It 's over. Dr. Mwamba confirmed Nigam!

[deuce]

Why cannot they multiple hair on top of the scalp?

[didi]

Dr nigam will attempt to turn this NW8 into NW1....cant get better then this...King Thane

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[hellouser]

I wouldn't see a problem with that.

I think something like a 25 graft procedure would be a sufficient enough test, and you'd probably have no problems covering that up.

For 25 - 50 grafts I think I'm game. Its basically less than 1cm squared as normal density of hair is between 60-90 grafts per 1cm squared. The back of my head isn't overly dense, just normal, but I think I could manage quite easily. I still think it'd be better to have someone who's closer to Dr. Mwamba or Dr. Nigam, although I think having anyone in India will pretty much require any one of us flying out there anyway. I just hope whoever is doing it knows how to use a camera!

[greatjob!]

Holy shit 8 pages here today!! Looks like no one in bald truth land got any work done today!!

Really good to see Spencer weigh in, and it is really good to hear some good news, I had one shitty ass day today.

However I think everyone should remain cautiously optimistic, this thread is starting to remind me of the Replicel thread and Replicel stock buying thread.

I still don't understand how Dr. Mwamba saw great results, but Dr. Nigam is still unable to post one single credible result for us to view.

[JJJJrS]

Suppose I went in for 50 grafts, would it not be possible to continually shave down a strip of skin underneath existing hair that would basically cover up the donor area?

I wouldn't see a problem with that.

I think something like a 25 graft procedure would be a sufficient enough test, and you'd probably have no problems covering that up.

[hellouser]

You'd only really need to shave the very small areas that are being monitored. The whole point is to count the hair follicles and in particular, the number of hairs in each follicular unit. That may be impossible if the hairs are too long.

Suppose I went in for 50 grafts, would it not be possible to continually shave down a strip of skin underneath existing hair that would basically cover up the donor area?

[JJJJrS]

For a 30-50 graft test, would we really need to have someone shave down all the time?

You'd only really need to shave the very small areas that are being monitored. The whole point is to count the hair follicles and in particular, the number of hairs in each follicular unit. That may be impossible if the hairs are too long.

[deuce]

I guess this is a big deal. You still need surgeries though. I will be excitited when they can grow or multiply hair on top of the scalp. Congrats to thos who are excited for this though.

[hellouser]

I'm fine with either Nigam or Mwamba doing it.

If I were to test any procedure though, it would be the "de-novo" one. If I understand things correctly, "de-novo" is the same as the "in-vitro" procedure with both bisected follicles going into the recipient, and the addition of ECM/growth factor/cell injections to restore the donor. It's the most exciting and complete procedure, so we may as well test that one.

In terms of the test patient, he should have a totally slick bald area to monitor the recipient growth. The Thane guy Dr. Nigam posted on HS would be perfect but I'd rather save him for the NW7-NW2 conversion test. In this case, a forum poster who we can trust would be ideal.

For a 30-50 graft test, would we really need to have someone shave down all the time?

[JJJJrS]

We have 2 choices :
Test can be done either at Nigams in Mumbai or by Mwambas in Belgium. Even 30 grafts would be more than enough to prove it.

I don't think they would charge for test, it would be free, (after all its for their own benefit too) but where to find suitable guy who is willing to do it?

I'm fine with either Nigam or Mwamba doing it.

If I were to test any procedure though, it would be the "de-novo" one. If I understand things correctly, "de-novo" is the same as the "in-vitro" procedure with both bisected follicles going into the recipient, and the addition of ECM/growth factor/cell injections to restore the donor. It's the most exciting and complete procedure, so we may as well test that one.

In terms of the test patient, he should have a totally slick bald area to monitor the recipient growth. The Thane guy Dr. Nigam posted on HS would be perfect but I'd rather save him for the NW7-NW2 conversion test. In this case, a forum poster who we can trust would be ideal.

[didi]

We have 2 choices :
Test can be done either at Nigams in Mumbai or by Mwambas in Belgium. Even 30 grafts would be more than enough to prove it.

I don't think they would charge for test, it would be free, (after all its for their own benefit too) but where to find suitable guy who is willing to do it?

[JJJJrS]

Mwamba can take 25 bottom parts and 25 top parts of graft and implant it in recipient and do the same in donor.

In that case no need to monitor donor.

I'd be willing to chip in for that test. You only have to monitor one side really (unless he's doing the de-novo procedure...). Extract 25-50 grafts, take photos of the bisected grafts, and implant them into a slick bald area.

If everybody agrees to this, particularly Dr. Nigam, I'll write a detailed set of instructions for the procedure, as I did for the HASCI 50 grafts tests. I'll also analyse the photos, provided they are of sufficient quality.

[JJJJrS]

Just finished listening to the interview. Very interesting stuff. Dr. Mwamba appears to have a fair deal of belief in Dr. Nigam's work which is nice to hear. It seems that Tom and some of Dr. Nigam's other patients had no visible scarring and some growth in the recipient which is a positive sign.

I also have to commend Dr. Nigam for his openness. Unlike HASCI who avoids communication with their colleagues, even former patients, Dr. Nigam is inviting scrutiny from experts and sharing his findings with the community. Nothing is being left in the dark and within a short time, we will know how well this will work.

Until I see real tangible proof, I'll continue to remain cautious. But you can't help but feel excited when you hear talk of 3-hairs from 1 and doubling becoming a new gold standard in the industry. I really hope this pans out, because it would effectively be a cure for hairloss.

[Arashi]

I've just listened to the interview. Have to say it's really encouraging!

Yeah I loved the interview. But then again, they said nothing new and it's all just speculation from Mwamba at this point. Well it's not even speculation cause he says he just doesn't know it works. But he's going to find out.

[gc83uk]

Well Nigams always said people would have to go to India for it. He even said so just this week.

Yep, this is what confused me.