Dr Nigam agrees to doubling slick NW6/NW7

[didi]

Dr Mwamba on HRN

"I am with you Crafter ,
I mentioned one thing in my talk : sometimes , things are very simple and we , as expert in the field , we push our mind far away to get a solution. And it takes just the insight of a novice to point out to the right direction .

Now there is a long way to prove this concept ( which for me makes a lot of sense ) .We need hard work , dedication and clear protocols that will be presented to our peers .Their insight and knowledge may also ease or speed up research toward a solution for our patients "



Long way? I don't get it, either it works or it does not,

50 graft test can prove this easily? Am I missing something here

[Arashi]

he needs more than 15k to be nw1

15k would give him a sparse nw2-3 or an extremely (emphasis on extremely) sparse nw1... at like 20 per cm (rather than the needed 50-60)

He's got probably around 300 cm2 bald space on his head. So 15k grafts would give him 50 grafts/cm2 which is enough (at least at 2.5 hairs/graft). Usually the norm is that 30 graft/cm2 can give the illusion of a full head of hair and 50 per cm2 is passed the illusion stage at 2.5 hairs/graft of course.

[NeedHairASAP]

Well that's the whole idea. With traditional FUE he can't do much for this guy. But if his technique really works as advertised, nothing should stop him from giving this guy 15k grafts and making him a NW1.

he needs more than 15k to be nw1

15k would give him a sparse nw2-3 or an extremely (emphasis on extremely) sparse nw1... at like 20 per cm (rather than the needed 50-60)

[locke999]

In my opinion Thane should go for Invitro doubling instead of denovo, he simply cant afford to lose 40% of donor.

He can't afford 40%? He's almost completely bald, what does it matter if he loses anymore. On the other, if it works then he gets all his hair back.

[Arashi]

There is no way he can make thane nw1, maybe nw3.

Well that's the whole idea. With traditional FUE he can't do much for this guy. But if his technique really works as advertised, nothing should stop him from giving this guy 15k grafts and making him a NW1.

[NeedHairASAP]

There is no way he can make thane nw1, maybe nw3.

[didi]

In my opinion Thane should go for Invitro doubling instead of denovo, he simply cant afford to lose 40% of donor.

[JDW]

Excellent, thanks for the update

[gc83uk]

Is there an update with this, it was supposed to be underway last week.
Many thanks

Yes the patient is arriving next week. The patients name is Thane, he is the slickest baldest person on the planet. The minute we have more info it'll be posted here at TBT.

[JDW]

As recently discussed in another thread, I contacted Dr Nigam suggesting we should find an NW7 SLICK bald, someone local from Mumbai. Take the maximum amount of grafts from donor, 5000 was suggested. If it works the donor will regenerate in full.

Repeat as above 6 months later.

His response below:

Gaz,
This is what the steps would be:
1) By 15th of Sept. 2013, I will recruit 5 sleek bald NW6/ NW7 candidates, offer them free treatments, the candidates have to be living near my clinic and medically fit.

2) Why I am choosing 5 is that if 1 or 2 disappear, we will still have other cases to follow.

3) I'll be performing a combination of
a) In-vitro hair doubling
b) In-vivo hair doubling
c) De-novo doubling
on these volunteers.

4) I will try to extract maximum graft from the donor possible in these cases, approximately 4000-7000 grafts in first sessions of 3-5 days and repeat the same after approximate 6 months.

5) I will be providing you before pictures of the volunteers by 15th September. Then, on the day of the procedure, I will mail you the shaved pictures and everyday photos after the session with videos , also with the patient reading the newspaper to confirm the date of the procedure, also single shot video of the whole scalp. If any of the photos are not upto the mark, you have to immediately mail me the same so that I can retake the pictures. Rest all the steps will be followed as you mentioned in the mail.

6) Why 15th Sept :
a) Mwamba with his technicians and a test patient is coming with Tom on 1st week of September. I'll be occupied with them. I'll need some time to find and recruit the right volunteers.

Please, let the critics know:
1) That we should work together as you said in the mail. Do not isolate me separately, we are all on the same boat. I am one like you all with an advantage of being of a doctor with a clinic,
2) Have a biotech lab,
3) Located at only place in the world which is not yet passed any law on stem cell research and therapy I have accessed to major published studies in doubling by the top researchers in the world, in stem cell hair multiplication, 3D speroids and micro-follicle creation in the lab.

I can mail and visit few leading researchers in the world and their labs to rectify and improve to ultimately reach near to the cure.

But remember, we have only 1 or 2 years before Indian Parliament also passes law regulating stem-cell research and therapy.

Need to share lot of other things with you including few early result pics of sleek, bald NW6/7 on whom I have already done first session of doubling in my next mail.

Regards,
Dr.Nigam.

Is there an update with this, it was supposed to be underway last week.
Many thanks

[One]

News?

[HairBane]

Looking forward to see if he can pull it off. If his method is capable of this though, why hasn't he already done it? All we've got a pictures with awful lighting.

I'm excited because there's no faking this, it's do or die for the nigster

[bananana]

Health risks involved with cell therapy like HM are of course a lot higher. But just saying, either Nigams turned out to have really solved hairloss. In which case HM isn't that relevant anymore. Or he turned out to be a fraud. In which case he'll NEVER get HM up and running.

In either case, I wouldn't worry too much about what India might or might not do in 2 years.

Ok, we'll see soon enough. This indeed will make or break everything - Dr Nigam, if you're reading this - I believe in you - but please take this challenge seriously, this is it. The final test.

Veca, I know you're here, dont be mad at some posters here, join the discussion.

[Arashi]

HM is not as nearly invasive as doubling.
For us diffusers, HM is the way to go - IMHO.

I wish to see results/proof/improvements for both methods.

Health risks involved with cell therapy like HM are of course a lot higher. But just saying, either Nigams turned out to have really solved hairloss. In which case HM isn't that relevant anymore. Or he turned out to be a fraud. In which case he'll NEVER get HM up and running.

In either case, I wouldn't worry too much about what India might or might not do in 2 years.

[bananana]

If doubling works as Nigams says it does, we don't need HM anyway. He already succesfully cured hairloss in that case. And in case doubling does NOT work, who will ever believe Nigams again ?

HM is not nearly as invasive as doubling.
For us diffusers, HM is the way to go - IMHO.

I wish to see results/proof/improvements for both methods.