It 's over. Dr. Mwamba confirmed Nigam!

[Arashi]

Arashi,

SCIENTIFIC ADVISORS,
TO

1)Share each others, experience with cellular hair regeneration studies they did.

2)Work as a team to develop different protocols..which could improve on our present HM and doubling techniques.

3)Exchange ideas,thoughts... on mails,skype..and once in 6 months visit to each others facility...and meetings on the sidelines of stemcell conferences..

Initially i wish to appoint them as consultants...against compensation...to interact with me and my biotech team.

It just sounds too good to be true. I doubt they are really interested in sharing all their knowledge, even for a (relatively small) compensation. But who knows. I appreciate your efforts here. All the best and good luck !!

[drnigams]

Arashi,

SCIENTIFIC ADVISORS,
TO

1)Share each others, experience with cellular hair regeneration studies they did.

2)Work as a team to develop different protocols..which could improve on our present HM and doubling techniques.

3)Exchange ideas,thoughts... on mails,skype..and once in 6 months visit to each others facility...and meetings on the sidelines of stemcell conferences..

Initially i wish to appoint them as consultants...against compensation...to interact with me and my biotech team.

Your scientific biotech advisor ? What does that mean ? Are you erecting a company with them in it ? Are they becoming owners ? Or are they on your payroll ? Or are you just trying to get them to exchange information ?

[Artha]

Its very nice to see that some doctors are really into it and try to find a cure for this cosmetic but yet embarrassing disorder. I wish you all the luck you need Mr.Nigam for your research!

[Arashi]

In next 2 months, I will appoint Dr.Gerd, Dr.Rajesh(from Cotsarelis team), one from Tsuji Lab Team and one from Jahoda Uk University and one from Yale University as our scientific biotech advisor.

Your scientific biotech advisor ? What does that mean ? Are you erecting a company with them in it ? Are they becoming owners ? Or are they on your payroll ? Or are you just trying to get them to exchange information ?

[LMS]

Didi,
Let me try to explain different doubling techniques from patients perspective.

In-Vitro doubling - Extraction from donor is like FUE.

The lower part of the follicle is with the root, so not much problem for regeneration as the root is intact and implanted like an FUE.

The other bisected part also carries with it dermal cup sheath, matrix and hair germ cells with it, hence have a higher chance of regenerating as the dermal cup sheath cells are the pro-genitor to form dermal papilla. (proven by many independent studies).

As hair transplant industry is newer in India compared to West, 90% patients are only exposed to the word Hair Transplant. FUE is thought to be new and advanced procedure here.

The concept of donor saving or donor regen, is not even known to mostof the doctors here or in many places across the globe,
how can we accept the normal non medical patients to understand, what is donor doubling or hair multiplication.

Not many patients, across the globe are as passionate and analytical like you,gc,arashi,jjjr,hellouser,boldy,roger,freddie,c addarick etc.

I consider you all as much more knowledgeable than many doctors..you cannot accept , non forum patients to understand the technical jargon..

Many patents think invivo is safer,as the lower part of the follicle is still attached to the dermis with it's blood supply intact..
hence some may think, no harm with trying new technique...because they enroll with their gut feeling...

Others think,
by extracting out, most of the graft like fue..as in de-novo.. is also safe...since like fue ,recipient will grow back(as we take most of the intact graft in de novo doubling like fue...
(in denovo doubling we regenerate donor with multiplied stemcells,growth factors and 2d/3d dp culture cells,as the donor is non aga scalp..and have good density even around extracted grafts).

Few patients cannot take megasessions..which requires long hours at the clinic .. for few days..when they get tired,and have to be, away from work for a week, due to redness,confidentiality, specially from their girl friends, etc.

When you will sit with me ,one day at my clinic,while i consult.. you will realize,a lot of patients are afraid of any invasive procedure(including fue),they do not like density of traditional transplants...they would prefer to take HM injections..and give a chance if they respond..

Regards Dr.Bhatti, after you mentioned that you have mailed him about me, I called him up, I am going to Delhi on 21st and 22nd September where I'll have a meeting with joint director, minister of health and FDA for setting up of world's first minimal regulation, pilot project in India for research on various diseases which has a potential to be cured by Stem Cells after I was invited for the same by our FDA commissioner to prepare a presentation for this pilot project when India's leading research companies of stem cells for various diseases was invited by our FDA commissioner last month (Tom and Boldy are aware of this pilot project and my meetings with FDA commissioner). I was invited to represent hair regenerative research company from the hair regenerative category. FDA commissioner and ministry of health were more interested in finding solutions for non-cosmetic diseases, giving grants for the same, land and infrastructure for the same, utilising existing government, universities, faculty, laboratories of biotech but I am convincing them since hair follicle is easily accessible in non-invasive way, hair follicle biotech research should be equally promoted and also because 65
% of India's population is below 35, mpb when affects youth is itself a psychological syndrome which affects productivity. During my 21st and 22nd September visit to Delhi, Dr.Bhatti is also visiting Delhi, we have spoken on phone, we might meet if we get time.
Frankly speaking, I am not planning to share my technique in India with anyone but only outside India. Few doctors are already ganging against me in India to stop me from moving ahead in developing newer techniques which are already game-changer in India. The two top FUT doctors in India, 2 years back are hardly doing 4-5 cases a month now, one of them is a friend of Dr.Bhatti in Mumbai.
My plan is to have a successful Mwamba-Nigam Doubling and HM clinic at Mumbai and Brussels, after that I am fully confident, leading and optimistic surgeons from major cities across the globe will come to us for joint ventures clinic of doubling and HM.
In next 2 months, I will appoint Dr.Gerd, Dr.Rajesh(from Cotsarelis team), one from Tsuji Lab Team and one from Jahoda Uk University and one from Yale University as our scientific biotech advisor. Hopefully, Europe and US will have doubling clinic by 2014 in joint venture with the local top-notch surgeons. Due to regulatory issues, Mumbai will remain for some years the destination to get HM and DP injections to support doubling after 6 weeks of doubling.
I will post Mumbai Biotech Pilot Project which will be submitted by me and FDA commissioner to the health minister of India tomorrow. I will post the email of health minister of India and the other dignitaries who will play the major role to clear this pilot project so that the top biotech companies of the world researching on stem cells can come and set-up their labs in India for research on various diseases the mankind is suffering from. I will need support from you all by mailing these decision makers in India by telling them and highlighting them, how this can speed up the cure for various diseases across the globe. This is my dream project as a proffessional doctor.

Regards,
Dr.Nigam

[greatjob!]

Im dead serious I would want to put 10.000 EUR on it, put it on an escrow account at a notary and run that bet.

How about you just give me 10,000 eur and pretend that you made the bet, help a broke ass grad student out lol

[didi]

"Im dead serious I would want to put 10.000 EUR on it, put it on an escrow account at a notary and run that bet."


Wonder if Gho himself would be willing to take the other side of bet? All he needs to do is to transplant 20 grafts and if 40 grows he collects the money.

but even if you put $1 mil he would not do it...isn't that bizarre?

[JJJJrS]

Don't want to hijack the discussion though. We've had enough discussions about HASCI .


From what I heard, the Bald Truth is supposed to post an interview with Dr. Mwamba in the next week or so, where he will discuss his meeting with Dr. Nigam. From what I can gather, it seems that he believes there may be something to Dr. Nigam's claims. Apparently he's going to run some further trails to see how it goes.

[JJJJrS]

We're seeing something like a 1:1 ratio of successful to failed extractions in practice for HST procedures, and this is taking into account multiple 50 graft test procedures, where the extraction process should be much more careful! So if we assume that these transections will regrow, that's 50% of the accounted donor regeneration... So take these donor regeneration numbers you're seeing and subtract approx. 50%. Now this doesn't take into consideration graft splitting either, and we absolutely know that is happening on a mass scale from the petri dish photos. No recipient yield to tie things together as well. I would be shocked if there was any donor regeneration at all.

The funny thing is, if HASCI really believed in their procedure, all they would need to show is a simple 20-50 graft test procedure to prove things. You show something like that on the forums and business will explode. But interestingly enough they avoid the ultimate proof of concept like it's the plague. Too many things don't add up for HASCI.

[Arashi]

I am willing to bet $ 1000 that there is 0% donor regeneration with Ghos HST but to be safe Im gonna say less than 5%(who knows maybe he can few hairs regenerated by chance).


The best way to do it is to get Gho to do 20 graft test - ALL triplets!!!!

Ironman needs only 6% regrowth to win the bet!!! That is 1 full FU growing.

I want to see 20 trips growing in recipient and 2 growing in donor, I set the bar so low.

and Im still confident im gonna win this...

I did an analysis for my recipient today. I compared the photo I made the day my scabs came off to a photo I made today. I saw about 20% less hair today as in that picture (mainly caused by the fact that transplanted 'doubles' grew as singles). That would still leave some room for regrowth, but I think this could be caused by the fact that quite a a lot of times the transected parted wasn't even implanted. So yeah, it could very well end up to be 0%. However Ironman is still claiming > 80% regrowth, so he sure should be willing to be that that it's at least half of what he's says it is ,right ? Im dead serious I would want to put 10.000 EUR on it, put it on an escrow account at a notary and run that bet.

[didi]

I am willing to bet $ 1000 that there is 0% donor regeneration with Ghos HST but to be safe Im gonna say less than 5%(who knows maybe he can few hairs regenerated by chance).


The best way to do it is to get Gho to do 20 graft test - ALL triplets!!!!

Ironman needs only 6% or more regrowth to win the bet!!! That is 1 full FU growing.

I want to see 20 trips growing in recipient and 2 growing in donor, I set the bar so low.

and Im still confident im gonna win this...

[Arashi]

What are the chances this is ALL true and that Dr Mwamba will confirm Nigam in next 12 months?


Lets make bets

It's funny you say this Didi. I was just thinking today, I would love to make a bet with Ironman about HASCI regrowth. Let's deposit 10k EUR each at a notary and if it turns out gc83uk had more than 40% regrowth, he wins. Otherwise the money is mine. Would LOVE to do just hat

[FearTheLoss]

Hi Fear' all I know is that it is upcoming.
Dr. Mwamba may be on to something after-all . Hang in their friends!!

Would be interesting to see, if this works, how pilofocus (with the better handling of grafts and scarless) could play into this procedure as well.

[didi]

What are the chances this is ALL true and that Dr Mwamba will confirm Nigam in next 12 months?


Lets make bets

[Artista]

Hi Fear' all I know is that it is upcoming.
Dr. Mwamba may be on to something after-all . Hang in their friends!!