recipient donor. Afterwards, you should stop because the donor is too compromised. Unless, splits any re-growth in recipient.

In short, I see it hard. We have to ask Nigam, never says that every time the action plan because I think I do not even know him, how he wishes to act on exactly such a case.

Technique, the expected time for recovery (24-36 months), etc..

[didi]

Regular FUE 2000-3000 MAX but nigam can do 2 x 5000 DeNOVO, that's 20 000 grafts in recipient and loss of 4 000 in donor, no scars.

He can have 20 000 grafts in next 6 months.