Dr Nigam agrees to doubling slick NW6/NW7

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  • didi
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    Hi Boldy

    Nigam said there had been quite a bit of interest from HT docs in his technique. Do you think that this might be taken up by them soon. If it becomes the next advancement it would help if more are performing it


    You know was worries me with Nigams...despite of all his claims he never showed us a single good transplant yet, or not even decent FUe/fut transplant for that matter. If you just think about it and I mean think, you will see that something isnt quite right..

    he is positive, enthusiastic, willing to share and work with other scientists but he didnt deliver yet.... ..the fact that big guns such as aderans and others are giving up isnt encouriging either...multiplying hair is proving to be more difficult than we imagined.

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by Boldy
    My vision is whatever happens, the first cure will born in India, in nigams clinic probably.

    I saw him at IHRS, and he certainly seem to want to bring all knowledge, researchers together, which actually never happened in the PAST. all working for patents, and their own wallet..
    Hi Boldy

    Nigam said there had been quite a bit of interest from HT docs in his technique. Do you think that this might be taken up by them soon. If it becomes the next advancement it would help if more are performing it

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  • hiilikeyourbeard
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    say what you want about dr nigams, but his head is in the exact place that it should be to tackle hair loss. he actually cares about us sufferers and for that we all should thank him

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  • Kiwi
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    The submission deadline for presentations is about March in the year of the conference, so about 6 months before.

    That said, the ishrs conferences are a waste of time anyway, with their championing of outdated butcher techniques like FUT
    They are a waste of time now maybe. But here's hoping in coming years the majority of the speakers are less FUT surgeons and more scientists.

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  • Boldy
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    My vision is whatever happens, the first cure will born in India, in nigams clinic probably.

    I saw him at IHRS, and he certainly seem to want to bring all knowledge, researchers together, which actually never happened in the PAST. all working for patents, and their own wallet..

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  • sdsurfin
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    dr. nigam

    Thanks for that post doctor Nigam. Very informative. I think that most would agree that teamwork between hair researchers is the real way forward, and I'm very impressed by the frankly un-capitalistic and open spirited way that you are trying to get people to work together. I think that Asian cultures have a lot to teach the rest of the world, and I think that any solutions that truly help humanity will likely happen through a collaboration between your part of the world and the west.

    I'm not surprised that HT docs in the US are not the path to scientific innovation or a real solution. They are cosmetic surgeons out to make money, which is something that a lot of forum members seem to overlook. One question for you: Was pilofocus unimpressive even in terms of scarring? One thing that would certainly prevent me from getting a transplant is the white dots caused by FUE. It seems like we are painfully close to decoding the answer to cell based hair multiplication, but unless a good group of researchers really works together, I doubt the research will come to fruition while anyone reading these forums is alive. It would be wonderful to have a decent option while we are still young(ish), and your doubling technique at least sounds like a way to make hair transplants sufficiently helpful and effective.

    Another question: call me cynical but to me the answer is always in the funding. That being said, is there some way that you and Jahoda and others can work together to create new funding opportunities? I am guessing that there have to be some massively rich people in india who are concerned with hair loss, as it seems to be less acceptable in society than it is here. Can you somehow make a paid position for someone to tackle the business issues and find new private funding for a new team of collaborative research while you good researchers do what you need to do? Maybe jahoda and costarellis and others would be more willing to join forces if a new and substantial source of funding existed in asia, one that provided incentives for new teamwork. It seems like in this respect, some forum members could be of use, and I'm sure a more organized business entity that has the purpose of finding funds and garnering private support for baldness research is absolutely crucial. Most forum members are not scientists nor can they really help you figure out a cure. What they might be able to do is help with the business and development aspect of the problem.
    Why not set up a new clinic with new funding in a place like cyprus or the DR, and construct a new team of people that have worked with the different mavericks in hair research? that way the individual doctors can do their own thing but still oversee a group of scientists that they trust in a location that is more open to stem cell research. I'm sure that with the right connections, funding can be found for an all star international team of hair researchers who have studied under the best.


    Although the research is more advanced in the UK , japan, and india, america is certainly an enterprising place, and you might use your connections in this country to improve baldness research as a business and investment rather than look to doctors here to help innovate. just my two cents.

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  • drnigams
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    Didi,
    Chairman of fue research commitee,
    did ask me to give a short presentation on saturday,but after having a look at the whole presentation which i prepared on the spot in 30 minutes,
    advised me that 5/10 minutes would be too less to present...
    and i will lose my audience ... on such an exciting topic..

    And I decided after talking to mwamba,
    to present the same that is, various doubling techniques and scarless fue at orlando,ishrs ,live surgery workshop in april 2014.

    Well ....from forum members and patients point of view,
    the good news is many surgeons were quite excited about our doubling techniques and HM.
    Mwamba , may also start operating on patients at mumbai at my clinic with us..may be once a month,to take advantage of presence of lab at mumbai.

    Mwamaba and me..will finalize the protocol of different studies in next 15 days..for peer review presentations.

    Many of them had a look at tom's donor and recipient areas...and they spoke to mwamba too...about his mumbai visit...
    many of them are quite aware what is happening at the forums.

    Lot of them showed interest to visit mumbai and subsequently start donor doubling, in their city in future..

    i advised them to come and do small clinical studies with patch tests first... send their patients for patch test to me,observe the results ....

    and by the time results are out woth independent verification and peer reviewed, we will start franchising the doubling clinics, in mid 2014.

    Actually most of the HT docs .. are not biotechs or cell biologists.. hence the doubling and HM etc is little new to them.


    Dr Cole is a colourful, charishmatic personality...

    Yes ishrs is mostly about fut/fue..sharing each others case studies ,
    regards cutting edge...it was very dissapointing...industry is still just talking about storage media like atp,hypothermasol and discussing topics like prp and acell.
    I did mention that hair research section should be a part of the meeting.

    Spoke at length with washniek and jahoda..and did try to convince them..that the time has come to work together as a team. with the rest,
    and utilize places like india,malta,caymen island,dominic republic...with softer stemcell regulation to speed the research towards cure...

    Also thanked, jahoda openly in the auditorium,
    that it was his suggestions ,at hair research congress at edinburgh , which helped me improve on denovo doubling.

    He is a gem of a guy..very open,not greedy...he did refer me to christiano and said she is the one more aggressive... like me..i should meet her,will try to visit her lab...on 28th oct.as i will be at New York for few hours.

    Christiano is trying to find out the master gene regulator(like FL1A) in the dermal papilla...activating this gene is believed to trick the dp cells to follow follicle regen line rather than other cell lines after passages in culture.

    He did approve my idea of culturing the dp cells as 3d spheroids in PVA coated Polysterene tubes..rather than hanging drop method ..to improve efficiency.
    We did discuss ..the possibilty of shh activation to make dp cells retain trichogenicty in vitro cultures.

    jahoda..did say and talk about ,how a bisected follicle can, as on today atleast double hair....if not multiplication.

    Infact i was the one..who have been talking to him , to why not focus on atleast doubling ..
    before HM is mainstream in future...
    at least HM can help double the hair..
    and thus use of HM with ht will be the next practical step forward....

    With due respect to dr wesley,Pilofocus for me ...was not exciting.

    They were talking about the regen, secondary to use of acell..in the possible regen with pilofocus.

    Tom and boldy were also at the ishrs meet.
    Boldy will give you few more details...

    I am at LAS VEGAS..for one day holiday today.

    I love the innovation,quick decision making and enterprising spirit of americans.





    QUOTE=didi;154255]How come dr nigam isnt presenting his findings(doubling and HM), its more exciting than outdated strip and fue

    ISHRS meetings are waste of time[/QUOTE]

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by didi
    How come dr nigam isnt presenting his findings(doubling and HM), its more exciting than outdated strip and fue

    ISHRS meetings are waste of time
    The submission deadline for presentations is about March in the year of the conference, so about 6 months before.

    That said, the ishrs conferences are a waste of time anyway, with their championing of outdated butcher techniques like FUT

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  • didi
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    How come dr nigam isnt presenting his findings(doubling and HM), its more exciting than outdated strip and fue

    ISHRS meetings are waste of time

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
    Dr. Nigam taking forever, as usual.
    He's at the ishrs conference

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  • NeedHairASAP
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    Dr. Nigam taking forever, as usual.

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  • Kiwi
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    Originally posted by youngin
    Ewww. I don't want baby penis on my head.
    Don't be such a god botherer

    You can have science + hair. Or not.

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  • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
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    hopefully Dr will start this or next weekend?

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  • youngin
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    Originally posted by Ted
    Thanks for the update Arashi.
    Since it says "paper published on Tuesday" I thought it was something new.
    Ewww. I don't want baby penis on my head.

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  • happybalding
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    Guys, do you think the DUPA sufferers can also undergo this procedure if Dr. Nigam prove it works?

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