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  • Arashi
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 3888

    Originally posted by caddarik79
    Guyz please, confront them, it's nothing constructive here if you skip the final step of all your efforts.
    Arashi, send an e-mail, confront them with your knowledges of their technics and lies and fraud.
    Confront Deborah, Rolf, Gho himself... you have strong arguments.

    If you don't, I'll do anyway, by reporting this very thread and your conclusion.

    You killed HST reputation, great, now confront them and help the hair loss community for good.
    Why don't you do that? I don't get it!!!?

    You bash them all the time and so sure of yourself, do something with that, if you don't, it means you are a clown, I am sorry... but what a commitment of you by counting and comparing etc if it's just to cry on forums and call people fraud???!!!!

    You kill them here, kill them in real as well, show your guts, you trust your own little study... bring it somewhere helpfull, please!!!!

    You f*cking gave them 10.000 euros for 85% regen and demonstrated everyone that they fooled you and I and GC and everybody!!!!!!
    DO SOMETHING NOW instead of filling every threads with your BALD TRUTH!!! LOL

    Otherwise you are a clown, I repeat!!! it serves no purpose!
    I don't owe anybody nothing Caddarik. I just wanted to find out if HST worked, to be able to plan my own future treatments. I now finally know what I have to do. I was kind enough to share my research and now I HAVE to sue them ? I don't care what you think of me, I owe you nothing. Grow up. If your angry at HASCI, sue them yourself. I've been in a lawsuit once, sued somebody, it lasted 2 years in court and was extremely energy draining. Not going to to that again for a lousy 10k.

    And why would I want to contact them ? They most probably even aren't going to reply, like they do most of the time. They just stop replying if you ask them 'difficult' questions. Why would that be different this time ? I stopped asking them questions cause I never got any answers.

    What is it with people like you ? You give them one finger and they demand the whole hand. How immature and unthankful ! Grow up. Get your act together and create your own future. If you want to sue HASCI, then just do it already ! Stop depending on other for once and do something yourself ! You have all the info you need. I assume you have a brain. So what's stopping you ?

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    • caddarik79
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 495

      Originally posted by Arashi
      I don't owe anybody nothing Caddarik. I just wanted to find out if HST worked, to be able to plan my own future treatments. I now finally know what I have to do. I was kind enough to share my research and now I HAVE to sue them ? I don't care what you think of me, I owe you nothing. Grow up. If your angry at HASCI, sue them yourself. I've been in a lawsuit once, sued somebody, it lasted 2 years in court and was extremely energy draining. Not going to to that again for a lousy 10k.

      And why would I want to contact them ? They most probably even aren't going to reply, like they do most of the time. They just stop replying if you ask them 'difficult' questions. Why would that be different this time ? I stopped asking them questions cause I never got any answers.

      What is it with people like you ? You give them one finger and they demand the whole hand. How immature and unthankful ! Grow up. Get your act together and create your own future. If you want to sue HASCI, then just do it already ! Stop depending on other for once and do something yourself ! You have all the info you need. I assume you have a brain. So what's stopping you ?


      I think you don't realise how repetitive you are about bashing Gho, that's why I invite your to do something concrete.
      it's not out of immaturity, it's just that you claim as much as they do!!!
      They run a business out of their claims, you do nothing but obsessively repeat that they are not legit.

      If you do it for yourself, say it once or twice and then shut the hell off.

      That's my point!!!

      Why shouting at everybody that Gho is fraud and do nothing!!!
      Make your conclusion, share it once, and then shut the f*ck up!

      OR

      do a favour to people, as your obession is to demonstrate it regenerates nothing!!! Go and confront them, defend it in front of the most concerned people, THEM... stop advertising your shit if it's to do nothing but showing your obessssive way of dealing with it!!!!

      WE KNOW that you will WAIT, WE KNOW that they LIE!!!! what's next?

      YOU influence other people by killing HST, you impact decisions of people going on this forum, because of course, they will not ignore your scurtinizing labour which I admit was big job!!!! but DO something with it and stop being ridiculous repeating it neverendingly....

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        Originally posted by caddarik79
        I think you don't realise how repetitive you are about bashing Gho, that's why I invite your to do something concrete.
        it's not out of immaturity, it's just that you claim as much as they do!!!
        They run a business out of their claims, you do nothing but obsessively repeat that they are not legit.

        If you do it for yourself, say it once or twice and then shut the hell off.

        That's my point!!!

        Why shouting at everybody that Gho is fraud and do nothing!!!
        Make your conclusion, share it once, and then shut the f*ck up!
        You're crazy man. I'm not shouting at all. I shared my research. You can verify and check it. That's all. I don't care what you do with it. You obviously want to believe in lies. Then go ahead and ignore all the facts and plan your next appointment. Make yourself happy. But stop acting like some angry child who didn't get his lolly.

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          Originally posted by caddarik79
          I think you don't realise how repetitive you are about bashing Gho, that's why I invite your to do something concrete.
          it's not out of immaturity, it's just that you claim as much as they do!!!
          They run a business out of their claims, you do nothing but obsessively repeat that they are not legit.

          If you do it for yourself, say it once or twice and then shut the hell off.

          That's my point!!!

          Why shouting at everybody that Gho is fraud and do nothing!!!
          Make your conclusion, share it once, and then shut the f*ck up!

          OR

          do a favour to people, as your obession is to demonstrate it regenerates nothing!!! Go and confront them, defend it in front of the most concerned people, THEM... stop advertising your shit if it's to do nothing but showing your obessssive way of dealing with it!!!!

          WE KNOW that you will WAIT, WE KNOW that they LIE!!!! what's next?

          YOU influence other people by killing HST, you impact decisions of people going on this forum, because of course, they will not ignore your scurtinizing labour which I admit was big job!!!! but DO something with it and stop being ridiculous repeating it neverendingly....
          Really. Didn't you take your pills today ? What's with the attitude and agression ? It's amazing how angry people get when you just show them some facts. I think it's best for you to just ignore all the facts and live your dream. Cause you obviously can't handle reality.

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          • caddarik79
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 495

            Originally posted by Arashi
            You're crazy man. I'm not shouting at all. I shared my research. You can verify and check it. That's all. I don't care what you do with it. You obviously want to believe in lies. Then go ahead and ignore all the facts and plan your next appointment. Make yourself happy. But stop acting like some angry child who didn't get his lolly.



            lol, I think you don't measure how many times you have repeated your certitudes, your disappointment and stuff.
            In the beginning I was totally OK, I am willing to see constructive criticism... but man, read yourself, in every occasion your spit the same story!!!!

            WE GOT IT!!! and so what?
            do you have the impression your work helped people to leave the grey zone?
            seriously?

            it speculations!!!!

            and I was encouraging you to send an e-mail because I consider you are pretty well documented!!!

            Send it, on your name, with the same crystal clear conclusions you are everyday sharing here, and let see what they will reply to that!!!!

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            • Arashi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3888

              Originally posted by caddarik79
              lol, I think you don't measure how many times you have repeated your certitudes, your disappointment and stuff.
              In the beginning I was totally OK, I am willing to see constructive criticism... but man, read yourself, in every occasion your spit the same story!!!!

              WE GOT IT!!! and so what?
              do you have the impression your work helped people to leave the grey zone?
              seriously?

              it speculations!!!!

              and I was encouraging you to send an e-mail because I consider you are pretty well documented!!!

              Send it, on your name, with the same crystal clear conclusions you are everyday sharing here, and let see what they will reply to that!!!!
              How is it speculation ? Explain that to me ? and I'm not doing sh*t for little crybabies like you. I'm not your mummy. Wipe your own ass.

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              • caddarik79
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 495

                Originally posted by Arashi
                Really. Didn't you take your pills today ? What's with the attitude and agression ? It's amazing how angry people get when you just show them some facts. I think it's best for you to just ignore all the facts and live your dream. Cause you obviously can't handle reality.


                stop reacting like a little chicken, there is no agression here.

                You keep on sharing the same intervention all the time!!!
                Gho is a liar, never 85% regen, it's a lie, not even 10%... maybe even negative ratio, LOL!!

                then the same never ending fight with IM!!!

                If we want this category of the forum to evolve, we need you to put Gho and Rolf and Deborah in front of YOUR great work!!!

                I'm not trusting Gho anymore, thanks to your job!!!
                I am not either sure of your claims... this all shit created a grey zone!!!

                But be more constructive then speculating and convincing forum members with your own fog... go and confront them!!!

                What does it cost you if you are so sure and right?

                I'm not even asking you to fight with them... just show your last card, demonstration... don't sue them... but their reaction on your work will be ten times more eloquent than you repeating it 1289 times.

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  Originally posted by caddarik79
                  there is no agression here.
                  Just read back your own posts. You're not behaving normal.

                  I'm not trusting Gho anymore, thanks to your job!!!
                  I am not either sure of your claims... this all shit created a grey zone!!!
                  You seem not to understand it. All the info is in front of you. I released all my calculations. You can draw your own conclusion, can't you ? Don't take my word or any other's words. Think for yourself !

                  What does it cost you if you are so sure and right?

                  I'm not even asking you to fight with them... just show your last card, demonstration... don't sue them... but their reaction on your work will be ten times more eloquent than you repeating it 1289 times.
                  You come here with your agression and insults and try to bully me into doing stuff. Is that how you try to motivate people in life ? Cause I have news for you, generally that's not the best way to get people to do things ...

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                  • didi
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1360

                    I think Spencer should email or phone dr Gho and confront him with all these findings.

                    Give him chance to do proper 50 graft test(which I know Gho will refuse) and distance himself and TBT from Gho.

                    Spence was generous enough to let the conversation roll but now that we know its all smoke and mirrors I suggest he kicks him out of forum, remember letin him be here it gives him some credibility....people pay shitloads of money for something which is deliberately misrepresented

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                    • caddarik79
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 495

                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      How is it speculation ? Explain that to me ? and I'm not doing sh*t for little crybabies like you. I'm not your mummy. Wipe your own ass.

                      I can wipe your face if you want? we don't live far to each other... do you want to meet to count my grafts?


                      Please don't deny that you have a sort of Alzheimer syndrom, you f*ckin repeat the same things...
                      do something with your great job!!!

                      My position was to wait until GC has its 5 HST and see a clear pic of his donor... and meanwhile I was not planning to think anything about that or to make an opinion!!!!

                      It's a one year to wait...

                      I've asked and confront them to some very direct questions... I received other verions than what you sell here.
                      They said it's NO WAY splitting, that it is not very limited, blabla..

                      I agree some things are wrong, we can not see the pics of a 13.000 grafts patient, what a coincidence?!!!

                      I just find you not very doing anything with your little homemade study!!!
                      we never come to a clear conclusion!!!

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        Originally posted by caddarik79
                        I can wipe your face if you want? we don't live far to each other... do you want to meet to count my grafts?

                        Please don't deny that you have a sort of Alzheimer syndrom, you f*ckin repeat the same things...
                        do something with your great job!!!

                        My position was to wait until GC has its 5 HST and see a clear pic of his donor... and meanwhile I was not planning to think anything about that or to make an opinion!!!!

                        It's a one year to wait...

                        I've asked and confront them to some very direct questions... I received other verions than what you sell here.
                        They said it's NO WAY splitting, that it is not very limited, blabla..

                        I agree some things are wrong, we can not see the pics of a 13.000 grafts patient, what a coincidence?!!!

                        I just find you not very doing anything with your little homemade study!!!
                        we never come to a clear conclusion!!!
                        And this is no agression ? You have a serious anger problem. Deal with that. And the way you kept flipping up and down yesterday was not normal too. You seem bipolar. You have issue's. And I'm done with you.

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                        • caddarik79
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 495

                          Originally posted by Arashi
                          Just read back your own posts. You're not behaving normal.



                          You seem not to understand it. All the info is in front of you. I released all my calculations. You can draw your own conclusion, can't you ? Don't take my word or any other's words. Think for yourself !



                          You come here with your agression and insults and try to bully me into doing stuff. Is that how you try to motivate people in life ? Cause I have news for you, generally that's not the best way to get people to do things ...




                          You just ignored numerous times my simple request!!!

                          Write a nice, polite email, with your study (that I don't know what to think about, sincerely), submit to your hasci contacts, your own conclusions and its relevance.

                          I'm not refusig your conclusions, I'm just saying you should now use them against HASCI and see what happens.

                          If they ignore you, it's eloquent... they will lose more and more credit.

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            Originally posted by caddarik79
                            You just ignored numerous times my simple request!!!

                            Write a nice, polite email, with your study (that I don't know what to think about, sincerely), submit to your hasci contacts, your own conclusions and its relevance.

                            I'm not refusig your conclusions, I'm just saying you should now use them against HASCI and see what happens.

                            If they ignore you, it's eloquent... they will lose more and more credit.
                            Bye Caddarik. Enjoy your day, 'buddy'.

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                            • didi
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1360

                              Guys Gho will never change, talking to their docs and techs is waste of time, Gho knows exactly what he is doing and now it all makes sense.

                              Snake oil salesman.


                              I would contact medical board in Netherlands or some sort of government consumer protection agency, its false advertising

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                              • caddarik79
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 495

                                Originally posted by Arashi
                                And this is no agression ? You have a serious anger problem. Deal with that. And the way you kept flipping up and down yesterday was not normal too. You seem bipolar. You have issue's. And I'm done with you.

                                lol, and you are totally mentaly healthy when keeping on playing cat and mouse with IM?

                                I'm not angry, I'm really doing fine.
                                It's just objectively annoying that you keep your knowledges to the masturbation level.

                                Read your post, you are very assertive and affirmative about Gho and HASCI fooling people.

                                Simple question, why don't you tell them in their face, but nicely?

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